Ministry gassed in Toulouse

josh bradford is not an asshole.maybe he’s tired of not getting paid.

josh bradford is not an asshole.maybe he’s tired of not getting paid.

I don’t think anybody was saying Josh bradford was an asshole. Josh homme, he said, sounds like an asshole. but you are indeed right josh bradford is not an asshole.
Late,
grmpysmrf

sirs. i have known josh bradford, and he be not an asshole.
peace.
he be of good natured canadian blah blah…

(thanks for the corrections)

yeah killface i remember that in tulsa it turns out it was a dumbass friend of mine who set it off by accident (he’s a fan of ministry) he had it in his pocket some tear gas thing but at that one , though they clearted out the venue al say’s “smell that tulsa air” it was completly overwhelming but the band kept playing (till rey left)

Apparently some skinhead threw a gas grenade (or something like that) at the band at the show in Toulouse, after about an hour of music. Al and Tommy were blinded and had to be hospitalized. It is not yet clear if this will affect the rest of the European tour.

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Heh.
Josh HOMME is (possibly) an asshole.
Josh BRADFORD is (definitely) not.

yeah killface i remember that in tulsa it turns out it was a dumbass friend of mine who set it off by accident (he’s a fan of ministry) he had it in his pocket some tear gas thing but at that one , though they clearted out the venue al say’s “smell that tulsa air” it was completly overwhelming but the band kept playing (till rey left)

hahaha… are you serious??

yeah killface i remember that in tulsa it turns out it was a dumbass friend of mine who set it off by accident (he’s a fan of ministry) he had it in his pocket some tear gas thing but at that one , though they clearted out the venue al say’s “smell that tulsa air” it was completly overwhelming but the band kept playing (till rey left)

Funny shit.

Oh my god! I can’t believe that happened! I live in Toulouse and I so wanted to go see that show, but I was working that night. A friend of mine went to the Toulouse show - he didn’t tell me anything about the skinhead. I’m going to ask him as soon as I can. Does anyone know the setlist for that show? Did Al bring out good ol’ “We Believe” by any chance?

Oh my god! I can’t believe that happened! I live in Toulouse and I so wanted to go see that show, but I was working that night. A friend of mine went to the Toulouse show - he didn’t tell me anything about the skinhead. I’m going to ask him as soon as I can. Does anyone know the setlist for that show?

I live in Okrahoma and can tell you the set list:

Let’s Go
The Dick Song
Watch Yourself
Life Is Good
The Last Sucker
No W
Waiting
Worthless
Wrong
Rio Grande Blood
LiesLiesLies
Senor Peligro
Khyber Pass
So What? (maybe)
N.W.O.
Just One Fix
Thieves
Roadhouse Blues
Just Got Paid
Under My Thumb

Did Al bring out good ol’ “We Believe” by any chance?

No.

I live in Okrahoma and can tell you the set list:

I love it.

setlist is slightly modified in europe.
they dont play the covers that burton sang, instead they do wonderful world

but otherwise - yes - thats pretty much it

when i saw them at hellfest the setlist was shorter (being a festival gig and all) and that actually worked well, since we got about 6 new songs and then they went straight into old stuff (nwo, j1f, thieves, so what)

talked to al after the show and asked him why he doesnt play old songs anymore. his reply was along the lines of “the new songs are better at making the crowd jump and i am completely tired of playing burning inside and stigmata every fucking show”. i know most of you wont agree with me, but to me that is actually… fair enough.

I admit that I’m an old-school Ministry fan, but I actually like his recent covers. But I would’ve been so sad if I had heard that they did We Believe in Toulouse. So Al said he was tired of playing Stigmata and Burning Inside over and over again? Then why not play Kaif, Deity, What about Us?, Lay Lady Lay, or other songs they hardly play live?

probably because nobody who recorded those songs with him is in the band anymore…

but that is just conjecture, i didnt actually ask him that. i was drunk anyway, so couldnt really have a coherent conversation for a long time, lol.

oh - and his head isnt any bigger than it used to be.

[url “http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/blabbermouth.net/news.aspx?mode=Article&newsitemID=99932”]MINISTRY’s Toulouse Concert Brings Audience (And Band) To Tears - June 28, 2008 [url “http://www.radiometal.com/”]Radio Metal has posted a new interview with Aaron Rossi in which the MINISTRY drummer discusses the incident that took place on June 24, 2008 at the band’s concert at Havana Café in Toulouse, France. According to the official explanation offered by the group and the venue, MINISTRY’s show had to be stopped after a fan allegedly jumped up on stage and attempted to attack the band with tear gas. However, some fans that attended the concert allege that it was in fact the security personnel’s attitude that led to the incident by using tear gas on the audience. An excerpt from the interview follows.

Radio Metal: I understand there was a problem in Toulouse yesterday. Can you explain the situation?

Aaron Rossi: We probably had a thousand people in the audience, and we knew it was going to be a crazy show. The opening band told us it was like a hundred degrees in there, very hot. We prepared for that — we got more water on stage. We were playing, and the show went very well, but all of a sudden, I saw Tony [Campos, bass] run off stage. Then I saw my drum tech, who was starting to unplug things, and he said, “You have to get out of here.” When he said that, I took a deep breath, but I couldn’t breathe and my eyes started to water. We ran outside, and everybody poured water on our heads and our eyes. They said it was pepper spray or tear gas, something like that. It was pretty scary. We went back out to play again, but one of the fans jumped upon the fence we have on stage and pulled it down. On the other side of the fence was the bass player, Tony, and he was caught underneath the fence. Finally, Al Jourgensen [MINISTRY mainman] said, “No more, this is it.” The crowd was being very disrespectful, and he said, “We’re done, let’s get out of here.” We left as soon as possible.

Radio Metal: So it was Al who decided to stop the show. But what was your opinion?

Aaron Rossi: I love to play, but the conditions of the venue were very bad. There wasn’t much security, and for a final farewell tour, safety is a must, especially for Al. Some of the fans get really crazy. I follow whatever Al says, whatever songs he wants to play, whatever show he wants to do or cancel, I have to go with him. The only other time we had to cancel half-way was in Hamburg, because the audience were throwing cups at us. My drum-riser was covered in beer, and I had cups hitting me. This was disrespectful, so we got out of there.

Radio Metal: It is sad to conclude a MINISTRY tour in France like this. But when you left the stage, did you understand that there was a problem with someone in the audience?

Aaron Rossi: Yeah. You see, in the United States, we had the murder of Dimebag Darrell from PANTERA. Since then, security has to be very tight. We thought we had everything under control, but last night the conditions were just so terrible that it just became unsafe. We poured water on our heads, but Al Jourgensen has dreadlocks, so no matter what he did, it was dripping down into his eyes. I think the fan was just crazy. I heard he was yelling things about God, like, “Where is my God?” and this and that. I want to think that everybody out there is really nice, but you never know, there are some loonies out there.

The complete interview will be published in a few days on [url “http://www.radiometal.com/”]Radio Metal. Meanwhile, you can check out the audio version of this excerpt at [url “http://www.radiometal.com/toulouseministryinterview.php”]this location.

Florian Sliwa, the manager of the band’s European label Underclass, followed MINISTRY’s farewell tour across France. Here is what he had to say about the incident:

“The security staff at the Havana venue could absolutely not have used teargas, simply because it’s forbidden and illegal. If a staff member had used teargas, he would immediately have been fired! However, a guy in the audience used a teargas grenade — I saw it with my own eyes. The grenade, which we managed to find at the end of the show, was very small, just about two inches tall. I was standing on the side of the stage when it all happened, and I saw a member of the security staff grab the guy by the arm, but it was too late. Those who claim that the staff used teargas are lying. To me, the various venues are simply trying to settle their scores.”

Damn. I can understand a fan being angry over a shitty setlist, or even just the end of the band, in general. But I always find it hard to believe how far a person would go for such stupid reasons. The guy might have done it even as a gag? Either way that sucks to hear. And all Al had to do was just take the damn wig off! “nah ah! these dreads are for reals!”.

thanks revco. great find as always.

You mean they’re not going to play “Burning Inside”? That’s it, I’m setting off gas grenades!

Truth be told if what you want out of an audience is to get them to go crazy in the pit the new stuff probably does work better. Honestly, your average metalhead isn’t going to find “We Believe” “Kaif” “Lay Lady Lay” or much of the old stuff very moshable outside of the half dozen tracks that Al’s bored of. It’s not the Ministry I’d want to see but as J said, fair enough.

Goddamn, I can’t get enough of DJ’s Grandpa Boomer posts, haha!

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