Rock Versus smith

I usually dont give a shit about Hollywood drama and i guess this is no different but this will smith slap seems like bullshit to me… well the anger and the flare up may have been real and smith definitely swung but never connected. First off they look too far away from each other to connect. Chris never rubbed his cheek. Its instinctual to rub/touch the part of you that is hurt. Rocks mic was really close and it didn’t pick up any slap noise and that mic woulda launched that noise all through the auditorium and finally this is Hollywood they would’ve lead with the most explicit photo they could find and the fact that there are NO images of smith connecting with rocks face makes me think he missed. Smith is a shitty actor, so I’m thinking the anger was real or smith just had the best acting moment of his life but all these reports of him hitting rock are wrong or hype. at least from my angle i cant see how he could have. Media would have smith’s hand smashed on rock’s face plastered everywhere. Stupid distracting shit

I haven’t seen the footage yet but have heard about it ad nauseum this morning…

Yeah it was all over the place. Until i see hand on face i think smith missed. But whatever. Nothing more demonstrates the gap between wealthy and everyone else more succinctly than that. None of us woulda been there and had we managed our way in we certainly woulda been tackled before w left our seat and if by some miracle we weren’t, we definitely woulda been perp walked after our assault. Fuck wealthy people

Everyone’s been trying to top janets wardrobe malfunction for years…good try guys!!

:joy: that was actually pretty funny. good one. I actually kinda wonder what Acid’s take on it is since he basically works among those folks…

I don’t know Will Smith. I haven’t worked with him either. A friend of mine did, however, and insists that he’s the nicest guy. And up until the other night, I would have believed that.

I watched it live on TV. Here in America, even our “live” shows are on a 7 second delay, so that should someone say a curse word, the booth can push a button and dump out of the feed, which is what we saw here. But I’ve seen the uncensored feed from Australia and Japan. He definitely got smacked and this was not a bit. Or a publicity stunt.

Will Smith has some shit going on. Pressure? Stress? It’s widely known that he has sensitivities when it comes to his marriage. If you didn’t know, they have an open relationship, and word is Jada very much takes advantage of that.

Chris didn’t defend himself because he probably thought it would be a gag. Until the slap landed. He didn’t touch his cheek because he was trying to maintain composure.

Will can keep his limp apologies. I don’t hate the guy, and I don’t think he should be canceled, but I’ve lost a lot of respect for him.

Oh, and for the people who think Chris is an asshole for making a joke about her hair, I lost my hair due to a genetic disorder, and I hear bald jokes all the time. Hell, I make them a lot myself. It’s not like he was making fun of a crippled kid or something.

#TeamRock on this one.

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Ive seen the Japanese feed and the Australia feed. Ive not heard any actual slap noise only the mic getting rubbed and i certainly havent seen any pics of smith’s hand making contact. You get the three versions on the tv and the net. #1 the whole video which is too fast to see anything or the post smack still or the pre smack still… if smith’s hand made contact where is that screen grab?

Im ashamed to say this has taken more of my time than it should have. I dont know or care who is in the right or the wrong. I guess im on the side of team stunt. I really think rock and smith cooked this up. Especially since both dudes are laughing right after it. And both guys $$ and popularity have risen.

I dont think rock maintaining composer has anything to do with the lack of nursing his “wound” thats just instinct. To do so. No nursing cause no contact.

Both these dudes are laughing

How do you not hear the slap here? Put on headphones. Chris is laughing because he thought it was going to be a gag. Will is laughing as he walks away because he’s happy with what he’s done.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUkOVDUd9qw

Anyone remember Jada’ s awful nu-metal band? God damn that shit was terrible…

I hear a thump like a fist hit him in the chest but i dont hear fingers on a face smack. A Smack sound is skin slapping and that aint skin slapping thats chris’ tuxedo moving over the mic.
Theres cameras all over that auditorium you telling me not one got him connecting with chris’ face? Pulease ! Chris aint pressing charges because multiple angles would show he didnt connect.

Kinda feel bad for will smith. Wife fuckin around on him with or without “consent” her name being in chris’ mouth is probably far less scandalous than the things that have been in her mouth while she is married to him. looking like a fool for her on stage…

No actual slapping sound, both dudes laughing, both dudes’ popularity/merchandise going through the roof. No charges pressed. No smith thrown out of the event by security on his way to the stage or even after the assault. I cant imagine the people running the event would not have control over every aspect of that event… having security on speed dial for just an incident… people are talking about the oscars like no other time in recent history… everybody wins. Smiths reputation takes a bit of a hit but he’d bounce back so lots to gain with minimal loss. I aint saying its a conspiracy. Im saying its advertising. Wheres the hand on face pic? Know whatta i mean jellybean?

I dont think anyone is happy after slapping/punching anyone. Not with any fight ive seen and ive been privy to a lot of fights. EVERYBODY’S adrenaline is up. theres no joy

Yeesh.

Why does everything have to be a fucking conspiracy these days? I guess that’s where we’re at as a society. I don’t get it.

Anyway, you asked for my take and I gave it.

Moving on. . .

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You’re right i did ask for your take and thank you for it. I aint mad at ya’ I just disagree and these are my reasons… if im wrong then im wrong whatev. I guess time will tell.

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So many people who likely just learned that Jada’s hair loss was natural and not just an edgy haircut are acting like Chris Rock is responsible for following her Instagram account daily like some teenager. I doubt he even knew of her alopecia, but regardless… they were tame, prime time ready jokes pre-approved by the producers, and possibly even written by them.

If Will was so offended and needed to restore his wife’s honor, his time on stage for his speech a few minutes later would have been perfect for that.

Watching a man get assaulted for doing his job with all of Hollywood in attendance, and the attacker receiving no reprimand and not even a minimal response from security, and then to see that attacker go up and play victim while all the witnesses cheered… it was bizarre to say the least, but also pretty disturbing.

I think a main problem with what went down on Sunday night is that Hollywood primarily gets its “morality” from Hollywood. If they’re told one week that they need to stand up for child abuse victims, they’re on their feet. Next week racial injustice or sexism, up again. At least in word and outward expression Hollywood will follow the marching orders of the month very consistently.

The Academy let a physical assault occur in front of literally everyone and then not only let the perpetrator remain for the show, but even celebrated him and let him paint himself as a victim.

They should have dealt with it IMMEDIATELY. Boom, security escorts him out and removes him for the rest of the show and police are called and handed the case accordingly. Hollywood is morally bankrupt. They’re not “evil”. They’re just empty. If this stuff was properly addressed right after it happened, it would not have become this weird murky thing now where people are actually afraid to condemn this for what it was.

I saw a headline today that the Academy is now planning an “emergency meeting” to discuss what should be done. Emergency meeting 4 days later. What an absolute embarrassment. These people should be ashamed of themselves.

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As ridiculous as I think this conspiracy theory is, I have to also admit that it’s not completely unreasonable for people to jump on it. And again, it’s solely because nothing was done to address the incident when it went down, so people remain confused and feel better telling themselves that it must just have been some planned performance.

Good thing we have this bullshit to distract from very real problems in the world…that being said I very much agree with what Gunnar says about Hollywood getting it’s morality from Hollywood…just a big self-perpetuating cesspool…fucking phonies… remember these are the same people who gave Roman Polanski a standing ovation when he won an Oscar…you know the guy who drugged and anally raped a 13 yr old girl and then fled the country…so yeah fuck Hollywood…

In the end at least for the very near future this will work out like a charm for Chris Rock…sold out tour for sure…some of the street prices for tickets made my head spin…a $50 tix was getting like $9,000 on the street…amazing…

Worked out financially tremendous for both of them. Whats odd to me, lately, aside of no actual still pic of the slap, and the laughter from both dudes, is it appeared smith is posing after the swing…

Everything in Hollywood is fake… why would this be real?

Yeah, shit sold out overnight and the resales immediately shot up 10 fold (or 100+ fold as it may be).
While I was kinda hoping he’d unload with both barrels last night, I can totally see why he’s chosen to hold back for now. His silence is classy, and also gives him way more maneuverability which will come in handy as we see things play out.

Watching Will Smith’s whole family in the wake of this shit was another eye-rolling story arc. His dumb kid tweets out “That’s how we do it!” the night of the incident, which to me seems like an enthusiastic endorsement of some dopey ass street justice that they think they are. And then a couple days later, Jada sends out some vapid selfie on Instagram or Twitter or whatever, with the phrase “This is the season for healing, and I’m here for it.” What an absolutely meaningless piece of self-important nonsense.

Oh, and to echo Acid’s disdain for anyone pretending that a joke about someone’s hair warrants someone’s psychotic rampage in kind (especially if you are a celebrity and taking public critique is part of your gig) let me go ahead and come out as someone who literally had alopecia areata. I lost all the hair on the back of my head (I would let the hair above it grow so it could hang down over the baldness to try and cover it) and I dealt with that shit between 6th and 8th grade. Yes, I got teased. Big fucking deal. I was 12 with no safety net and without Hollywood fawning over my courage or congratulating me on my so-called battle. It’s just hair (grew back and resumed to normal within 2 years), and I got over it and moved on with my life. If a grown ass woman and man can’t take a joke (which I don’t even think had anything to do with alopecia) then they really shouldn’t be public figures. Fuck their lame acting careers, fuck their rap careers, and especially fuck that lady’s dumb nu-metal horseshit.

Hey look,man…I understand your skepticism completely…I still haven’t completely ruled out it being fake myself…nothing coming out of Hollywood would ever shock me ever…but if it is a set up then they are really taking the joke to it’s extremes…I’m inclined to believe it is something that wasn’t scripted at this point but wouldn’t even flinch if I was proven wrong…seems like someone would have exposed this shit by now…if not it is some Andy Kaufman level shit and none of these people are as smart as Kaufman…

Yeah that whole family are just a bunch of deluded people who live in a bubble devoid of anything outside their little Hollywood circle of horse shit it seems…"healing"ugh…give me a fucking break…

Anyone can be ripped on for anything…grow some thicker skin and either learn to laugh at yourself,serve some back yourself or maybe step out of the public limelight if you can’t handle it…fucking sensitive vaginas…

And I’m glad someone else has brought up Jada’s nu-metal thing…I went back and watched a couple minutes of it and the cringe was off the charts…

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