Let the Paul Barker suck fest ensue...

http://digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_metal-bassists.html

Well looky looky at number 54 :smiley:

Just how many freaking bassists have Morbid Angel had anyway?

Just how many freaking bassists have Morbid Angel had anyway?

more than are on this list actually…

but how the fuck does christian from Fear Factory get on here? he only plays bass on 1 and a half albums, and they are the boring ones! dino played all the bass on the early stuff, and he wasnt in the band for mechanize…

though it is a nice thing to see the same three bassists on EVERY list of bassists ever on the top of this one, i would have had a heart attack if they werent there. thats like a best band ever list without the beatles, or a best songs ever list without stairway.

(i am winking)

That looks like a silly list to me. Paul D’Amour played on an EP and one LP and he gets 60? I’m not saying he’s a bad bass player but it seems like they just want to throw bass players from bands they like into the mix as opposed to notable bass players.

No Ben from Godflesh is just stupid.

No Raven or Youth?

Not even a mention of Pete Steele or even even that chick from White Zombie.

That looks like a silly list to me. Paul D’Amour played on an EP and one LP and he gets 60? I’m not saying he’s a bad bass player but it seems like they just want to throw bass players from bands they like into the mix as opposed to notable bass players.

No Ben from Godflesh is just stupid.

No Raven or Youth?

Good call on Benny and Peter…

Not even a mention of Pete Steele or even even that chick from White Zombie.

well to be fair, hermes pan as a bass player is neither innovative nor super-technical nor melodic and not that well-known, there’s really nothing special about his bass lines in ministry or ussa. since that is a bass player list (and those lists are always kind of b.s. anyway) and not list of ā€˜overall as musician’, its doesn’t really matter.

if you look into ministry bass guitar parts and start playing them, you’re gonna be bored fast. then again, there’s hardly any room for anything special bass-wise in ministry songs, so he did his stuff perfectly in the limits of the genre ministry (or any side project) was in.

he’s great sound-wise though and for me there’s alot of his shining moments. ā€˜tonight we murder’, playing on top of synth bass, as well as ā€˜we believe’ (live version only). tons of really ugly tones on filth pig/dark side/animositisomina tracks.

my favourite paul bass line is probably ā€˜step’, especially the extended version that was never released, it’s just outrageous. favourite ā€˜barker’-ish track is probably ā€˜leper’, just because it has 2 different bass tracks playing at the same time (one droning and other is the main cannibal song type variation in the first half of the song) and the atmosphere they create and then in second half it’s full on distorted with some neat slides here and there.

his tones and parts define classic revco albums for me (bsq and lfg), as well as some other side projects, they were fukin’ pumping, and ain’t that the goal? we all have seen what ministry and revco turned into since his departure in 2004. so i guess unlike some guy (that we all know) once said ā€œhe was just a fuckin’ bass playerā€, that’s not the case.

besides, he was the only guy with super cool looking ribcage bass !!

Paul’s basslines are great BECAUSE they’re simple.
Stainless Steel Providers is two notes, but it’ll get stuck in your head as firmly as any pop vocal hook. That’s why he’s on there.

Agreed, one of the reason I love Paul’s bass playing in Ministry is it’s extremely stripped down and still pulls a great line thru each track.

And this list is total shit, yes.

Twiggy Ramirez (Marilyn Manson) should def. be on that list/

Twiggy Ramirez (Marilyn Manson) should def. be on that list/

He’s #56 listed as Jeordie White
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Gila, you need to listen to the bassline of Creep and soak it in. Also, Golden Dawn’s bass is incredible. LORAH needs to get remastered cause I want to hear that fuckin’ bass.

Gila, you need to listen to the bassline of Creep and soak it in. Also, Golden Dawn’s bass is incredible. LORAH needs to get remastered cause I want to hear that fuckin’ bass.

i think you didn’t soak in what i actually wrote about bass parts defining classic revco albums for me. its funny how you mention creep and get down since they both have a loop of one bar (or maybe two bars) for 8 and 13 minutes but both track end suddenly thus creating this nice hypnotic effect but when they end suddenly you wake up.

as for lorah, original master is fine. you won’t hear much bass guitar there cuz most of the album is actually synth bass. and its perfectly audible… except fukkin hizbollah but its supposed to be like that and the bridge section in the missing i cant really figure out. if that album would be remastered today it would be one compressed brickwall …

well to be fair, hermes pan as a bass player is neither innovative nor super-technical nor melodic and not that well-known, there’s really nothing special about his bass lines in ministry or ussa. since that is a bass player list (and those lists are always kind of b.s. anyway) and not list of ā€˜overall as musician’, its doesn’t really matter.

if you look into ministry bass guitar parts and start playing them, you’re gonna be bored fast. then again, there’s hardly any room for anything special bass-wise in ministry songs, so he did his stuff perfectly in the limits of the genre ministry (or any side project) was in.

I don’t know man. Barker being in Ministry had a huge influence on industrial rock. The Al and Paul due was pretty influential I’d say.

[reply]Twiggy Ramirez (Marilyn Manson) should def. be on that list/

He’s #56 listed as Jeordie White
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]

Whoa!!! Check this out! The Smurf is schooling Voidhead on Mansonology! I’m just surprised he’s doing it so non-chalantly and not firing off flare guns and sticking his ass in Void’s face while doing it. Is this the beginning of a new era? The kinder, gentler Smurf? I sure friggin’ hope not!

It’s nice to see Jeff Becerra of Possessed and Necrobutcher of Mayhem get some recognition but I call bullshit on this list for one reason:

WHERE THE FUCK IS LEMMY!!!

Also, they had no right in putting Tyr from Emperor on that list. The guy was only a live member. If your gonna put any bassist from Emperor on there it should be Ihsahn.

[reply][reply]Twiggy Ramirez (Marilyn Manson) should def. be on that list/

He’s #56 listed as Jeordie White
Late,
grmpysmrf[/reply]

Whoa!!! Check this out! The Smurf is schooling Voidhead on Mansonology! I’m just surprised he’s doing it so non-chalantly and not firing off flare guns and sticking his ass in Void’s face while doing it. Is this the beginning of a new era? The kinder, gentler Smurf? I sure friggin’ hope not![/reply]
I meant ā€œstupid ass!!ā€ I meant to write ā€œstupid assā€ at the end of my sentence. I swear honest I forgot stupid ass!!!
void’s a stupid ass!!
Shit my cover was almost blown.
Late,
grmpysmrf

It’s nice to see Jeff Becerra of Possessed and Necrobutcher of Mayhem get some recognition but I call bullshit on this list for one reason:

WHERE THE FUCK IS LEMMY!!!

Also, they had no right in putting Tyr from Emperor on that list. The guy was only a live member. If your gonna put any bassist from Emperor on there it should be Ihsahn.

Lemmy is at 36 (after a bunch of nobody douchebags). I really don’t give a crap. It’s a crap list put together by some piece of crap who doesn’t know crap about crap. Crap.

Also, they had no right in putting Tyr from Emperor on that list. The guy was only a live member. If your gonna put any bassist from Emperor on there it should be Ihsahn.

Only one bass player from Emperor ever mattered.

YES!!! I LOVE Mortiis!!! I didn’t even know he played bass. I just love him on account of his straight up awesomeness. I mean . . . LOOK AT THIS!!! I friggin’ LOVE this guy!


He has a skull on his crotch and he has wings and he flies . . . I rest my case. Anyone who doesn’t like Mortiis should be tortured with the torture of a thousand swords.

#100

Guy from DragonForce

[laugh]