Peligro arrested

Gunner telling us HE is what makes this board fun, and grumpy with his paranoia.

Who is paranoid? I ultimately don’t care how many sock puppet accounts he has but now that he’s outed I wanna know why and which is the real him. I think he’s a combo of all of them. I’m beginning to piece together the pieces though. I’m a target because teachers were mean to him in school [:(]. I have sympathy for the downtrodden and want to help. He comes from wealth and the downtrodden are to be ridiculed humiliated and exploited. Not sure what his hard on for gunnar is though. He’s funny and people like him. maybe he’s Jealous he’s not the popular kid? I don’t know. I’m sure it stems back to school though.

and yeah. I didn’t make a good show of myself with losing my shit and all the ‘fuckety fucking fucks of fucks’. I guess all I can say is I’ve been having a shit time of things lately and it hasn’t taken much to set me off.

we know, you told us you’re going through bereavement. You wanna talk about it?

Theory: Grmpy is Peligro et al.

That is a one man show only Evil Dildo is capable of pulling off. He is the Artiste among us. That would be some fucked up shit if it were me. I can’t really keep secrets though. so that angle is out.

Proof: He’s the only one that could tell. And the only one that gives a shit.

I only give a shit cause I’m curious as to his reasons for doing as much. You don’t give a shit cause he ignores you. Could you imagine if all his puppets were talking shit to you? you’d lose your mind. Look how snippy you are over something that barely concerns you. (only barely cause you barely post here.) you came out of hiding to share with us your displeasure with this thread… a thread. A thread that is not even about you. wow, you’re sensitive.

I’m 99.8% certain that Evil Dildo is using a fake name.
Who the fuck names their kid Evil anyway?

A family of Dildo’s apparently. Oh and the Knievels (sound wise anyway)

I don’t really see the problem with “Catfishing” myself (assuming the term is just being used generically for creation and management of different characters).

That’s what I thought he was doing at first, just character development as writing exercises but then he got so angry and fuckin mean. So I thought perhaps there was another reason. I think now he’s inadvertently told us everything, though.

I really thought it was some pretty brilliant theatre myself. This board is boring as shit if there isn’t some sort of drama going on. So whether it’s me playing rope-a-dope with Gerda, having a duke-out with Amlux, or some other silliness, it’s what makes the board fun.

I just want to go on record and say you’re a dick for thinking you make the board fun. Dick!

“Peligro’s” elaborate tales of engagement, chicks, massage parlors, lumber mills, depression, obscure record collecting with his “friends”, gay advancements, naked excercizing . . . . .

I was surprised when “Peligro’s” trial actually resulted in him cracking.

you and me both. He ain’t making that mistake again. He probably just keeps repeating my advice. “they’ll never really know! they’ll never really know!”

And via Peligro or whomever . . . . these “characters” I think were morally conscious enough to really only fuck with people who are more than happy to be fucked with. I don’t think you could find two people on the Internet more happy to be hated and have a reason to argue than Grumpy and myself.

Excellent point. So, I guess they weren’t that “mean”

Anyway, I think this thread is quite fascinating.
I skip through a lot of the stuff Grumpy posts as there’s just so much of it

Yeah but it’s an easy read.

And if we’re going to throw Dr. Phil psychology shit at each other, let me toss one back on Grumpy that you all can benefit from understanding.

Grumpy doesn’t really care about someone making fake accounts. He’s never been hurt by any of the characters’ words or anything. But Grumpy does very much like to WIN and to be RIGHT.

I prefer to be “RIGHT” not necessarily “win.” I don’t mind being wrong but I’m not wrong because anybody is crying because their opinions fall apart after 2 rounds of discussion. Also just because I question people on their beliefs doesn’t mean “I’m right” or insinuating anything. I asked Pon3 the other day why he didn’t like rogue one not because I wanted to tell him how bad his opinion was but because I truly wondered what his gripe was. I didnt think the story was hard to follow, he did and that’s ok. I did agree with him that the opening was a bit unnecessary. Whatever…

He was right about “Peligro” before and got his vindication after 7 years of being told he was a paranoid dick (even by me) and to just shut the fuck up.

I was right about Void being Baboon 3 as well. (I mean as long as we’re keeping score. and looks like Ice outed himself as Molepablano when he fucked up and said he was asked if he was australian when he never was. It was Molepablano that was asked that but whatever, The search could be doing me wrong and neither has posted enough or long enough for me to go out on that limb)

And now he “knows” he’s right again.
For anyone to discount him at the same level they discounted him before . . . . . . well, that’s just silly and flies in the face of reason.

Of course it is/does.

I eagerly await the continuance of this case . . .

I think it’s over. He’s basically tld us why he barbs as me as all his little socks… Not sure why he barbs at you though. So I guess there;s still that angle

… Not sure why he barbs at you though. So I guess there;s still that angle

I don’t know. I’ve never had anything personal with any of his characters. I’d crack some funnies or say why I thought Sunno))((()) or Merzbow was shit or why I hate Tool and that was usually enough to get 'em going.

I always thought Olsen was a little bastard (strength of a well-crafted character) but I had no beef with him. Peligro I always liked, actually.

And “Evil” can cry about me now if he wants to. I’ve never said anything bad about him. He’s always conducted himself as a gentleman and I actually really enjoy(ed) talking to him about his work and art over the years.

If he’s mad at me for not taking at face value that he’s not the master of puppets that Grumps is accusing him of . . . well, so be it.

As for PM’ing oneself over 7 years to support the legitimacy of a fake account . . . . . that’s not far fetched at all. I’ve literally done the exact same thing and I was not even 1/100th as invested.

If someone is clever enough and committed enough to create a salad bar of fake personas . . . . yeah, he’s likely also going to do the bare minimum to try and cover his ass.

I used to get PM’s from Peligro telling me about “what’s really going on” with Olsen . … . and I would get PM’s from Amlux telling me “yes, Peligro is a real guy, we just hung out the other day” . . . that type of shit.

I don’t remember which ones, if any, Evil vouched for at any time (aside from Peligro who he’s vouching for now). And I don’t really care enough to dig through any of this shit in my box.

And yes, as Grumpy had noted before . . . . every single one of the characters writes in exactly the same style.

Wait,this is a Ministry forum?

Wait,this is a Ministry forum?

Well, little feller, way back when electricity came from wells and we had to shoot our snack cakes out in the prairie . . . .

Peligro I always liked, actually.

Yeah but ever since he changed his plea to guilty at the trial hes been all over you like Amlux on the popular kids.

I used to get PM’s from Peligro telling me about “what’s really going on” with Olsen

Ha! I used to get those same PMs

I don’t remember which ones, if any, Evil vouched for at any time (aside from Peligro who he’s vouching for now). And I don’t really care enough to dig through any of this shit in my box.

Yeah, pretty sure hes always kept himself separate from the controversy of his socks

And yes, as Grumpy had noted before . . . . every single one of the characters writes in exactly the same style.

Heh, dildo even offered nudes like olsen used to all the time

[reply]Theory: Grmpy is Peligro et al.
Proof: He’s the only one that could tell. And the only one that gives a shit.

I got a good chuckle out of this one.[/reply]
Yeah, mq has never been a friend to the smrf. Not sure what he thinks i did to him but whatever. Im sure ill live.

Wait,this is a Ministry forum?

You gotta admit this thread is far more entertaining than many of the post barker albums. And if you dont think so, well, you know which thread to avoid.

I was sitting here shaking my head wondering what the hell your entire deal was, Nathan, but upon scrolling through some past messages, I came across one from you which was rather telling.

Now, we all know Gerda was an outright nutter. IIRC, you were batting to her defence and I paid you out for it. You messaged me right away to reassure me that you were ‘defending’ her for the sake of everyone elses amusement.

Hey, I’ve no qualms with that. But when I read it, it reminded me that your prerogative is probably less about being ‘right’ than it is about stirring shit purely for the sake of it. Probably because there’s something missing in your life. Good luck to ya.

And Gunnar, I wasn’t crying about you over anything or whatever. No beef with you. I’m just royally pissed about being accused of being Peligro or anyone else. I haven’t the time or interest in catfishing or any shit like that. Like Nathan said, I’m a struggling musician, gotta find leads whereever I can.

[reply]Wait,this is a Ministry forum?

You gotta admit this thread is far more entertaining than many of the post barker albums. And if you dont think so, well, you know which thread to avoid.[/reply]

Oh,I avoid plenty of it as I just don’t have the time to sift through all of it…I don’t take much seriously…especially forum wars…as long as people are having fun, well have at it…

And Gunnar, I wasn’t crying about you over anything or whatever. No beef with you. I’m just royally pissed about being accused of being Peligro or anyone else. I haven’t the time or interest in catfishing or any shit like that. Like Nathan said, I’m a struggling musician, gotta find leads whereever I can.

No worries, Man. I hope all is going well with your career (I think you’d indicated somewhere that it was, so that’s good).

I had no plan of ever saying anything on the board about you being Peligro, but have assumed it since the conclusion of “Grumpy V. Peligro” (2014, I think?). It wasn’t just the stuff that Grumpy has stated but it always cracked me up that there was so much mystery to various performances and such . . . . . Playing a GG Allin tribute with a full face mask . . . . playing a Mayhem show under a black sheet . . . it was just weird, that’s all.

I’m not gonna hound you on this shit, because, like I noted earlier, it wouldn’t affect my own opinions on you either way. Or even on the flip side . . . I quite respect and admire a good harmless scam.

I honestly wouldn’t give a shit about any of it if I were you. Either you ran some killer game and should take a well-deserved bow, or Grumpy’s all wrapped up again in solving mysteries but is heading down a dead end.

If it really does bother you so much, maybe you guys can agree on a way to “prove” it either way (some Peligro selfies with a sign that says ‘Fuck You, Grumpy’? Skype with the both of you? Whatever.)

If I were in your shoes and actually cared that people thought this of me, I’d be 1000x pissed at “Peligro” for dragging me into this make believe LEGOLAND.

Seems you’ve always been a good friend to him and for him to not do the bare minimum to clear your name is a bit shitty if it’s causing you grief.

Anyway, Man, that’s just my 2 cents. I don’t care to look inside Grumpy’s head and try to figure out what makes him tick, but I’ve been on this board long enough to know HOW he ticks . . . . and dropping a subject or quitting a pursuit that he feels both right and strongly about is not something he is apt to do, ever. So, for your own sanity, I’d say the best thing is to either accept that Grumpy’s gonna continue his crusade of “truth” until the bitter end (if there is one) . . . . or make an arrangement that he can agree with which will SHUT HIM UP.

Wishing you all the best regardless.

Now, we all know Gerda was an outright nutter. IIRC, you were batting to her defence and I paid you out for it. You messaged me right away to reassure me that you were ‘defending’ her for the sake of everyone elses amusement.

I miss her.
That was a golden time.
I can’t believe that was 6 years ago now! Crazy stuff.

I was sitting here shaking my head wondering what the hell your entire deal was, Nathan, but upon scrolling through some past messages, I came across one from you which was rather telling.

Talk about telling, I’m about to produce the threads that brought on your screen shot. Man the writing is clear as day.

Seriously for the 4 people following this thread and are amused by it minimize your browser so it obscures the user name and see if you can spot who the real peligro is. You’ll think all three of them are the same guy… oh yeah, right.

Now, we all know Gerda was an outright nutter. IIRC, you were batting to her defence and I paid you out for it. You messaged me right away to reassure me that you were ‘defending’ her for the sake of everyone elses amusement.

No, I was “defending” her for my amusement. You apparently can’t comprehend what’s written too well, because I say right there, in easy English, that I DON’T DEFEND HER, but gave her the quick illusion of support, because I didn’t want you running her off.

Hey, I’ve no qualms with that. But when I read it, it reminded me that your prerogative is probably less about being ‘right’ than it is about stirring shit purely for the sake of it. Probably because there’s something missing in your life. Good luck to ya.

This is your big reveal? That it’s fun for me to watch Gunnar run schtic on Gerda? Wow, detective, That’s an impressive bit of detecting you did there.

*Forgot to mention that your post is another classic tactic from “peligro” misdirection… change the subject.

playing a Mayhem show under a black sheet . . .

can we drop this charade already… He may have played with Mayhem but the pic he posted was of a black sheet over a mic stand.

If it really does bother you so much, maybe you guys can agree on a way to “prove” it either way (some Peligro selfies with a sign that says ‘Fuck You, Grumpy’? Skype with the both of you? Whatever.)

He’ll just find some fat white pasty guy to hold up a sign… Hell, maybe the same one, but that doesn’t prove that it’s Peligro. Just proves he knows a fat white pasty guy.

If I were in your shoes and actually cared that people thought this of me, I’d be 1000x pissed at “Peligro” for dragging me into this make believe LEGOLAND. Seems you’ve always been a good friend to him and for him to not do the bare minimum to clear your name is a bit shitty if it’s causing you grief.

Too much effort. He’s spending all of his time refuting. “peligro” is absent because he doesn’t wanna fuck up and post something under the wrong account.

Dude just admit it. I’m on board with gunnar. you’re brilliant you’ve run the scam for years. Bravo! now just take a bow and let us marvel at your accomplishment and shower you with the credit you’re due.

I don’t care to look inside Grumpy’s head and try to figure out what makes him tick, but I’ve been on this board long enough to know HOW he ticks . . . . and dropping a subject or quitting a pursuit that he feels both right and strongly about is not something he is apt to do, ever.

Gunnar is pretty damn insightful. I’m definitely a “wanna know Why” kinda guy. that is “How” I tick. I don’t give a fuck that he has 4500 accounts. I just wanted to know “WHY.” I feel pretty confident that he’s inadvertently told us all why at this point. So unless there is anything he wants to add for clarity I’d love to hear it.

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Now, we all know Gerda was an outright nutter. IIRC, you were batting to her defence and I paid you out for it. You messaged me right away to reassure me that you were ‘defending’ her for the sake of everyone elses amusement.

I miss her.
That was a golden time.
I can’t believe that was 6 years ago now! Crazy stuff.[/reply]
the magic of the bone yard has provided!
*we could all probably order her book on Amazon now. [:)]
** it’s not there [:(]

All I can think about while skimming through this thread is how happy that the Primitive Race guy must be to have the attention diverted away from him…