I did read his book. Yea, i wondered who vogue was - think most who read his book would. Are you insinuating that it’s the same situation? It’s not the same girl because the years are not the same. Please elaborate.
Terry Roberts was arrested for statutory rape while on tour. Treated as a Common tour hazard.
Vogue was an underage super model.
Musicians and models; who knew?
Musicians age 45 and older, you are going to find many who sampled underage girls 20 plus years ago when they first started out in music and as they became successful. Some guys probably have no memory of the events due to all the drugs and booze involved during those years.
Times have changed. A lot of Older musicians will fall.
My question in all of this is where were K’s parents, and why were charges not filed back when it happened? She didn’t get her happily ever after dream wedding to her rock star so now it’s vengeance? The timing and alliance with Lacey is curious, as is K’s posting that she won. This Definitely isn’t about justice because the DA refused to indict. Or is it bigger picture and intended to bring down the industrial music community that hasn’t been super kind to Lacey?
This doesn’t impact just Sin; it ripples deep due to the other people, bands, contracts, and the livelihoods involved. Sin now, who next?
Pitchforks and torches!!!
I don’t remember the Vogue reference either but KMFDM has a song/single called Vogue maybe it’s connected to a guy in KMFDM… Wasn’t ogre on that tour? Isn’t he a KMFDM guy?
Just spitballin here… might have nothing to do with the tour at all. maybe his kid is fuckin’ up in school and he’s gotta meet with the principal weekly to keep from her getting expelled or some shit… You know unavoidable life type shit. Maybe Chris found out he wouldn’t be paid until after the tour and from experience he knows what that actually means not paid and decided fuck it I ain’t doing it.
I this a recent development or have they been deleted for a while?
It’s possible that life got in the way or it was over being on the road for a month and not getting paid.
Clause posted on the WTR FB page that Chris definitely dropped because of Sin.
That’s exactly what that is!! Glad someone else sees it. I’m all for Me too but lets keep it in this century and not pile up on people for some 20 year old accusations that are unprovable. Keep the movement too some shit that is provable. A toxicology report for a roofy, a rape kit anything that that isn’t just an accusation.
The alliance with Lacey isn’t curious at all. That chick is totally up that girls ass manipulating her into doing that shit. This is about Lacey not that girl. She clearly has some personal grudge against sin. or more likely isn’t over him so she’s doing what she can to get his attention.
That’s nice to hear nobody else wants to put up with her bullshit either… But “bring down the industrial music community.” That’s crazy talk! Sin is not the glue that holds the industrial music community together. He’s a guitar player than more than likely made some bad decisions. bad decisions that are not specific to the industrial music community… I’m sure we’ve all heard the story of Led zeppelin (a tech I think ) masturbating a groupie with a fish he caught while jimmy page looked on… beastiality is against the law but nobody’s rushing out to file charges. It’s the rock star life.
I don’t know who or what this means.
dang. that’s some drama. something is up, i mean chris’ facebook page (personal) is not online today. it’s weird. of all the shit that’s flown around i don’t think he’s ever hidden his profile.
Both deleted this weekend.
Clause is Leather Strip.
While I understand what you are saying, it starts with one. The rest of these guys are not saints. The past cannot be changed.
Lacey posted all about sharing and liking. She’s definitely using these women for her own agenda.
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What’s he wtr? I gather fb is facebook.
Wax Trax! Records FB group (there are two, this is the fan one).
Right there with her
At the show where Longoria first met Quirin, both she and the friend she attended with were chaperoned by their mothers. Milly Longoria remembers leaving the venue and taking a short drive to give her daughter some space, then returning to and finding Kelly and Quirin in conversation.
“I walked in and I noticed that he was very close to her,” Milly recalls. “They were already talking. I approached him right away. I said, ‘Hello,’ and I got in between. I told him who I was, and I said, ‘Who are you?’ Then he introduced himself, and I said, ‘Okay.’ I said, ‘I’m her mom,’ just to let him know that she wasn’t there by herself.”
It reads like bullshit. They’re at a concert talking normally? You got to get up close to talk (shout) So the other person can hear you. Mom leaves her teenaged daughter at a concert to take a short drive to “give her some space?” What club has in and out privileges for anyone… ever? She had to go for a drive? there wasn’t a wall in the back that she couldn’t lean against? Fuckin bullshit…
The article seems to be back up for viewing but I didn’t want to bump that bullshit to the top again. Calling bullshit on all these claims.
I read the article a couple times. It’s not the initial encounter I’m talking about.
K’s mom took a ride around the block for 7 years while all this was going down and never pressed charges.
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Exactly! How come she’s not tarnishing her mom for being an unfit parent? Oh, that’s right, this is really Lacey’s thing.
This is bad, and could endanger the tour, depending on how members of FLA and KMFDM feel about everything. The Billboard article is extremely detailed, and based on events between 2002 and 2011, roughly. I don’t even know if CC would return to the lineup if Sin was ousted by Al.
Article link, if you need it:
Ministry Guitarist Sin Quirin Accused of Underage Sexual Relationships by Two Women
It was interesting reading FB comments on CC’s ‘author’ page today. Lots of people want to sell their tickets, some claim they only bought tickets because Chris announced joining the tour. I bought tickets on Friday before CC had even confirmed, I was going either way. Actually, Denver is already sold out after two days of sales (Ogden Theater, which I’m told is a small venue…could be demand, could be due to scalpers/ticket brokers). Strange to see this unfold since the tour announcement (though the allegations about Sin have been around for a while, per the article).
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I’m going to go out on a limb and say Sascha will demand out of his contract with an ultimatum.
Bill will probably follow suit.
Just know that Steve is all about the business. You bring your people. We bring ours. We sell out the tour because we booked 800-5500 cap venues intentionally to make the numbers work in our favor.
My guess, in the end it will be Steve who forces the issue to save it (or makes the call to cancel it). It’s to his advantage (and Al’s) to save it, but it will be beyond the point of no return if a press release with a new lineup doesn’t go out very soon.
Chris can’t come back because he’s not a saint.
That post I read of Lacey’s was from 43 weeks ago. The negative press was well planned.
She’s been pushing this shit for a lot longer than that.
Yes, since 2010 when she met him on LoA tour and dated him.