Every once in a while Ministry (or related) will pop up somewhere I least expect it.
Tonight it was on my Charter cable music channel on the TV. I’ve only ever put this channel on like once or twice before, and it’s typically the standard “alternative” classics like old Oingo Boingo, Siouxsie and the Banshees, Morrissey, Nirvana, and whatnot.
But, right after “Big Country” came this surprise . . . .
I wonder if crediting it to “Nine Inch Nails/Al Jourgensen” was to avoid the semi-offensive name “1000 Homo DJs”…
I wonder if crediting it to “Nine Inch Nails/Al Jourgensen” was to avoid the semi-offensive name “1000 Homo DJs”…
I wasn’t sure what the deal is with that and was gonna open discussion. It really sounded like a different version than on the “Homo DJs” EP. And it says “Suck” on the bottom there. Did NIN have this track as a B-side or something.
I perked up immediately when it came on as it started with that same sample “… It’s fun to take a trip, put acid in your brain”.
The song was basically the same but the instrumental mix sounded a bit more raw and sparse while the vocals sounded less polished as well, to the point where I kind of wondered if someone else was singing this time. Part of it could’ve also been that I was listening to the track through my crappy TV speaker.
OK, I know what this is.
A bootleg NIN 12" came out in the '90s called Halo 00. One side was “Suck” live, the other was “Supernaut”. AFAIK though, it’s the same “Supernaut” that’s on the Black Box.
THANKS!!!
I knew one of you good folk would clear this up for me.
THANKS!!!
I knew one of you good folk would clear this up for me.
nin has a version of suck on their Broken EP. tis excellent. definitely better than the original.
“a thousand ways to make it true, i want to do terrible things to you” 
FASLE.
Gub is the best record ever.
Anyway.
Music Choice was literally how I discovered Ministry, and eventually, industrial/EBM/power electronics. So there you are.
Greatest Fits version trumps both of the '90 versions, though.
Music Choice was literally how I discovered Ministry, and eventually, industrial/EBM/power electronics. So there you are.
HAHA!!! That’s awesome! I only put it on because I was working and wanted some background noise but didn’t want to be distracted by an actual TV show. The only other time I tried listening to it was a few months back I tried the “Metal” channel but it was all Nu-Metal-Screamo bullcrap (Bullet for My Valentine, As I Lay Dying, etc.) and I got jaded after just a few tracks.
Greatest Fits version trumps both of the '90 versions, though.
I never bought “Greatest Fits”. Are you saying there’s another version of “Supernaut” on it? Is it just a different mix or is it a live version?
Yessah.
I think it was either “Thieves” or “N.W.O” that I heard on Music Choice that literally blew my mind.
“Wait - you mean there’s metal I can DANCE to???”
As for the version of “Supernaut” on Greatest Fits, yeah, it’s basically a rerecording in 2001 with no Trent and the same “put acid in your veins” intro. Dunno. I justy like it a lot more.
Greatest Fits version trumps both of the '90 versions, though.
Agreed! That is hands down the best version of this song!
That rougher mix of Supernaut and that aforementioned live version of Suck were also on a bootleg called Painful Convictions which I unfortunately lost. It was a two disc that had Purest Feeling, Suck (Live), Supernaut, a weird dance remix of Head Like A Hole, a rough mix of Wish, and a version of Down In It that had the intro to Terrible Lie at the end on the first disc. Second had a shit quality version of the Woodstock '94 show. That live version of Suck owns over the rest
I’m pretty sure every version of Supernaut has Trent on vocals. Al just distorted his vocals to fool the lawyers.
I’m pretty sure every version of Supernaut has Trent on vocals. Al just distorted his vocals to fool the lawyers.
definitely not imo. i hear a huge difference.
Every version i’ve heard sounds like Trent, just altered… I’ve heard two different versions. The Trent one and the one on Greatest Fits. The latter just sounds like they slowed down and lowered the pitch, that’s it. Maybe i’m wrong and deaf.
pretty sure the ‘put acid in your veins’ sample is different on the Greatest Fits version too.
Every version i’ve heard sounds like Trent, just altered… I’ve heard two different versions. The Trent one and the one on Greatest Fits. The latter just sounds like they slowed down and lowered the pitch, that’s it. Maybe i’m wrong and deaf.
I have 3 different versions - black box (Reznor vox), 1,000 Homo DJs (Distorted Reznor) and Greatest Fits (remixed with Al vox). I think that’s it.
I would just like to clarify, I’m pretty Al DID re record the vocals for the original 1000 homo dj’s 12" version of supernaught. I’m not sure where this rumor got started that he just “distorted” Trent to sound like him(Which frankly wasn’t really possible). I for one can clearly hear als accent in that version vs the black box TR version. I think the most likely scenario would be al re recorded the vocals, and maybe left some of the TR vox tracks in the background for support, but I CLEARLY hear al.
I would just like to clarify, I’m pretty Al DID re record the vocals for the original 1000 homo dj’s 12" version of supernaught. I’m not sure where this rumor got started that he just “distorted” Trent to sound like him(Which frankly wasn’t really possible). I for one can clearly hear als accent in that version vs the black box TR version. I think the most likely scenario would be al re recorded the vocals, and maybe left some of the TR vox tracks in the background for support, but I CLEARLY hear al.
i have all the CDs at home, i’ll check it out tonight.
actually…
i’ve just had a listen to mp3’s of the sidetracks version of supernaut and the greatest fits version and they are definitely different vocal takes. i’d put money on the different takes being different people, Al and Trent. If you listen to the ‘bother meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee’ bit, you can hear (distorted) trent (on sidetracks) ‘singing’, whereas Al just holds the note with the original (trent) vocal in the background on the greatest hits version. trent is more tuneful. there would be no need for Al to rerecord the vox for greatest fits if it was him originally.
edit - this is assuming the side tracks version is the ‘distorted trent’ version. i can’t remember if it’s supposed to be or not. maybe it was the clean trent vox version? in which case ignore the above!
haha.
I asked Al this years ago, and he basically said this:
“That would be me on the original, on WaxTrax! The later version released on TVT was Trent Reznor… then the remixed version had my vocals on it.”
The latter of which, was the 2001 Greatest Fits version.
And, I agree, the GF version is great.
@point of collapse, the greatest fits version is an entirely different version.
@jlw…you totally proved my point. The real question is, where did this silly rumor get started in the first place? I had the ins with wax trax back in the day and all this story unfold the opposite back in the day. Wax Trax had already made promo cassettes of the Trent version, couldn’t get the rights from TVT for TR, the official release on Wax Trax 12" vinyl had Al re recording the vocal which somehow got twisted into al distorting trents vocals to sound like him??? I mean really, if you listen to both, it’s pretty clear one is Al, one is Trent