Metallica And Lou Reed - Lulu

Gar-bitch. =(

I actually don’t mind St. Anger too much. It’s not the best, but certainly not the worst. I like what they went for with the production. Lulu’s a mess though. Metallica trying to be metallica, which they forgot how to do, while Reed mumbles on. They’re not even on the same page AT ALL. Musically, it goes one way, while Reed wanders around not knowing up from down.

It sounds like Metallica were in one studio recording one album and Lou was in another studio recording a different album.

Then at some point they decided it would be a good idea to whack the two together - like slapping together ham and tomato with a peanut butter and banana sandwich.

I blame Lars - for no other reason than blaming Lars for bad stuff is funny.

Gotta admit though. Some of it has probably got the be some of the heaviest material metallica’s done in a really long time. I’ll give them that.

]- like slapping together ham and tomato with a peanut butter and banana sandwich.

What the fuck, ham and tomato? Peanut butter and banana? Ah right, Australia…

What the fuck, ham and tomato? Peanut butter and banana? Ah right, Australia…

No, Bro! PB and Banana is an American classic. Elvis used to eat these fried all the time.

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What the fuck, ham and tomato? Peanut butter and banana? Ah right, Australia…[/reply]

Of all the people on this forum to be grossed out by stuff other people choose to put in a sandwich and eat…

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DAMN! I just listened to “Frustration”.
This is a kickass track. Even Lou couldn’t wreck it.

Honestly. If you ditched the vocals, you might actually have a pretty good album.

Lou Reed slams down a fifth of tequila and records himself reciting some poetic musings he scribbled down on a notepad twenty years ago. Metallica are jamming aimlessly in the background. Sometimes James atonally mimics what Lou is reciting, by howling like an injured doberman. Lars tepidly beats out a rhythm in between texting his stockbroker and consulting his interior decorator regarding some renovations to his private art gallery. Kirk is testing out a new effects pedal and is practising his scales.

They called the project Lulu and decided to release it because they’re Metallica and they “take risks”. Also their fans are stupid and will buy anything.

The end.

Honestly. If you ditched the vocals, you might actually have a pretty good album.

Agreed. A few of the tracks I actually hope they try in their set next time they tour (as long as Lou is NOT anywhere near the venue).

Lou Reed slams down a fifth of tequila and records himself reciting some poetic musings he scribbled down on a notepad twenty years ago. Metallica are jamming aimlessly in the background. Sometimes James atonally mimics what Lou is reciting, by howling like an injured doberman. Lars tepidly beats out a rhythm in between texting his stockbroker and consulting his interior decorator regarding some renovations to his private art gallery. Kirk is testing out a new effects pedal and is practising his scales.

They called the project Lulu and decided to release it because they’re Metallica and they “take risks”. Also their fans are stupid and will buy anything.

The end.

The negative response is almost unanimous, maybe. And if these are things Lou wrote back in the day, I’ll assume it’s the heroin talking. He sounds like one of those incoherent crazy old-timers who the kids are afraid of. This guy though, is mumbling about a “colored man’s dick” though. [i]

Morbid Angel can rest soundly in the knowledge that they no longer hold the distinction of worst metal album of 2011.

Their techno laced misguided abortion has been soundly trumped by Lou’s bewildering arthouse rants and James and co’s faxed in, tension and dynamics free riff fest.

Just as long as Chris Cornell doesn’t release another dance album between now and Christmas.

All of these abortions are like the 4 Horsemen of the Apocalypse, setting the stage for the return of MINISTRY.

Just listening to “LULU” for the first time, opinions will be highly and undersatndably polarized, but I think it’s an incredible record.

Just listening to “LULU” for the first time, opinions will be highly and undersatndably polarized, but I think it’s an incredible record.

Altogether? Musically, it’s alright. Some of it pretty nice (musically). Lou Reed ruins it for me. Hetfield has moments, but I do without as well. And that’s after actually listening to it a few times ‘trying’ to get it. Musically, though, I’ll give it credit. But because of the vocals, I consider it a terrible album. The lyrics don’t even work. Lou Reed needs to hang it up, I think. Metallica, on the other hand, might still actually have a trick or two up their sleeves though.

If Reed had just written the lyrics and let Hetfield sing them all, or if he’d just stuck to a few spoken word parts, maybe…

But man, he sounds bad. He sounds like Johnny Cash did towards the end, except that Cash could stay in key.

people get old and sound old, it doesn’t mean you get irrelevant, I think you have to accept the way lou Reed sounds, it’s pretty ugly, but pretty amazing

I get what you’re saying, Chris. And in some cases such inevitable oldness can add a richness and level of soulfulness that is really special and unique (the last CASH records are a great example).

I think the Lou Reed stuff doesn’t piss me off so much because of the sonic quality of his voice or the particular sound and tone, but that it just comes across as really lazy. Like he’s just spitting out whatever comes to his head and he’s not even trying to sound decent. The rhythms and cadence are all jacked and he doesn’t seem to be making any effort to blend his vocals with the music in any sort of relevant key or anything.

I think if this record had been done with Iggy Pop instead of Lou Reed it would have been a really special album. But, like other posters have noted, Lou Reed really ruins it for me.