Prong.org Compilation

Discussion
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Akbar if you want to step up and be the compiler then that would be great, otherwise everyone pm me with their project name, and how many tracks they want to contribute so we can at least get an idea of how big this is going to be. I will start editing the 1st post in this thread to reflect who is going to be involved, track titles ect…

Afra would have to okay this first if it is to be connected to the website (i.e. the download page). It also might depend on if there is one of us who has the time, and capabilities of mastering to finish the project off once everything is compiled. That is unless everyone agrees to keep it raw and simple.

This project will need an awesome name as well. Something along the lines of the tongue-in-cheek album titles Ministry comes up with, or just Truck Meat.

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i’m a tard… i read that post saying we need a theme and first thing I think of is like the monkees themesong… :sigh: being a jerry’s kid is tough sometimes

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i’m a tard… i read that post saying we need a theme and first thing I think of is like the monkees themesong… :sigh: being a jerry’s kid is tough sometimes

If the Piss Army can have a theme song why can’t we? [;)] Are they even around anymore?

voidhead mentioned recording snippets for inbetween the songs, that made me think of the Animal Liberation album, which could be a very cool thing.

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i’m down.

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I think Happy Dust should be the prongs.org/ministry theme song.

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Anybody that has not sent me a pm that wants to take a part in this please do so. It looks like this will end up being a double disc with all the contributors so far plus those who said they are interested. It seems to be coming together nicely.

Final submissions should be in a wav format.

Now we need a title and a general theme so the artwork can be worked on. Also anyone out there with graphic design experience/using CD templates please step up and help out.

While I am a painter I don’t do work in the digital realm so I am not that familiar with most of the programs out there. Anyone interested in submitting artwork/photos please feel free to do so here.

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2 discs
1 covers
1 originals

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So now we are supposed to cover Ministry songs? Way to be oh-so-cryptic.

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I don’t think we ever agreed on doing cover songs.
If we’re gonna do that we’re gonna need some time. I don’t have any Ministry covers just lying around.

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I think the general consensus so far is not to do Ministry cover songs. If we went that route it would put us into a gray area legally, and the last thing I want is for certain people to have a reason to harass Afra.

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There should be no style limitations.
Hard industrial or crooning like Bing Crosby, a wide range of styles will simply reflect the diversity of prongs.org.

I totally agree with rev-skarekroe on this… but we’d want some continuity on the disc. Perhaps, whoever is arranging the tracks, start off light, finish heavy… or sort of guitar based songs first, then industral sort of guitar songs, then the outright electronic stuff. There’s gotta be some sort of consistency.

I’d rather it be Ministry covers/“interpretations” if anything, because it would be much more of a challenge, especially for the noise/drone dudes.

I think the general consensus so far is not to do Ministry cover songs. If we went that route it would put us into a gray area legally, and the last thing I want is for certain people to have a reason to harass Afra.

This is so sad, but true. A risk we can’t really take. I have a few great ministry covers past piss army members contributed (like that buddard chap), but given the litigious path angie j’s been treading of late, it may be too much of a risk.

Then there’s the problem of copyright clearance, royalties…

I mean, that really comes into it depending on how professionally we wanna release it. If it was just a downloadable free digipack on the net, it might not be so bad…

Will this compilation be the best thing ever released to human ears? Will it be conceptually complex? Will it be a chart buster? No to all, but it could be a really cool document of this strange and bewildering beast we call Prongs! Sure, it could include Ministry covers for those who want to do that (just like Prongs includes threads about Ministry) but it could include lots of random oddness too, which is cool.

[quote]I definitely agree to this, which is why I think perhaps we should just leave this as a downloadable digital copy on the net with artwork attached and what not.

If we get it printed and whatever, we’ve gotta pay printing and formatting costs; not fun. Then we’ve gotta pay a distro, some arsehole who gets 90% of the money just for shipping it out to wherever. Nup. Rather would keep it a non-profit free for all.

Another thing to consider is mastering;
the last thing we want is a compilation where all the song levels are uneven. If anyone’s got access to protools, maybe dump each song as one track and just compress the level’s til they’re even. Primitive, but cheap and effective. It all depends on how much effort and time we want to put into this, but I believe the mastering is essential.

Also, I don’t think anyone should be able to contribute more than one song per-project. One each is enough.

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Evil brings up a lot of good points here. The compilation itself as of now is planned as a free downloadable 2-disc album with artwork. Nothing is concrete yet so I want you guys to give as much input as possible. Above all this is supposed to be a collaboration.

With space constraints I believe it should be one track per project just to be fair and give everyone who wants to contribute a chance. Many of us here have more than one project going, which is fine, submit one for each. If the space is there then another track could be used it just depends on how many contributors we end up having.

Once all the finished tracks have been submitted then comes deciding the order, leveling it right, the graphics and all that fun stuff.

In terms of the artwork I am thinking printable CD art, inlay, and tray graphics so you can make your own at home. Also it may be cool to embed artwork to each track pertaining to the artist i.e. photos/logos or something. Kind of what NIN did with The Slip, each track has its own artwork.

Icepick buddy, start painting [:)]

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Free downloadable comp seems the best to me. I have no interest whatsoever in trying to sell. Plus online and free means that covers wouldn’t present an issue. Thanks for putting the work into coordination, God knows I don’t have the patience!

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It’s almost useless to try and sell actual studio tracks these days, as long as the internet stays unregulated (which it should) downloading music legally or not will exist. With that being said, I love the ideas of being able to submit art with each track, but I think overall for the digital compilation there should just be one album picture and let’s please keep it perfect square, since that’s pretty much the standard for iTunes releases.

I also think one track is just enough for everyone, it’ll seem to unbalanced with every “band” having different amounts of tracks.

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i was actually thinking about the 1 track per project thing at work today, i’m glad it’s already been brought up.

That old Pa tribute DID have some really cool covers, i had one on there as well. as fun as it would be, i think the direction most of us seem to be thinking, which is a free online all originals comp, would be most prudent. as it was stated before, covers will have legal implications.

i also like the artwork per song thing, like those nin tacks.

and i can’t wait to see some of the comp cover submissions. oh, and hear the tracks too. this should be cool.

wouldn’t it be awesome if the prongs.org comp got to be known, and have a release every so often? kinda like that hippie comp Dick’s Pick’s if anyone if familiar with those.

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I didn’t know there was a Piss Army tribute.
Is it still available somewhere?

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maybe somebody could put up a page on myspace for this too w/some tracks. I donubt it’d bring alot of people here but we may attract a few new members…

also i’m not feeling the covers idea. Since prongs seems to be more or less an entity outside of the ministry camp, we just happen to talk about DSOTP from time to time and the homepage that links here is a fansite, I think it’s become more than JUST a band board.
But if you guys want to do covers why not go into some of the members’ side projects and work outside the band? I’d love to see a connely cover/remix/whatever done.

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we just happen to talk about DSOTP from time to time

Dark Side of the Poon? Now that’s hot…

Yeah I agree one song per project. Just to warn you guys this comp may feature a new one-time only side project. I don’t want to give anything away yet.

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I think ‘Dark Side of the Poon’ would be a great title for this comp.

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I think ‘Dark Side of the Poon’ would be a great title for this comp.

[:)] This is great, a title that came completely by accident. Its brilliant.

Any other suggestions?