I’ve been getting into some of the new EBM Euro-style artists lately. Anyone else into this stuff?
I really like UnterArt, Ashbury Heights, Rabia Sorda and KLOQ (my starting point has been a couple of Out of Line compilations). Any other suggestions?
Can you tell me more about these bands? I can’t seem to find any place to listen to samples right now (my work blocks a handful of websites that would normally be helpful). Do they sound different from the scads of generic sounding bands that are on Metropolis last time I checked?
UnterArt’s track “Now or Never” is a great dancefloor burner. They’ve got both the harsh vocals and the VNV style soaring vocals. Hard beats, heavy synths. Everything else I’ve heard by them is good but “Now or Never” is the standout.
Ashbury Heights has male/female vocals and a bit of synth-poppiness to their style. Their first album has a few good tracks on it but the new ep “Morningstar in a Black Car” is all gold except for a remix from album one.
Rabia Sorda is a solo project from the singer of Hocico and I like the RS stuff I’ve heard better than Hocico. The music’s a little softer but the voice is still very evil sounding. He doesn’t have much out and I don’t have his album yet, just an EP and a few comp tracks.
KLOQ has a Nitzer Ebb vibe to the vocals. The programming on the music is intelligent and sometimes surprising. Good shouty stompy but with a few more brains to the beats.
I don’t listen to too much Metro stuff these days, though I do enjoy Combichrist, so I can’t much compare. I do like industrial club music, so know I’m coming from that background. One man’s treasure is another’s trash, or so they say.
The “Awake The Machines Vol. 6” comp has 30 some tracks and is $10 on iTunes and was my starting place. About a third of the stuff I didn’t like at all but there was a good ten tracks I really enjoyed and another third that was perfectly good. If you like any of the samples I’d recommend picking it up and giving it a few listens to sort out the bands you want to listen to further.
I might check that comp. out - it’s a mere $7.99 at mp3.amazon.com, for those of us who don’t use iTunes unless absolutely necessary.
Somebody really needs to release the Imatem albums domestically. I fileshared mine, but I’d gladly pay for them (at a reasonable price, of course).
I always forget about Amazon, I’ve become such an iTunes slave. Better quality, less bullshit - I really need to get my head around that.
What’s Imatem like?
Have you heard much from the Dubstep scene Green Death??? There is tons of deadly shit to be had.
I tired of Industrial years ago and have always thought that if it progressed as it should of instead of dying a quick death it would’ve sounded like Amon Tobin’s later albums as well as alot of the new Dubstep that’s around created by producers such as Goth Trad, Distance, Suspicious Stench, Benga and a truckload more.
There’s so much different Dubstep to choose from too…you’ve got Industrial Sounding Dubstep (Distance in particular is the man for that), Reggae influenced Dubstep (Mala, Benga, Skream, 6Blocc, Aardvarck etc) Techno influenced Dubstep (2562 is superb) then you have your usual badass Dubstep from guys like Loefah. It’s the freshest and most bad-ass new music coming out today imo.
Check out www.dubstepforum.com. They’ve got a “mixes” section where there are loads of free downloads. And I’d also suggest checking out the myspace pages of the dudes I’ve listed.
I like the dubstep I’ve heard and will check out the artists you suggest. Thanks Toot!
I will say, though, that none of the Dubstep has totally scratched my angry German 4/4 stomp urge that modern EBM gets to. It’s not the most refined taste I have but it’s there and it demands attention!
What’s Imatem like?
It’s the guy from Project Pitchfork with a variety of vocalists. So it sounds like you would imagine that to sound. The Ronan Harris track is better than anything VNV Nation’s done in years.
If by euro-style EBM u mean militant stompy punkish kinda thing, similar to Nitzer Ebb, u should check out Run Level Zero (which i’ve been listening to alot lately) Feindflug no vocals with Feindflug just epic German samples, Container 90 very punkish feel to them, Spetsnaz, if there were a Nitzer Ebb sound alike contest theyd win hands down.
If by euro-style EBM u mean militant stompy punkish kinda thing, similar to Nitzer Ebb, u should check out Run Level Zero (which i’ve been listening to alot lately) Feindflug no vocals with Feindflug just epic German samples, Container 90 very punkish feel to them, Spetsnaz, if there were a Nitzer Ebb sound alike contest theyd win hands down.
I like Feindflug quite a bit and will definitely check out the other three projects. Have you heard the track Feindflug did with Solitary Experiments? It’s dripped in awesome.
Has anyone heard of the bands I mentioned above? Just curious.
I have vague recollections of Noxious Emissions from my record store days in the mid-90s. Don’t really recall much about them either way. I’ll check out the track you suggested though, fo sho.
@MAGGITTOOTH:
I popped around on the dubstep forum today and have a few mixes I plan to dl at home. It’s funny though, everyone on that forum “speaks” kind of like you. It’s like you dubsteppers have your own lingual cadence.
@thegreendeath
No i dont think i’ve heard that one yet. I’ve only heard a handfull of songs from Feindflug, their stuff is hard to get a hold of and expensive to. Glabenskrieg (or something like that) is my favorite song so far.
I can’t recommend the Feindflug song “Kahle Bedrohung” enough. It’s excellent in it’s overall stompiness.
I’d also mention that, while it isn’t new, Das Ich’s album “Egodram” is great and seems to contain all the good elements from the angry german stompy realm of things.
@MAGGITTOOTH:
I popped around on the dubstep forum today and have a few mixes I plan to dl at home. It’s funny though, everyone on that forum “speaks” kind of like you. It’s like you dubsteppers have your own lingual cadence.
Yeah they’re pretty beserk about their Dubstep. What mixes did you download???
Download these…
http://www.rinse.fm/podcasts/Youngsta81107.mp3
I tired of Industrial years ago and have always thought that if it progressed as it should of instead of dying a quick death it would’ve sounded like Amon Tobin’s later albums as well as alot of the new Dubstep that’s around created by producers such as Goth Trad, Distance, Suspicious Stench, Benga and a truckload more.
No. It did progress into stuff like Wolf Eyes, Sightings, Prurient, Hair Police, Sword Heaven and other artists generally labelled as “Noise” but who are performing actual compositions and not just improvisations when they play live.
Industrial is supposed to be dark, angry, and alienating. That’s why none of you like modern Industrial except for Peligro. These artists did a good job alienating all the people who jumped on the bandwagon with Industrial Rock and EBM in the 90’s.
No. It did progress into stuff like Wolf Eyes, Sightings, Prurient, Hair Police, Sword Heaven and other artists generally labelled as “Noise” but who are performing actual compositions and not just improvisations when they play live.
Industrial is supposed to be dark, angry, and alienating. That’s why none of you like modern Industrial except for Peligro. These artists did a good job alienating all the people who jumped on the bandwagon with Industrial Rock and EBM in the 90’s.
OK, I had a long day at work yesterday so I’m slacking a little today so will go into a bit of a rant, for those who don’t enjoy rants please read no further.
I listened to my share of noise and made my share of it too back in the tape trading glory days. These days noise is not alienating to me, it’s just boring. When something “alienating” has been done for almost 30 years is it still alienating? Nothing that your band, or my old projects, or Wolf Eyes, or Whitehouse or any of 'em do is going to have the impact that Throbbing Gristle did no matter how many times we scream about “Mohammad Being A Terrorist”
That’s because TG blew the lids off of people’s expectations and it made people mad because they were doing things “wrong”. There was no genre to define what they did early on, it was pure, mad chaos that took aspects of the past and glued them together in the context of a vast and strange rock band that did everything wrong. “Industrial” came later. It was a tag journalists used to try and define this weirdness. “True industrial” is absurd because almost none of the originators of the “sound” like the term industrial at all.
Once the genre name got bandied about by journalists, other bands wanting the same journalists’ interest started proclaiming themselves “industrial” in order to get noticed.
Really in many ways TG were the cultural mash-up of avant composers such as Stockhausen, rock bands like the Velvet Underground, fringe writers such as William S. Burroughs and freak culture the likes of which Jerry Springer and his ilk love to feature. It was, at the time, a unique blen but now that dish has been cooked, served and eaten - we’ve all dined at that table. We can make it again, it may be better cooked, delivered in a more garish or tasteful container, but it will never be as shockingly new as it was when TG made it.
Eat the food you like, love the music you love, but this constant bickering about the “true way” is boring. If you need your music to be better than other people’s in order to like it there’s a good chance you don’t actually like the music you like and you’re simply using it as a crutch to hold you up.
Yeah they’re pretty beserk about their Dubstep. What mixes did you download???
Download these…
http://www.rinse.fm/podcasts/Youngsta81107.mp3
http://dubstepforum.com/viewtopic.php?t=74765
http://www.zshare.net/audio/5589194341a998b4/
Didn’t have much time last night to download so I’ll dl tomorrow when my glorious day off occurs! Thanks for the links!
Eat the food you like, love the music you love, but this constant bickering about the “true way” is boring. If you need your music to be better than other people’s in order to like it there’s a good chance you don’t actually like the music you like and you’re simply using it as a crutch to hold you up.
Well said.
I do sometimes wonder what people who seem to seem to equate musical obscurity with musical superiority are doing on a board originally dedicated to the second most commercially successful industrial (or, if you prefer, “industrial”) band of all time.
Good thread, guys. I haven’t heard of a lot of the bands mentioned above, but am gonna check them out based on your descriptions. I may start out with KLOQ.
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