Ministry-like career re-assessments

Just make sure you use Faygo to make the fried coke.

Just make sure you use Faygo to make the fried coke.

WHOOP WHOOP!!!

Didn’t Neil Young go “nu-wave” at some point? And didn’t Young also (around the same time) release a retro 50’s themed rock album, classily titled “Everybody’s Rockin”?

Not sure if that qualifies as a “career re-assessment” though or if it was just a case of “seemed like a good idea at the time” before it was quickly brushed under the rug.

A bit like when Kiss went all “Dungeons And Dragons” on us in the early 80’s.

Or when Billy Ray Cyrus went all serious.

Or . . .

Pat Boone “In A Metal Mood”

Or what about Garth Brooks’ inexplicable reinvention of self as CHRIS GAINES?

Or, what about when Stryper tried to come back as “secular”?

Also . . . remember Michael Jackson? He actually started out black.

I don’t know if any of y’all saw that documentary series about Bob Dylan on PBS about 10 years ago, but it was pretty incredible how vehemently pissed the core of his traditional “folk music” fans were when Dylan decided to go rock and had . . . . OH MY GOD, ELECTRIC GUITARS and drums and such. People were just rabidly hating him and it was pretty depressing.

Anyway, Dylan has had a few phases of reinvention, actually. I really like his gospel album “Saved”, by the way.

Bob Dylan going electric is one of the few things I respect him for. I really liked the soundtrack he did for a Kris Kristofferson film. I think it was the same album that spawned “Knocking On Heaven’s Door.” But he’s also done one of the worst albums ever made in the form of “Street Legal.”

Garth Brooks was into that Chris Gaines role pretty damn hard from what I remember. Yeah, it was pretty bad. Kinda similar to one of the Backstreet Boys having a “rock star” alter ego.

As for some other reinventions…

Extreme had by all intents and purposes killed their career with “More Than Words” They then tried going in a heavy direction with the next record, but nobody cared. KISS did the same thing on the last non-makeup album “Revenge.” It was the lesser of the evil reinventions they had done before. (Dynasty, Creatures Of The Night, Songs From The Elder etc).

Faster Pussycat were the epitome of late 80’s hair metal cheese. They disappear for a decade and Taime starts working with Martin Atkins. He then brings the band back as a mix of glam and industrial rock. However, I think this benefited them more than anything.

And then we have countless bands that started out as death metal and turned black metal within a couple years of forming: Darkthrone, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir. However the last 2 are nothing more than black metal band wagon jumpers.

Last but not least, how could we forget Celtic Frost when they put out COLD LAKE!

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Or what about Garth Brooks’ inexplicable reinvention of self as CHRIS GAINES?

He did that for a movie or something like that. It was totally fake.[/reply]

He did it for a movie, but made a real album. The album tanked so hard that the movie was cancelled.

And then we have countless bands that started out as death metal and turned black metal within a couple years of forming: Darkthrone, Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir. However the last 2 are nothing more than black metal band wagon jumpers.

If Cradle Of Filth are “black metal” then my name is Carmalita Esmerelda Escarez Lopez and I work in a nail salon.

Pitchshifter went from Industrial metal with low-pitch vocals very much like Godflesh (but still respected) in the early 90’s then went all electronic punk/alternative rock with hi-pitch vocals. I guess they’re name suits them well.

Some guy had a big 'ol sheet of blotter acid on him when the cops raided the party . . . . so, to hide the evidence, he just swallowed it all . . . like 50 hits or something. Well, as the tale goes, he fried his brain (go figure) and continued his life in a mental institution as a GLASS OF ORANGE JUICE. When the doctors/ nurses try to move him, he screams, “DON’T SPILL ME!!!”

Not sure if that’s true or urban legend, but I love the story.

http://www.snopes.com/horrors/drugs/orange.asp

If Cradle Of Filth are “black metal” then my name is Carmalita Esmerelda Escarez Lopez and I work in a nail salon.

The only one that’s called Cradle Of Filth black metal around here is you, sir. Or should I say mam? If I refer to a band as a group of “black metal band wagon jumpers,” that means they probably only “look the part” (corpsepaint, spikes, black leather and long hair set in a cheap greenscreen video) and don’t really play black metal at all.

Wow, I just came off like a bitchy Goth chick there.

Bob Dylan going electric is one of the few things I respect him for. I really liked the soundtrack he did for a Kris Kristofferson film. I think it was the same album that spawned “Knocking On Heaven’s Door.”

It was Pat Garrett and Billy The Kid, the Sam Peckinpah film. The soundtrack is excellent, indeed.

I think what Eureka is trying to say is that Dani Filth invented blackmetal.

Pitchshifter went from Industrial metal with low-pitch vocals very much like Godflesh (but still respected) in the early 90’s then went all electronic punk/alternative rock with hi-pitch vocals. I guess they’re name suits them well.

Yeah Treponem Pal kind of did the same…