Past Set lists still got crap!!

So I finally got the Overflow bootleg (yea!! 29 down 4 to go!) and I open it up and there is this article about the show pictured on the fold out. the entire article is posted titled Brixton Academy July, 18 1996:
Check it out!

Ask anyone, the industrial revolution was fantastic. One minute we were stuck in Retrogressive World, the Next we’d been invaded by leather-clad loonies bellowing obscenities about an imminent robot invasion. Fine times, indeed, as these unpleasantly hirsute men (and they were always men) conclusively proved that computer driven death metal was a strangely exhilarating experience.
But one band towered above them all. Al Jourgensen’s Ministry were the filthiest, noisiest, and quite possibly silliest of the bunch. Jesus had allegedly built their hotrod, and the fully intended to speed around the world scaring people with it. Along the way Al ranted about ‘thieves’, shooting up (‘just one fix’) and eating people (‘Cannibal Song’). And when he wasn’t doing that he was, quite literally, being a Revolting Cock.
And that, in many ways, was the whole point. Al had ingeniously pinpointed liberals [grmpysmrf’s note: I think the author of this article meant to write conservatives…how many suit and tie people ever go to Ministry? Al ain’t bitchin’ about Mike Moore!] as the real troublemakers within modern society, and so he set out to irritate them all by talking about drugs and swearing a lot. Shock tactics, though inevitably wear off. And as their recent ‘Filth Pig’ album suggested, the only people currently still interested in his antics are Neanderthal weightlifters with a penchant for stretchy, black clothing.
And judging by the vast acres of the empty Academy, not even they fancied the prospect of seeing Al bludgeon them in the face with a gigantic spade as part of the Ministry Live Experience. Frankly, though, who can blame them? Not even Al’s bothered to turn up. Instead he sent along Gary Oldman dressed as a crusty Dracula to fill in for him. Although we might be mistaken, because this rather hunched, little character is ostensibly doing many of the things we used to worship al for doing: Smoking many fags, shouting expletives and playing a fabulous selection of horrendously turgid riffs.
Hold on, scratch that last one, because what used to be good about Ministry was the clinical inhumanity of their sound. Their bonkers, platinum-coated juggernaut of nonsense was the only good thing about them. In this particular case, size was everything. So, it comes as a gross disappointment to find that their futuristic sci-fi mayhem has now been replaced by three fatties laboriously grinding out stodgy riffs from the new album (‘Crumbs’, ‘We Fall’). Still, even that’s better than the inclusion of the elongated harmonica solo’s (‘Filth Pig’) and the sight of fake Al doing a ridiculous little jig every few seconds or so.
When you come to see Ministry, you want to be scared, you want to cower in the face of Al’s offal-ridden microphone and, more persistently, you want to hear some old songs. Hopes rise slightly then, as Al starts repeatedly screaming, “Retaliate!” during ‘Thieves’, it’s the cue for young men to flash their greasy pectorals and for all attempts at subtlety to be indefinitely shelved. ‘Just One Fix’ is accompanied by enormous images of plunging syringes, a 15 minute, ’So What” is augmented by the appropriate shoulder-shrugging and ‘Scarecrow’ is stretched out to a comically-funeral pace. “You like the fast ones, don’t you?” enquires Al. “We’ll do a slow one then.”
Ah yes, that legendary attitude does finally surface. But unfortunately that just means he doesn’t play any of the hits and reduces everything to one long attritional slog. No ‘Jesus Built My Hotrod’, No ‘Stigmata’ and definitely no ‘Lay Lady Lay’. Still it can’t be easy gooning around, pretending to be a Very Frightening Man at Al’s age. In fact, the whole sorry pantomime is doubtless, extremely embarrassing, and demeaning for him. What’s more, in the very near future, it won’t even be making him any more cash.
Al surely realizes that the game’s up. Liberals [grmpysmrf: again, I think he means conservatives] no longer run scared from his Satanic hotrod, and his only friends are a dwindling band of cider-snorting Goths who’ve only come to hear the ‘hits’.
They won’t be coming back. Industrial music has just become obsolete.

PULEASE JUST LEAVE MINISTRY ALONE!!
HAHA

I guess this setlist nastiness really has gone round before!
It’s funny to see that article in a Ministry CD though…You’d figure you’d see something like that in some ministry Competitor’s CD
just thought I’d share.
Late,
grmpysmrf

I remember hating the Filth Pig show, but I also really hated the album when it came out. The two best set lists for me were '88 and '90. It might be retro-favoritism, but getting to hear two Twitch songs, Golden Dawn, You Know What You Are, Flashback, Pailhead/PIL/Puppy songs, and Stainless Steel Providers w/Chris elevates those set lists above the rest.

1002

“You like the fast ones, don’t you?” enquires Al. “We’ll do a slow one then.”

[laugh]

I wouldn’t say that they got crap, per se. You could easily compare this tour to 88, since they played mostly songs from LORAH, with only a couple of “old ones” from twitch. The best two tours though, imo would be 90 and 03 by far. 90 had the attitude, the music, and the lineup that’s still talked about to this very day. So it must have been good, eh? And 03 seemed to wake up and dig up the old songs for the fans. Which I still agree 03 was the real farewell tour.

I respect that Al hates looking to the past and rather move forward; it’s admirable. But for a business standpoint it’s absolutely stupid. You can’t expect to tour and make an assload of cash if you’re not going to throw in some variety. And another difference between 88 and now. Most of that material played in 88 was NEW MATERIAL, while now we’re getting a bunch of songs we’ve already heard on two straight tours.

It’s a mixed opinion, but I think there should be some variety if the fans have already heard songs live. Which is why I can easily excuse the 88 shows.

ahh The Industrial Revolution, i still get chills when i hear those words [:|]. Just thinking of the cold, souless, machine driven beatdown makes me want 2 burn all my Ministry and NIN albums as a sacrifice or show of respect 2 the industrial gods. (kinda what hendrix did with his guitar)

Even though new Ministry material may not have been well received in the past, this time it’s different. In the Filth Pig era Ministry was challenging fans by switching it up from their industrial-thrash sound which Al was quoted as saying he would never revisit because it would be boring. Now he’s gone back to playing a half-assed version of his thrash minus the industrial add butt-rock after promising fans he would revisit classic material on said “fairwell” tour. Two very polar opposite cases IMO.

“Filth Pig” got a lot of hate when it came out. I loved it.

As for the Sphinctour setlist, I didn’t have a problem with it. Al’s performance was utter shite, though. The guy was messed up. Sort of the opposite of the current tour, I guess, where it’s a good show with a lousy setlist.

As for the Sphinctour setlist, I didn’t have a problem with it. Al’s performance was utter shite, though. The guy was messed up.

Took me a couple years to fully absorb filth pig but oce i did ohhh man was it great!!Yeah, Al sounds vEry high when he’s talking to the crowd on the overflow boot!!
Late,
grmpysmrf