Cleo just released it in their ebay store:
It looks like this is the full length show from 2/22/90 at Merriville, IN, which should be the same show as ICYDFLSU. Although, I’m going to take a wild guess that it doesn’t have the overdubs from that release, so it doesn’t conflict with the copyright held by Sire.
Bisquit probably has better information on this.
I grabbed it…thx for the heads up.
Just ordered this. The setlist looks mostly complete, but is missing Stainless Steel Providers and doesn’t show some of the extra shorter bits like the Pledge Of Allegiance or Message From Our Sponsor. Some of those might be included, or they may cut out bits like they did on Toronto 86. Though that was pretty minor - a few seconds of banter with the crowd. This would cut quite a bit of time from the show. The runtime of my copy, sourced from an audience cassette, is 106 minutes. No idea how much audio they can fit on a side of vinyl these days.
I’m fine without the overdubs, since they basically erase Chris and Ogre’s vocals. Having an untouched version of this concert is very high on my want list, so this is certainly promising looking.
I doubt the overdubs had anything to do with the Sire thing, since they likely still view them as the same performances. It’s more likely that they only did overdubs on those 8 tracks for the official release and left the others untouched. I’ve always been pretty sure they cut it down to 8 because they didn’t want to release any Revco or Pailhead tracks on Sire out of concern of losing the rights to those. And Smothered Hope is Netwerk and the Lard stuff is technically AT. A great setlist can make for convoluted licensing. But if they knew they were never releasing the other tracks, they’d never have overdubbed them. Hopefully closer to the two tracks from this that they released on Wax Trax, which sound way less messed-around with thank In Case.
I didn’t give them a copy of this or anything else post-86 when they were putting together the box, so hopefully this is sourced from soundboard tapes. Really hope they sell enough to make further releases like this worthwhile.
Supposed to arrive next week. Anybody ever order from Cleo on ebay before? Do they send download codes in advance?
Thanks for the quick follow up Bisquit!
I’m hoping to pick a copy soon if finances allow.
I held off on buying the vinyl for ICYDFLSU in case they planned on releasing the full set, so I’m pretty excited for this. Bummer about Stainless Steel, but I have the Revco 12" that it’s featured on.
Supposed to arrive next week. Anybody ever order from Cleo on ebay before? Do they send download codes in advance?
I usually buy their Ministry releases through their eBay store, and sadly, no codes were provided. 
Hopefully they do a CD/digital release for this as well.
It is indeed the master stereo recording from 2/22/90. Ministry’s bandcamp page now has it up with streaming, with pics confirming the date/reel. Listening to it now, very nice recording.
https://ministryband.bandcamp.com/album/live-necronomicon
It hasn’t hit streaming services though. I emailed Cleo to see if the vinyl comes with a digital code, still waiting on a response.
Nice. Though I really wonder why whoever’s mastering these live shows thinks they need to edit out everything but the songs. This one’s missing a lot. Still great to have, but do they really need to cut the 30 seconds of Jello talking before Hellfudge? Or the intro jamming on Public Image?
Not sure. I guess they might need to do some editing to make everything fit nicely on vinyl, but with digital there really is no need.
It sounds like Al redid quite a bit of his vocals for In Case… Overall, the mix sounds much better on this release.
are we going to get a CD release?
are we going to get a CD release?
I hope so. The “official” release date for this is September 1st, so I guess we’ll find out shortly before. The digital version is already up for sale on the bandcamp page. Interesting enough they are selling vinyl copies there as well, but they won’t be shipping until the release date.
Hopefully those of us who ordered via Ebay will get our copies sooner.
This has better cover art than AmeriKKKant.
looks sweet, too bad it’s missing SSP
and yes, no overdubs
bisquitodoom, this overdub thing with “In case…” I don’ tknow about this. I’ve looked up on our discography page and wikipedia. So i tried to inform myself before asking :)…
Im confused, are you saying something about chris and ohgr being removed? what else? guitar doubling? straight up re-vocals?
The vocals were the most obvious, since both Chis (on So What) and Ogre (on Thieves) were almost completely replaced with Al’s vocals. As far as I know, the band never officially acknowledged that they overdubbed these, other than a couple interviews with folks after they left the band. Though it was sort of implied in the note on the liner notes for Just Another Fix (IIRC) saying emphatically that there were no overdubs on these live tracks (the JAF ones from 1992).
Now that I listen to the soundboard source from Merriville, there were some other major overdubs as well. Lots of samples sound quieter. The higher-pitched guitar (Scaccia?) is much more prevalent in the Cleo mix as is one of the drummers in parts, though that could just be the mixing. I haven’t done a comparison listen yet, but the live tracks from In Case are sort of imprinted on my DNA by now, so when I listen to the new one, the differences are pretty big. I highly recommend this.
Now to see how well I can surgically add Stainless Steel Providers and the rest of Public Image to the mix…
the live tracks from In Case are sort of imprinted on my DNA by now, so when I listen to the new one, the differences are pretty big. I highly recommend this.
thanks so much for the information. i’m like you, this album is imprinted in my DNA too, and it’s going to be a blast to listen to because of that. Thanks to you and realm for the knowledge sharing.
well, if i need to buy the album i will, but i just don’t see getting my 1980-something turntable down from the attic.
The original live Revco tracks on the Wax Trax BSQ Remix cds were cut in different places, but when they were added as bonus tracks to the YGDSOAB rerelease in 2004, they were split in the same way as this one. So you can take the live Stainless Steel Providers track from the second disk of the Rykodisc rerelease of YGDSOAB and add it just before Public Image and it works pretty much perfectly. It’s still not the uncut show, but that makes it pretty close - only 10 minutes shorter than the full bootleg).
After a little messing around, I was able to add the Pledge Of Allegiance from the VHS and the “Looks like we got a bit of a frisky bunch here” bit from the In Case cd. I tried adding some of Jello’s spoken word between Lard and Hellfudge, but the crowd noise is too different to make it a seamless cut. Still got 99 minutes of the full 106. I guess I’ll call myself a happy camper at this point.
Speaking of this show, everyone calls it the “Merriville, IN” show (including the official liner notes), but is that even a place? The closest I can find on a map is Merrillville.
I find it kind of odd that they used to play Merrillville, which isn’t very big (current population about 35,000) and is very close to Chicago, but skip Indianapolis. You just don’t see popular bands doing those kind of tours to smaller places these days, it’s major cities only unless it’s a festival date.
The vocals were the most obvious, since both Chis (on So What) and Ogre (on Thieves) were almost completely replaced with Al’s vocals.
this is even funnier, considering how TMIATTT liner notes mistakenly credit Al on vocals for So What.
Im confused, are you saying something about chris and ohgr being removed? what else? guitar doubling? straight up re-vocals?
to be honest, most of live releases get some overdubbing done, both vocals and instruments. it might be as little as fixing a mix or sound quality issue - something got recorded too quiet or not at all, or somebody flubbed the part, or just to beef up the overall sound of a mix.
sometimes vocals get re-recorded, either bits or entirely. check out The Missing, on the band camp version you hear original vocals, especially noticeable in lyrics “he takes it for granted, his time’s gonna come, he’s missing, they took him away” he almost speaks these words in lower tonality, while on the released ICYDFLSU album he really shouts them. deity guitar solo was also re-recorded, i suspect many other bits and parts were as well.
i have to say i prefer this “raw” unoverdubbed version now. maybe it’s because its something new, i duno.