Alice may be pushing 70, but he still sounds much better than manson. Manson is just a drunken, doped up zombie clown. So for a guy like Alice to still be able to pull off solid shows at his age compared to a burnout in his 40s, that says enough. But in that case, does “enough” really matter?
Manson threads: The bane of prongs existence…
I know you “jive cats” are old, but stop talking about Alice Pooper in my thread where we hail the genius of Marilyn!
Alice Cooper was great in Prince of Darkness…and on the Muppet Show…
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Heck yeah! Two great appearances from Alice.
His biggest fault was touring with that pale-faced sack of crap, Marlon Munson. It’s the only reason I didn’t see him on the last tour. I’ll just wait for him to come back by himself again.
His other big mistake was appearing in SGT. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
By “Marilyn Manson is a genius” do you mean “Marilyn Manson was a genius for a couple of years but is now a washed up retard”?
His other big mistake was appearing in SGT. Pepper’s Lonely Hearts Club Band.
I loved him in that…that film is a “so bad,it’s good” film for me…I know it’s total shit but my sister and I must have watched it 100 times growing up…it’s so awful in so many ways that I can’t tear my eyes away from it when it’s on…can you imagine how much good uncut blow the producers of that film were on…“ok we’ll get the Bee gees,Peter Frampton,Aerosmith,Alice Cooper,George Burns,Steve Martin,Donald Pleasance,some hot black chicks and a slew of others and make a musical covering Beatles tunes…snort,snort…man,this is some pure shit”
Aerosmith made that whole travesty worth it. Also, Frampton’s version of The Long and Winding Road wasn’t that bad.
By “Marilyn Manson is a genius” do you mean “Marilyn Manson was a genius for a couple of years but is now a washed up retard”?
No. I mean that he is a genius.
Interestingly enough, this collaboration with Gucci Mane began that infamous night when Marilyn again defied expectations and dazzled the world by literally disappearing in a cloud of smoke as he left the Spring Breakers premiere. (The incident which sparked this thread). That was the night he met Mr. Mane and another chapter in genius was born.
[reply]By “Marilyn Manson is a genius” do you mean “Marilyn Manson was a genius for a couple of years but is now a washed up retard”?
No. I mean that he is a genius.
Interestingly enough, this collaboration with Gucci Mane began that infamous night when Marilyn again defied expectations and dazzled the world by literally disappearing in a cloud of smoke as he left the Spring Breakers premiere. (The incident which sparked this thread). That was the night he met Mr. Mane and another chapter in genius was born.[/reply]
Only joking, well semi-joking, i was a huge fans years ago but stopped listening a while back. I always hope for something good from him again in the future, but this one doesn’t really interest me to be honest, i’m not really a rap fan.
Aerosmith made that whole travesty worth it. Also, Frampton’s version of The Long and Winding Road wasn’t that bad.
Dude,if you look at that film through the eyes of coked up Hollywood producers it is a load of fun…
I’d say Alice is more than relevant in this thread considering Manson ripped off his schtick. But, then again, I suppose you can probably mention quite a few names in that regard.
Those of you still croaking on about Manson stealing Alice Cooper’s makeup kit. Yes, you’re old. We know.
The new generation only knows Cooper as a cheesey 80s hair metal icon.
And the new new generation only knows Manson as a cheesy goth metal icon.
Who has inherited the shock throne? Lady Gaga? But she’s just Madonna. I guess Tyler the Creator because he says “faggot” 10x per song. That must be original,right? OH WAIT! Isn’t that a Prongs “thing”?? I guess he must have stolen your schtick~!
Haters! Manson will take a gothic licorice-flavored dump on your face before disappearing in a cloud of dry ice to piss on your granny’s grave.
I don’t give a shit who he ripped off. I mean, Manson has always been pretty open and honest about his influences. I’m barely hanging on as a fan though.
He’s a cliche and a complete joke now. Most people who actually remember him or are aware that he’s still “making music” don’t take him seriously at all. The most shocking thing he could do is stop sucking and making an ass out of himself.
He ruined his last album. His vocals fucking killed anything good about that record. Way too high and up front in the mix and his constant croaking, howling, and adding Hetfield like "Ah"s after ever word are obnoxious. That and he cannot sing worth a shit anymore. So when the centerpiece is pushed forward and can no longer do it’s job it fucks everything else up. He needs to take a long break. Get his shit together. Take some vocal lessons and come back when he has something to say.
He ruined his last album. His vocals fucking killed anything good about that record. Way too high and up front in the mix and his constant croaking, howling, and adding Hetfield like "Ah"s after ever word are obnoxious. That and he cannot sing worth a shit anymore. So when the centerpiece is pushed forward and can no longer do it’s job it fucks everything else up. He needs to take a long break. Get his shit together. Take some vocal lessons and come back when he has something to say.
Babble babble bitch bitch. Yeah alcoholism and drug addiction are weighing on him but I still prefer his new output to, say, the new NIN record. With Manson I can really feel his emotions. With Trent I often get this poser vibe that leaves me cold in both the music and the vocals.
I think ‘Born Villain’ was pretty good, not mindblowing, but far from a terrible album. I do see how his vocals have become too stylized and self-indulgent. As far as the mixing…I guess. I didn’t really bother me. They just need a producer from outside the gang to helm things properly.
This track definitely rocked though, don’t know how you could argue if you’re a fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcZ4lAtz2ac
I’m not sure what Manson would be like if he cleaned up. Yeah it might be a great move at this point. He’d change drastically, that’s for sure. I think he’s a great artist who got too caught up in catering to his fans, but not growing with them, and stayed pretty static over the years.
I’d love to hear him do like a delta blues kind of album with a good producer and be more serious as a vocalist.
I wonder if anyone has ever said ‘Flush the Fashion’ or 'Dada was their favorite Alice albums…
They’re both great albums. Both 1000 times greater than Anti Christ Whoop De Doo Look At Me I’m Shocking All The Conservatives And Ripping Off Alice Cooper, David Bowie And Bauhaus While I’m At It.
I think ‘Born Villain’ was pretty good, not mindblowing, but far from a terrible album.
considering eat me drink set the bar below sea level, everything he does after should be mind blowing and eons above “pretty good.”
Bryan warner should thank god every day for the 90’s cause without that decade he’s living at home and torturing rats with a hacksaw and pulling the wings of of flys.
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply]He ruined his last album. His vocals fucking killed anything good about that record. Way too high and up front in the mix and his constant croaking, howling, and adding Hetfield like "Ah"s after ever word are obnoxious. That and he cannot sing worth a shit anymore. So when the centerpiece is pushed forward and can no longer do it’s job it fucks everything else up. He needs to take a long break. Get his shit together. Take some vocal lessons and come back when he has something to say.
Babble babble bitch bitch. Yeah alcoholism and drug addiction are weighing on him but I still prefer his new output to, say, the new NIN record. With Manson I can really feel his emotions. With Trent I often get this poser vibe that leaves me cold in both the music and the vocals.
I think ‘Born Villain’ was pretty good, not mindblowing, but far from a terrible album. I do see how his vocals have become too stylized and self-indulgent. As far as the mixing…I guess. I didn’t really bother me. They just need a producer from outside the gang to helm things properly.
This track definitely rocked though, don’t know how you could argue if you’re a fan:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lcZ4lAtz2ac
I’m not sure what Manson would be like if he cleaned up. Yeah it might be a great move at this point. He’d change drastically, that’s for sure. I think he’s a great artist who got too caught up in catering to his fans, but not growing with them, and stayed pretty static over the years.
I’d love to hear him do like a delta blues kind of album with a good producer and be more serious as a vocalist.[/reply]
Emotions? It’s the same whiny shit as his past two albums (when it actually has coherent emotions or seems sincere) along with some weak wordplay and attempts at seeming aware and “artsy”. It’s half-assed when compared to anything he did pre GAOG. And when I pay for something I expect it to be anything but half-assed and that goes for his terrible live shows too. The fat, coke-up fuck can barely breathe much less scream or attempt to sing anymore.
I don’t give a shit about how you feel about NIN. This is about Manson. Completely unrelated and totally different artists now. One is a fat drunk with no integrity who has become everything he was against and one has gotten his shit together and managed to remain relevant and not relied on trying to “shock” people over and over again. One is respected the other is either forgotten or mocked. I grew up liking both but only respect one of the two anymore. But that’s irrelevant here, yeah? For Manson’s sake (who you’re defending) just say, “yes”.
One song with some balls and while I like it, it’s sounds insincere and like the token “heavy” song on the album that was made for no other purpose than being just that - the heavy song on the album. There’s no real anger behind it. It’s just a shitty drum sample with some thoughtless guitars and yelling thrown over the sub-par lyrics.
He needs to change drastically because what he’s been doing hasn’t worked. It’s been a drastic failure. So he needs to take drastic measures or fuck off. His fans are dropping like flies as are the people who even remember who the fuck he is. I don’t see him ever getting it back together but I’d love to be wrong on this one. He used to seem smart but he seems like a complete moron now. Like legit retarded or brain damaged from drugs and alcohol. I cringe at his interview but I used to be impressed by what he had to say.
I thought Manson would never do anything that made him look quite as idiotic as “Heart-Shaped Glasses” did. Guess he proved me wrong.