[reply]Every few months someone posts something about Manson, followed by a chorus of a few who are interested and a greater chorus of people saying “Manson fucking sucks”.
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Can’t we do both? Perhaps we could talk about Manson’s exes, all of whom are totally hawt.
I thought he was fun and crazy for a while. His live shows were pretty terrific. I went to Ozzfest in 1996 and everyone hated him, it was terrific. I liked his book too.
once he puts on another 30 pounds all those scars on his chest and stomach from cutting himself are really gonna look fucking nasty on top of his big giggly gut…
he’s back together with even wood again too… in some recent interview he commented on how she’s going to be the inspiration for his next cd… i’m noticing a pattern of these last few cds inspired by his girlfriends all being subpar
I guarantee at least half of you going on about how “fat” he is now are just as fat or worse. He’s a 40 year old man with a swollen midsection. It happens.
As for his new album about Evan Rachel Wood, I’d like to see that quote. He said it would be “romantic” (which did make me cringe) but I’m pretty sure he never said that…
I agree the whole love sick thing is old and doesn’t work for him on so many levels. that it just seems absurd for him to do. And yet 2 albums later…
Let’s just hope this won’t be the third. It’s starting to look like MM’s very own Bush Trilogy…“The Vagina Trilogy”
He can be the diet version of Robert Smith, only just less talented… His last two and the new one are a vagina trilogy, heh. If he does another Heart Shaped Glasses he should just be shot. Cool sounding song, but the lyrics were just fucking retarded.
I guarantee at least half of you going on about how “fat” he is now are just as fat or worse. He’s a 40 year old man with a swollen midsection. It happens.
Eh… thats one thing that shits me about this place, for a bunch of people who pat themselves on the back for listening to “difficult” music and seem to generally hold themselves as open minded etc… most of you seem to make derogatory remarks towards “fat” people, or even think it’s humorous to mock them.
Wtf… it’s like letting out a fart and trying to wave it in someones face.
I don’t want an answer, but will probably get one anyway, but what is the insecurity that people have that they feel the need to mock fat people? Is there something in your lives that makes you feel that bad, that you need to resort to the lowest common denominator and go “well, fat people are already aware of their weight and might feel bad about it, lets just cement that in right now… well golly, now I don’t feel so bad about beating my wife”.
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For the record, I have had fluctuating weight all my life, and am currently “overweight” but have also recently been underweight - I’m about 6" and weighed about 60Kgs… I much prefer having some meat on my bones so I don’t feel so bloody weak all the time.
the vagina trilogy is funny, heheheh
I’m pretty sure people just notice that he’s fat because he used to be so lean looking and fit. People notice when you’re a performer and you put on weight. I could care less that he’s fat. I thought he started sucking heavily when he was still thin. My brother who commented on his weight after seeing him was just making a simple observation. My brother has probably never heard more than Beautiful People or Sweet Dreams from Manson, so it’s an outsider’s observation.
I’m not fat.
The problem is, Manson’s a rock star. He’s not a musician. A musician can get fat and nobody cares. See: David Gilmour.
But if you’re a rock star, part of your job is to look good, or at least to look like you fit the image that you have created for yourself. So when someone who built a career out of being young and thin and sexual turns doughy and flabby, it’s notable. See also: Elvis
Oh yeah, I totally understand that. It’s like if we saw a recent pic of the totally awesome Paul Barker and he had a put on a few kilos it would warrant some comments because we’re used to the guy being tall and skinny. Totally.
I was more referring to the people who are along the lines of “hurr, he needs to get his fat-ass back to mcdonalds, because he’s FAT, and thats where FAT people go because they iz all shit, did I mention he’s FAT and thats hilarious”
In high school I was the reverse - I was “mocked” for being so skinny. So skinny I didn’t even have calf muscles. I was a total weakling. And to make matters worse I am over 6ft, so it stood out a lot more. Nobody - and I do mean NOBODY - wanted to be friends. It was quite awful.
Now I’m 36 and I have to watch my weight. Up until recently I was a gym junkie and quite muscular. But now I’ve lost the desire to keep going, which is the worst thing I could do. Go to the gym for years and suddenly stop going - you are going to pack on the pounds because you are still feeding your body mass the same way you would be when you were excercising. However, now you’re not burning those calories. And to make matters worse I earn a living by sitting in front of a computer all day.
I’m now lucky that I’m tall because I can easily hide any extra pounds that I may pile on. Stupid junk food. If it’s so bad for you why then does it smell so good!?!?!? Coffee and donuts are my big weakness. Other than that, I’m not too bad. But I do the drive thru takeaway thing more than I should - probably once a week.
it’s the whole elvis syndrome. early on cute and thin, later on fat and sweaty…
it’s more or less said by me in jest, i could give a shit on a person’s weight… doesn’t change who they are as a person. which in manson’s case is a slightly pudgy coke head (somehow that’s possible)
personally i’m 6’1 and weigh around 130-135 so i’m very in need of a burger. we’re all fucked up with something people can make fun of us about
but back to manson, we’d be just as much commenting on him if he went bald (ahem) or lost a toe or whatever… doesn’t mean we’re predjudice against amputee’s or baldees.
and there will always be manson talk in the industrial and goth circles. the kids that got into the scene with him around 15 years old are the ones now in their early to mid 20’s playing in bands and going to the clubs. gotta start somewhere before you become hardcore
The fat thing with Manson is different because he’s put on weight due to excess and laziness, like Elvis. It’s people who have not been fat people letting themselves go and it is disconcerting. People will comment on it as it is a natural reaction to physical decline in someone just as is aging, etc. This is biology, appreciation of the fittest. Manson has garnered a great deal of attention due to his physical appearance since the 90s (goth queen or whatever). It’s only natural to comment on his now chubbier state. He can hardly expect people to lord it over him in 1999 and then tell them to avert their eyes now as he’s a bit fatter… which I don’t think he is doing, is he?
It’s different when it is someone who is, say, born to fat people or has the genetic make up of a history of fat people or simply has the make up of someone more rounded. For someone like that teasing about their weight is a lot more cruel, esp. as kids. But the truth is many fat people are fat because of poor diets and poor exercise and that in my opinion does not merit sympathy, unless of course a child is fat due to reckless parenting allowing or helping the child to become a butterball. Natural selection causes society to look down their noses at obese people, for valid reasons.
Some people can weather weight better than others. Its more marked with Manson as he was slim and has not been a fat person in the public eye. People don’t really care as much about the fatness of public figures who have always been fat.
@Stairwell: 6’ and weighing 60kgs is extremely underweight, I’m 6’ and am somewhere around 80kgs and I’m healthy, ie. not too fat.
In high school I was the reverse - I was “mocked” for being so skinny. So skinny I didn’t even have calf muscles. I was a total weakling. And to make matters worse I am over 6ft, so it stood out a lot more. Nobody - and I do mean NOBODY - wanted to be friends. It was quite awful.
See, all you had to do was become the lead singer in a band and you’d have had hot and cold running chicks.
[reply]The fat thing with Manson is different because he’s put on weight due to excess and laziness, like Elvis. It’s people who have not been fat people letting themselves go and it is disconcerting. People will comment on it as it is a natural reaction to physical decline in someone just as is aging, etc. This is biology, appreciation of the fittest. Manson has garnered a great deal of attention due to his physical appearance since the 90s (goth queen or whatever). It’s only natural to comment on his now chubbier state. He can hardly expect people to lord it over him in 1999 and then tell them to avert their eyes now as he’s a bit fatter… which I don’t think he is doing, is he?
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not to mention manson was a band/man that put alot of emphasis on the image of the band/albums/videos/shows/etc
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/01/07/marilyn-manson-evan-rache_0_n_415141.html
apparently he proposed to evan on stage monday
Wonder if that video of him killing a look-a-like was their cute way of flirting in public? Sure makes a great engagement gift, “Hey Evan honey, here’s a shitty snuff movie-esque video of me killing you, will you marry me?” “Oh Marilyn, you think of everything, of course I’ll marry you. At least if you lose 25 pounds I will.”
Just wondering, but how many people dogged on AL
for pudging up? He has nothing on Manson! I see
a little paunch that he could wear off nailing his “fiancee’”.