Are you also one of those idiots that think the Trade Center was brought down by terrorists and that NASA actually put a man on the moon? HAHAHAHAHA!!! Jackass.
You actually believe that tornado acted on its own? You do, don’t you? Pfft, typical ignorant sheeple.
Open your eyes, Man!
Wait until you guys see my new youtube video I’m working on where I expose the lies of the government and FEMA camps while using “The Last of the Mohicans” soundtrack and random clips of Nazi soldiers.
Just make sure to also put some pics of various political figures with lizard tongues and teeth or demon horns, and highlight portions on random architecture or product packaging that might look like sixes or eyeballs or something . . . That way I’ll know that you’re serious and know what you’re talking about.
Sorry to go back to this but this statement by Lord_of_Lard annoys me:
it just bothers me when people focus on all the negative in the muslim world. i mean there are almost 2 billion of them, of course there are going to be thousands of crazies.
There’s good reason to focus on all the negativity in the “muslim world” simply because their book is filled with it. Those people may be crazy but they are the ones who are following exactly the sort of violent, intolerance the Quran preaches:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/quran/023-violence.htm
Like “moderate” Christians and people of most all faiths, “moderate” Muslims cherry pick what to follow and what to conveniently ignore in their oh-so-important holy book.
Well, even as an atheist I can see there’s a difference between following said book literally and entirely and moderates that take to heart the basic message of the faith without adhering to shit clearly written to apply to people living thousands of years ago.
Well, even as an atheist I can see there’s a difference between following said book literally and entirely and moderates that take to heart the basic message of the faith without adhering to shit clearly written to apply to people living thousands of years ago.
Why? I’m an atheist as well but I think if the book you live your life by says you should do something it doesn’t matter how utterly fucking ancient and barbaric it is. You say you’re a Muslim I’m going to start assuming you believe everything your fucking book preaches. Same with Christians and any other faith. This PC bullshit has gotten us nowhere.
Do we treat any other group this way? Someone says they’re a Nazi but doesn’t subscribe to the belief that the Aryan race is particularly better than others. So, Nazism isn’t that bad, right? Just a few bad apples.
Just look at how Christians still treat homosexuals in the U.S. It’s fucking barbaric bullshit and ridiculous reasoning. Look at how they rationalize “climate change” (assuming they even believe in it). Look at how long it took before women received equal rights (and that’s still debatable). Look at slavery and how the Christian god was used as a reason/excuse for it. There are so many terrible things religion has done but because some groups aren’t fully subscribed to their chosen god’s word we pretend the religion as a whole isn’t all that bad. It’s a cop-out.
[reply]Well, even as an atheist I can see there’s a difference between following said book literally and entirely and moderates that take to heart the basic message of the faith without adhering to shit clearly written to apply to people living thousands of years ago.
Why? I’m an atheist as well but I think if the book you live your life by says you should do something it doesn’t matter how utterly fucking ancient and barbaric it is. You say you’re a Muslim I’m going to start assuming you believe everything your fucking book preaches. Same with Christians and any other faith. This PC bullshit has gotten us nowhere.
Do we treat any other group this way? Someone says they’re a Nazi but doesn’t subscribe to the belief that the Aryan race is particularly better than others. So, Nazism isn’t that bad, right? Just a few bad apples.
Just look at how Christians still treat homosexuals in the U.S. It’s fucking barbaric bullshit and ridiculous reasoning. Look at how they rationalize “climate change” (assuming they even believe in it). Look at how long it took before women received equal rights (and that’s still debatable). Look at slavery and how the Christian god was used as a reason/excuse for it. There are so many terrible things religion has done but because some groups aren’t fully subscribed to their chosen god’s word we pretend the religion as a whole isn’t all that bad. It’s a cop-out.[/reply]
Yeah you basically summed up my beliefs as well on the topic. I tend not to associate with religious people. The whole thing is a crock of shit, especially Islam.
[reply]Well, even as an atheist I can see there’s a difference between following said book literally and entirely and moderates that take to heart the basic message of the faith without adhering to shit clearly written to apply to people living thousands of years ago.
Why? I’m an atheist as well but I think if the book you live your life by says you should do something it doesn’t matter how utterly fucking ancient and barbaric it is. You say you’re a Muslim I’m going to start assuming you believe everything your fucking book preaches. Same with Christians and any other faith. This PC bullshit has gotten us nowhere.
Do we treat any other group this way? Someone says they’re a Nazi but doesn’t subscribe to the belief that the Aryan race is particularly better than others. So, Nazism isn’t that bad, right? Just a few bad apples.
Just look at how Christians still treat homosexuals in the U.S. It’s fucking barbaric bullshit and ridiculous reasoning. Look at how they rationalize “climate change” (assuming they even believe in it). Look at how long it took before women received equal rights (and that’s still debatable). Look at slavery and how the Christian god was used as a reason/excuse for it. There are so many terrible things religion has done but because some groups aren’t fully subscribed to their chosen god’s word we pretend the religion as a whole isn’t all that bad. It’s a cop-out.[/reply]
But a lot of Christians and Muslims don’t do everything their holy books tell them to do. A number of religious sects within explicitly say this. If some Christian is wearing a mix of wool and linen, you gonna say “YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE! YOU’RE NOT FOLLOWING ALL OF YOUR FAITH’S RULES!”?
As for your other points, it’s not as cut and dried as “Christians hate gays/promoted slavery/justified things in God’s name” because it’s not as though secular humanism throughout Western Europe abolished slavery. We are just now seeing nations and cultures that are either agnostic or religious apathetic. Positing what women’s rights would be in a world sans religion is pointless speculation.
I also love when people bitch about political correctness.
[reply][reply]Well, even as an atheist I can see there’s a difference between following said book literally and entirely and moderates that take to heart the basic message of the faith without adhering to shit clearly written to apply to people living thousands of years ago.
Why? I’m an atheist as well but I think if the book you live your life by says you should do something it doesn’t matter how utterly fucking ancient and barbaric it is. You say you’re a Muslim I’m going to start assuming you believe everything your fucking book preaches. Same with Christians and any other faith. This PC bullshit has gotten us nowhere.
Do we treat any other group this way? Someone says they’re a Nazi but doesn’t subscribe to the belief that the Aryan race is particularly better than others. So, Nazism isn’t that bad, right? Just a few bad apples.
Just look at how Christians still treat homosexuals in the U.S. It’s fucking barbaric bullshit and ridiculous reasoning. Look at how they rationalize “climate change” (assuming they even believe in it). Look at how long it took before women received equal rights (and that’s still debatable). Look at slavery and how the Christian god was used as a reason/excuse for it. There are so many terrible things religion has done but because some groups aren’t fully subscribed to their chosen god’s word we pretend the religion as a whole isn’t all that bad. It’s a cop-out.[/reply]
But a lot of Christians and Muslims don’t do everything their holy books tell them to do. A number of religious sects within explicitly say this. [/reply]
That’s really the point they’re making. If they really were “Christians” they would be following that shit to the letter. What you have now-a-days is a bastardized version of Christianity. People that pick and choose the “important” words of God, thus rendering God irrelevant in some capacity depending on which “faith” you follow. If God’s word is important then All of God’s words are important not just the ones you find convenient.
If some Christian is wearing a mix of wool and linen, you gonna say “YOU FUCKING HYPOCRITE! YOU’RE NOT FOLLOWING ALL OF YOUR FAITH’S RULES!”?
Most people wouldn’t give a shit unless it’s to point out how Christians aren’t obedient to their God, when it comes to something as simple as dressing themselves.
As for your other points, it’s not as cut and dried as “Christians hate gays/promoted slavery/justified things in God’s name” because it’s not as though secular humanism throughout Western Europe abolished slavery.
Secular Humanism Totally abolished Slavery. Religion was used as a way to keep slaves. Organized religion has been a bane on Society for eons!
We are just now seeing nations and cultures that are either agnostic or religious apathetic.
For instance?
Positing what women’s rights would be in a world sans religion is pointless speculation.
True to a point, It would also depend on what economic system was in place and what kind of values the society holds.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Wait so does this mean that grmpy you agree with me and Atom on something? This new development could very well usher in the apocalypse…
Wait so does this mean that grmpy you agree with me and Atom on something? This new development could very well usher in the apocalypse…
Totally on all accounts… Fate knew this day would come when we were getting our 4 horses ready.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Wow… well, Grumpy pretty much summed up what my response to your post was going to be, VicSavage.
I think I hear the thunder of horses in the distance.
Yeah you basically summed up my beliefs as well on the topic. I tend not to associate with religious people. The whole thing is a crock of shit, especially Islam.
I have no problem associating with religious people because, as I said, most of them cherry pick which parts of their holy book are important to live by. Unless their beliefs infringe on my rights or have any impact on the lives of other people, then I treat them like I would anyone else. But most all religions encourage, if not demand, their followers to spread their beliefs and convert others. So, it can be difficult once you do get to know someone who is dedicated to their faith.
When I moved from California to North Carolina I was a bit shocked at how many churches there are and how open people are about their religious beliefs (well, those who follow Christianity anyway). People telling me, “May god bless you.” after a brief exchange and random people handing me pamphlets or little calendar cards with bible quotes on them, bumper stickers on what seems like every vehicle advertising “Elevation Church”. It’s so bizarre to me and I doubt I’ll ever get used to it.
When I moved from California to North Carolina
Oh you’re living in North Carolina? I’m so sorry.
NORTH CAROLINA! CMON AND RAISE UP! TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF AND SPIN IT ROUND THE AIR LIKE A HELICOPTER!
Who cares.
Psssshhhh I’m in Texas. You aint seen shit xD
I drove through a massive cattle farm called like “Bush Ranch” or something when I went through Texas. It was the most potent, foul, smell. You couldn’t not breathe it in. There was a nasty greenish haze too.
Other than that Texas was super nice but I was only there for a day. Arkansas, I think it was, was the worst place I’ve ever been to in my life. America’s asshole. Humid, smelly, ugly, people are morons, mosquitoes everywhere. Fuck that place.