“There’s Something About Orgy”
gunnar, the one you called fudgepak chopra or deepthroat chopra or whatever,
actually called himself ‘amir derakh’. as in… i’m here to…
yeah. geddit?
void, i don’t believe for a second you got that gig through any of the typical avenues (ie: booker, manager, critical acclaim). which band member did you sleep with, and if not that, then which one dared you to eat your doodie again?
gunnar, the one you called fudgepak chopra or deepthroat chopra or whatever,
actually called himself ‘amir derakh’. as in… i’m here to…
yeah. geddit?
Holy crap?
Seriously?
That’s really the joke?
Ferrealz?
Oh, wow. Now I REALLY hate them.
Tell me, though, are you serious about that?
I actually loved that first Orgy album, thought it was really cool despite the hideous hair. It had really solid production from Greg Reeley and some other FLA/Puppy guy and the style didn’t really sound like anything else. The second album had two good cuts and then I lost track. Honestly, call me a lightweight, but one Orgy is really all I need in my life.
I actually loved that first Orgy album, thought it was really cool despite the hideous hair. It had really solid production from Greg Reeley and some other FLA/Puppy guy and the style didn’t really sound like anything else. The second album had two good cuts and then I lost track. Honestly, call me a lightweight, but one Orgy is really all I need in my life.
Yeah, ‘Candyass’ is a great album. Pretty unique and for me pretty high up there as far as Industrial Rock albums. They were one of the few bands to sort of hop on that late 90s bandwagon that felt genuine and had a fresh take on the sound.
It’s funny. I think many people on here pride themselves on being “authentic”, yet in cases like this get caught up in image just as much as the teenage target audience that it was originally intended for.
So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser. Then you look down on other bands who use images similarly, albeit with different takes on it, because now you’re old enough to see through it. I believe that’s called being jaded. Well good for you but it’s equally dumb to dislike something based on image alone…
Maybe they fucked up going too far with their image but it’s likely they were styled that way by the label etc. The music IMO speaks for itself and was solid.
As fake as Al’s dreads are, and as calculated as his image always was, I wouldn’t deny that the guy is tough.
You think he’d fold like a napkin if some dude punched him backstage? Unlikely.
It’s funny. I think many people on here pride themselves on being “authentic”, yet in cases like this get caught up in image just as much as the teenage target audience that it was originally intended for.
I guess that’s the thing. TEENAGE TARGET AUDIENCE. I’m not 13 and I don’t shop at Hot Topic. It’s hard for anyone over the age of 25 to take these poofters seriously. As the great 20th century philosopher Danny Glover once said, “I’m gettin’ too old for this shit.”
So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser.
I don’t know anyone who fell for those fake ass dreads. But yeah, other than the cabbage patch doll hair, homeboy was legit.
Then you look down on other bands who use images similarly, albeit with different takes on it,
I don’t look down on a band just for using strategic imagery. Heck, I think most of the bands I like do it to some extent or another. But if it’s stupid and looks completely ridiculous, I’m gonna make fun of them whether or not I like the band’s music.
because now you’re old enough to see through it. I believe that’s called being jaded. Well good for you but it’s equally dumb to dislike something based on image alone…
What’s there to see through? It serves a purpose, but if the purpose (to enhance the overall feel and attitude of the band and enhance the stage excitement/ performance) fails miserably and the guys just sit there looking dopey . . . I’m not jaded, Son, I’m just being honest.
Maybe they fucked up going too far with their image but it’s likely they were styled that way by the label etc.
I don’t think they went too far. They just have gay hair and it looks RETARDED! If they would have just gone completely ridiculous and over-the-top like Sigue Sigue Sputnik or something I would have probably been okay with it, but the fact that it looks like they really think that it is okay makes me want to throw bricks into their teeth.
The music IMO speaks for itself
Yes, it does. It says, “WE ARE CHEESY QUEERS!”
I categorically agree with everything Gunnar just said and was about to make some of the same points…
I also agree with the Rev in that I think there is no way Al would fold if he got decked backstage…he would scrap and claw to the death…he would either be pulled off like a ravenous rhesus monkey or he might collapse from stroke…but he wouldn’t just fold from a punch…
[reply]gunnar, the one you called fudgepak chopra or deepthroat chopra or whatever,
actually called himself ‘amir derakh’. as in… i’m here to…
yeah. geddit?
Holy crap?
Seriously?
That’s really the joke?
Ferrealz?
Oh, wow. Now I REALLY hate them.
Tell me, though, are you serious about that?[/reply]
I am very, very, very serious Gunnar.
As for Al being tough.
There’s the story where there was some skinhead giving shit to Duane Buford on the Revco tour. Al and the boys invited him backstage. Then bundled him into some container, locked it and dumped him on the side of the road when they left the city.
Good on em [laugh]
HAHAHAHA!!! I’ve heard a few variants of the Nazi-in-the-trunk story. Brilliant.
I remember back around 1990 or so, I was reading some indie mags article about Al. The guy that was interviewing him met him in some coffee shop diner or something and Al was drinking wine. Some redneck starts eyeballin’ Al and says some snarky comment about his makeup or hair or something and Al squeezes the glass goblet and it breaks in his hand, blood pouring down, while Al just stares at the hick like a possessed psychopath. The good 'ol boy figured he’d leave. And there’s plenty I remember where the first thing Al would say to the interviewer was to ask him if he wanted to do some smack with him.
I know it’s not a long term fitness plan or anything, but damn! I just LOVED the sexy unpredictable danger of classic-era drug-fueled psycho Al.
So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser.
I don’t know anyone who fell for those fake ass dreads. But yeah, other than the cabbage patch doll hair, homeboy was legit.[/reply]
Al’s dreads are/were real… well real in so much that they weren’t sewn into a headband or hat or a full on wig helmet. My wife and I saw them coming out of his head.
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply]So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser.
I don’t know anyone who fell for those fake ass dreads. But yeah, other than the cabbage patch doll hair, homeboy was legit.[/reply]
Al’s dreads are/were real… well real in so much that they weren’t sewn into a headband or hat or a full on wig helmet. My wife and I saw them coming out of his head.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
lol THE DREADS ARE REAL!!!
Who knows man…I think at times they’ve been real and at times not…
They couldn’t have always been real though. There were definitely occasions and accounts where they were fake…
[reply][reply]So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser.
I don’t know anyone who fell for those fake ass dreads. But yeah, other than the cabbage patch doll hair, homeboy was legit.[/reply]
Al’s dreads are/were real… well real in so much that they weren’t sewn into a headband or hat or a full on wig helmet. My wife and I saw them coming out of his head.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
lol THE DREADS ARE REAL!!!
Who knows man…I think at times they’ve been real and at times not…
They couldn’t have always been real though. There were definitely occasions and accounts where they were fake…[/reply]
Well I can tell you along with those real dreads he had a really massive bald spot too!
Late,
grmpysmrf
Yo, Void! I just saw the video for Tokyo Innuendo on your channel . . . . that one’s really cool! Well done video, great editing and synching, and a pretty rockin’ tune. Cheers, Bro!
[reply][reply][reply]So many of you bought into Al Jourgensen’s “I’m real” “I’m tough” “the dreads are real” bullshit hook line and sinker until you got older and wiser.
I don’t know anyone who fell for those fake ass dreads. But yeah, other than the cabbage patch doll hair, homeboy was legit.[/reply]
Al’s dreads are/were real… well real in so much that they weren’t sewn into a headband or hat or a full on wig helmet. My wife and I saw them coming out of his head.
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
lol THE DREADS ARE REAL!!!
Who knows man…I think at times they’ve been real and at times not…
They couldn’t have always been real though. There were definitely occasions and accounts where they were fake…[/reply]
Well I can tell you along with those real dreads he had a really massive bald spot too!
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]
Yep,there are a couple of glaring shots of that bald spot on the Spchinctour dvd…
He used fake dreads on the Sphinctour.
I don’t know about every other time, but he definitely used 'em on the Sphinctour. This was verified from within by someone on the tour (no, I will not sell out my source).
Y’all can believe whatever you want about Al’s dreads, but on the 1996 tour he definitely had some fakes.
Yo, Void! I just saw the video for Tokyo Innuendo on your channel . . . . that one’s really cool! Well done video, great editing and synching, and a pretty rockin’ tune. Cheers, Bro!
Thanks yeah that was early on with the new incarnation. The new EP we did though is really going to blow people away, and it will include a new version of “Tokyo Innuendo”.
Integrity.
Last night was a blast! Good to meet Dave from this forum (if you’re there, I forgot your username) but give a shout!