great to finally hear I will Refuse, never knew they every did that live! Lots of good sounding bootlegs out there for the land of rape and honey tour, essentially same setlist without i will refuse. The 2 mics do more harm than good, lots of phasing issues.
That was the Ministry sound crew having problems. I thought I made that clear.
I’d like to clarify, this torrent has NO viruses or malware. Like most torrent sites there are dummy/false download buttons however - that do. Make sure you are clicking the correct download button and that your torrent program handles the correctly named download.
I grabbed this on my workstation (windows 7) and had absolutely no issues.
I don’t understand why they’re forcing people to use torrent sites for the bonus material. I’ve just been downloading the remix files that are hosted on the Al Jourgensen website.
Yeah, but to be fair they are getting more exposure putting it in such a venue to those who may be outta the Ministry loop. The past ten years haven’t exactly been the most productive as far as reigning in old/new fans, depending who you ask.
And at least the realization that putting it out for free vs selling maybe at most 200 units of each remix CD is much less biting [laugh]
I don’t understand why they’re forcing people to use torrent sites for the bonus material. I’ve just been downloading the remix files that are hosted on the Al Jourgensen website.
they do this also so that they (the person wanting their files out there) do not have to serve the files to everyone. everyone sharing and serves to everyone else and there is virtually no expense.
[reply]I don’t understand why they’re forcing people to use torrent sites for the bonus material. I’ve just been downloading the remix files that are hosted on the Al Jourgensen website.
they do this also so that they (the person wanting their files out there) do not have to serve the files to everyone. everyone sharing and serves to everyone else and there is virtually no expense.[/reply]
Would it cost Ministry anything to upload the 1989 live recording as a pay-what-you-want release on Bandcamp?
[reply]great to finally hear I will Refuse, never knew they every did that live! Lots of good sounding bootlegs out there for the land of rape and honey tour, essentially same setlist without i will refuse. The 2 mics do more harm than good, lots of phasing issues.
That was the Ministry sound crew having problems. I thought I made that clear.[/reply]
I’m not talking about the sound issues from the venue, i’m talking about the phasing issues from the two mics. I personally would just take one and collapse it to mono, either way it’s awesome you are putting this out and it’s appreciated. [:)]
I don’t use torrents but had to grab these. There’s more in these files than the website.
1-1-89 Live at Oz
So this is the last show from LORAH tour, isn’t it?
Would love to see a bandcamp or alternative way to download this without going through torrents…
This does sound like a real treat, but I’m also not keen on using torrents. The principle is fine, but I don’t want to use them on my PC at work, and my home PC is rather on the old and knackered side.
Would it be bad form for someone to repost this elsewhere? Fair enough if so, but I’d really love to hear it.
Anyway - this does seem like a good idea in general. Kids dig the free stuff, old fans can get on board with rare stuff from the old days… It’s certainly a good sign if Al can even acknowledge anything pre-Mole.
Edit - Re the Bandcamp idea - I’d guess they can’t even suggest anyone pay for the live bootleg - rights issues and all that.
Would it be bad form for someone to repost this elsewhere?
I second this
Just got around to listening to the live show.
Some very cool arrangements, but I’m reminded why I don’t like bootlegs. Always some assholes in the crowd trying to have conversations or hooting stupid stuff.
Also, that one Pailhead song is “No Bunny” not “Nobody”. You’d think Al’s people would have corrected that before distributing it.
I was bummed about the typo. I turned in the corrected files to them last week. So, there was a mix up on that end.
You can fix it yourself easily enough.
Sure, it’s obviously not a big deal.
I keep all my ticket stubs…I have hundreds and hundreds of em…the ones I have from the 80s whether they be club shows or arena shows are all in the range of $5-$15…
I will stop yapping about war for a little while to thank everyone involved in recording and uploading this gem…so I can hear AL yapping about war instead, haha…kind of sad how “In the East where the bear is dancing, in the West where the eagle files” still speaks to current events.
This remains my favorite Ministry tour from documentation I’ve heard / seen (I was still way too young to get admission to any shows that I would have known of), and of course I have a weakness for roller-rinks, especially when they’re the backdrop for an hour-plus of apocalyptic death dance.
LOL-ing at the soundboard chat on “You Know What You Are”…
…when the girl complains “I thought this was supposed to be Ministry” I almost expect her to follow up with “I didn’t paint my nails petal pink to come here and listen to THIS shit!!!”
That’s pretty much the reaction they got when I saw them in '87. They didn’t even play anything off of Twitch or earlier. (except for one Twitch song that was played completely different). It was basically like paying to see one band and a completely different one showed up. Of course, that continued through the years because I remember talking to people after CULatour who basically felt the same way.
I just looked back at the setlist for the 1987 “pre-LORAH tour,” was that the one you saw? That does indeed look like an odd lineup - a Lead Into Gold Song, ‘All Day,’ Revco numbers and yet-to-be-released songs.