Trent said nice things about him in FIX, so. . .
Trent said nice things about him in FIX, so. . .
Trent praising Ministry is basically the first paragraph of the book, too.
[reply]Trent said nice things about him in FIX, so. . .
Trent praising Ministry is basically the first paragraph of the book, too.[/reply]
That intro part with all the praising quotes is like an Encyclopaedia of Emo Mallrock Faggitry . . . Slipknot, KoRn, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Mudvayne . . . It’s just a steaming pile of douchecaps.
I’m about 2/3 thru this book. There’s stuff that’s been mentioned over the years that seems to be missing. What about the puke choker incident that inspired the song Breathe? Why is there nothing about the issues concerning Reznor doing vocals on Supernaut for the Homo DJs release? Al seems to just gloss over the actual recording periods and slathers on the drugs and partying. Connelly’s name is mentioned as doing the vocals for Linger Ficken Good. The next time his name is mentioned, Al basically says “Chris Connelly was gone by now” No details as to why.
[reply][reply]Trent said nice things about him in FIX, so. . .
Trent praising Ministry is basically the first paragraph of the book, too.[/reply]
That intro part with all the praising quotes is like an Encyclopaedia of Emo Mallrock Faggitry . . . Slipknot, KoRn, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Mudvayne . . . It’s just a steaming pile of douchecaps.[/reply]
Yeah totally…anyone who’s into rock and biographys but not really heard much Ministry would look at that and move on to Rick Wakeman’s biography or wharever.
I’m almost finished and I’ve enjoyed it a lot more than I imagined…and there’s a lot more info on the periods I;m interested in that I imagined.
Al said this about the book in a recent interview with SPIN magazine…
[i]Q: You’re pretty candid in Lost Gospels about people you dislike, from your longtime Ministry partner Paul Barker to Courtney Love. Are you bracing for some angry phone calls?
A: he co-author in a room in my house and you get 'em shitfaced drunk for a week and leave the tape recorder on. Then, he goes back to New York all hung over and does his due diligence on finding out if anything I’ve told him rang true. In other words: “Is this guy completely bullshitting me?” And he goes back and does four weeks of interviews with people who were there or whatever, and then we book him for another week, and he comes out, and we just stay in a room and we get shitfaced, and I tell him some more stories about what’s happened to me, and then he goes back for another four weeks, checks it all out, makes sure I’m not full of shit. Then, he sends that to the publisher, and then the publisher sends it to their lawyers, and then they do like six weeks of calling people and making sure this and that and the other thing. So in other words, this book is already really filtered down. This stuff I’m not sue-able for.[/i]
Al said this about the book in a recent interview with SPIN magazine…
[i]Q: You’re pretty candid in Lost Gospels about people you dislike, from your longtime Ministry partner Paul Barker to Courtney Love. Are you bracing for some angry phone calls?
A: he co-author in a room in my house and you get 'em shitfaced drunk for a week and leave the tape recorder on. Then, he goes back to New York all hung over and does his due diligence on finding out if anything I’ve told him rang true. In other words: “Is this guy completely bullshitting me?” And he goes back and does four weeks of interviews with people who were there or whatever, and then we book him for another week, and he comes out, and we just stay in a room and we get shitfaced, and I tell him some more stories about what’s happened to me, and then he goes back for another four weeks, checks it all out, makes sure I’m not full of shit. Then, he sends that to the publisher, and then the publisher sends it to their lawyers, and then they do like six weeks of calling people and making sure this and that and the other thing. So in other words, this book is already really filtered down. This stuff I’m not sue-able for.[/i]
The only thing he could conceivably get sued for is the entire “PAUL EMBEZZLED FROM ME AND MY BESTIES AND WANTED ME TO DIE!!!” section.
I say that because, 1) His lawsuit against Barker was dismissed and 2) if the information [url “http://sanctacaecilia.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/the-great-life-insurance-caper”]in this blog post is right, even the life insurance story isn’t as damning as Angie and Mike made it out to be.
Don’t know if Barker will even bother, though…
That intro part with all the praising quotes is like an Encyclopaedia of Emo Mallrock Faggitry . . . Slipknot, KoRn, Disturbed, Linkin Park, Mudvayne . . . It’s just a steaming pile of douchecaps.
Well like it or not this is the wave of music that was most inspired by the sound of Ministry.
In many ways I believe Ministry pioneered the way for nu metal. It’s kind of their legacy…
Don’t know if Barker will even bother, though…
Why wouldn’t he? His wife is a hotshot lawyer. The whole thing should really be a slam dunk with Gerda on the case. Isn’t that right, Ms. Totally Random Poster With a Mysterious Emotional Investment In All Things Barker?
[reply]Al said this about the book in a recent interview with SPIN magazine…
[i]Q: You’re pretty candid in Lost Gospels about people you dislike, from your longtime Ministry partner Paul Barker to Courtney Love. Are you bracing for some angry phone calls?
A: he co-author in a room in my house and you get 'em shitfaced drunk for a week and leave the tape recorder on. Then, he goes back to New York all hung over and does his due diligence on finding out if anything I’ve told him rang true. In other words: “Is this guy completely bullshitting me?” And he goes back and does four weeks of interviews with people who were there or whatever, and then we book him for another week, and he comes out, and we just stay in a room and we get shitfaced, and I tell him some more stories about what’s happened to me, and then he goes back for another four weeks, checks it all out, makes sure I’m not full of shit. Then, he sends that to the publisher, and then the publisher sends it to their lawyers, and then they do like six weeks of calling people and making sure this and that and the other thing. So in other words, this book is already really filtered down. This stuff I’m not sue-able for.[/i]
The only thing he could conceivably get sued for is the entire “PAUL EMBEZZLED FROM ME AND MY BESTIES AND WANTED ME TO DIE!!!” section.
I say that because, 1) His lawsuit against Barker was dismissed and 2) if the information [url “http://sanctacaecilia.wordpress.com/2013/07/17/the-great-life-insurance-caper”]in this blog post is right, even the life insurance story isn’t as damning as Angie and Mike made it out to be.
Don’t know if Barker will even bother, though…[/reply].
The blog you link to sure is a hotbed of great activity and journalistic integrity. I’m sure that it isn’t run by the wife of a man whose name rhymes with Schmaul Schmaurker.
Context is everything, folks. Reading about this from biased parties in a biased book it’s going to come across as very sleazy. Now assuming Al, even in the worst throes of his addiction gave Schmaul his consent to have these holding rights to the name Ministry as well as financial assets it doesn’t change that maybe, just maybe it seemed like autonomous decision making founded out of a deep seeded trust with each other. Al couldn’t have ever been that misguided. No one in any circle could ever be that vulturous or want to exploit someone’s potential death like that.
yes but what Al or his publishers didn’t research is that in the UK & British commonwealth, it is possible to sue someone for being a total cunt.
Is that why you moved to the States?
BAM!
still a proud British citizen!
just saaaaaaaaaayin’
Why wouldn’t he? His wife is a hotshot lawyer. The whole thing should really be a slam dunk with Gerda on the case. Isn’t that right, Ms. Totally Random Poster With a Mysterious Emotional Investment In All Things Barker?
The blog you link to sure is a hotbed of great activity and journalistic integrity. I’m sure that it isn’t run by the wife of a man whose name rhymes with Schmaul Schmaurker.
Well, damn. I thought no one would guess after I went into therapy to conquer my deep-seated fear of punctuation and the shift key.
But, alas, you are all too clever by half and saw straight through my deception. Woe unto me, for I fail at sockpuppeting. (Well, successful sockpuppeting, anyway.) [:(]
Woe unto me, for I fail at sockpuppeting. (Well, successful sockpuppeting, anyway.) [:(]
Aww, don’t beat yourself up about it, “Laufey”. There’s LOTS of things you fail at.
Aww, don’t beat yourself up about it, “Laufey”. There’s LOTS of things you fail at.
Boy, don’t I know it.
I have a strange feeling that I should namedrop here, but right now I’m quite certain that I actually have no friends, quasi-famous or otherwise. I’ll probably think of someone once I dissociate back into my Gerda personality, though.
Oh sorry. But, you know, when I disassociate, I totally forget the passwords to my other accounts and the email addresses they’re wired to. I also move from one side of the country to the other. That’s how severe my D.I.D. is, obviously.
I’m at the Animositisomina/Shit-on-Paul Barker part of the book. It’s been a pretty good fucking read even if I have rolled my eyes and sighed more times while reading it than any other book.
I’ll likely skim through any parts about the last few albums because I couldn’t give a fuck less about the events that transpired while making shitty, generic music.
- And is it just me or is it kind of irritating how Al seems so convinced every fucking place is haunted but hasn’t seemed to consider the fact that he was using an insane amount of drugs at the time that would have altered his state of mind and likely caused him to see/hear things that weren’t there?
It’s entirely possible that Paul sucked running the band and didn’t handle the finances properly. Al, Angie, Mike, and Gibby all seem to think so.
That said, it’s also possible that he was doing the best he could when his partner was a borderline useless junkie. Al just comes off like a petty ingrate when he talks about Paul - “Me and Mikey were completely fucked up all the time and all we cared about was drugs, so I made Paul do all the work. What a fucking asshole that guy is!”
I’m also not a big fan of the attitude Al and Mike had that they were the cool kids by doing nothing but destroying themselves 24/7 while the “Book Club” guys were snobby nerds. I’m more apt to be sympathetic to the team that wants to get shit done and has a sense of responsibility.