Last Sucker

I stayed away from my ability to grab this album early…
I figured with the man that (coupled with Barker) literally pushed me over the cliff and into taking music as my central life pursuit giving his swan song…I’d avoid any early spoiling.
Take in the anxiousness and what not that comes with a highly awaited release in full. Become all giddy like a little kid awaiting Santa.
And so, I waited until today.

I must say, despite being a cardboard/paper CD cover, it’s one of the most detailed CD cover art pieces I’ve ever encountered. It’s one of the most detailed album art covers I’ve ever encountered period.

I thought there would be a fold out revealing the image of Bush converting into a Reptilian (as I’d already seen the front cover artwork about 2 to 3 months ago)…but NO, it’s actually one of those deals where as you shift the angle that you’re looking at the front of the cover from, he morphs. Similarly, the top header morphs from saying Ministry, to the name of the album (Last Sucker…or More Aptly, “Last SSucker” [With the Nazi “SS”]). At the bottom, there is a morph of a Latin (not sure what it says) phrase and some apparent Greek.

Upon opening, there’s the track Listing, again, the way it’s laid out is pretty darn detailed. On the other side is simply the band credits and special thanks. Another unfold reveals that the cover turns into a pop up image of the last supper. Al is in the center, the rest of the band is mixed in here and there, Bush is in the place of Judas, and others of the Bush administration are mixed in here and there. Above Al is a Christos type figure…doesn’t seem to be Christ, but gives off that effect. Below the Last Supper layout/popup is an assortment of Occult symbology, with a focus on things related to Masonry.

In any regard, from back to front, like I said, probably some of the most, if not the most, detailed cover artwork I’ve ever encountered. A ton of symbology is effectively used through out it.

I was expecting the CD itself to match the cover artwork, and though the printing on the CD worked with the cover artwork, it by no means held up to the same amount of detail or depth of symbolically expressed ideas (the print on the CD is not “singular” persay in what it conveys, but it is singular when compared to everything conveyed in the cover artwork).

Musically, the album comes out blistering.
It’s aggressive as all hell again, in fact, mid way through the album I was feeling mentally worn out.
I will note that there is no drummer this time around at all. All the drum programming was conducted by Jourgensen and one other chap. I have to confess, other electronic musicians should take heed and pull a page or two from their book. It was some of the best drum programming I’ve ever heard. It can be a hard feet to pull of programming drums and consistently pulling off the sound and feel of a human drummer, but this was truly achieved on this album. The drumming is not monotonous in the least of ways, and had I not been aware of the fact that all the drums were programmed, I’d have sworn a human drummer(s) were behind it all (or at least some if it)…they were simply that lively.

Something else worthy of note is Jourgensen made a notable jump in the quality of his lyrics. In all honesty, the lyrical content of the last 2 (arguably 3) Ministry efforts I felt was fairly middle schoolish. It just seemed like stuff written by a 13 year old. It wasn’t the subject matter, it was more so how the subject matter was covered.
This time around, things are a lot more focused and intelligent I think.
That’s not to say they are ACE, simply upped from the total and utter retardation they had been.

I won’t go into a long diatribe on the content of the music itself, but I will go over the a few bits.

First and foremost, I’d like to say I felt the album was a perfect 5 out of 5, but I don’t. It’s good, and I like it, but ultimately, at least with me, Ministry’s greatest would remain tied between Land Of, Mind, and Psalm. I would put Rio below Psalm (and a fair degree lower), and Sucker behind Rio. Out of 5, I’d give it 3 and a half stars.
A solid release, and it has it’s moments, but by no means is it perfect.

The album seemed to lose focus when it hit Road House Blues…which though a decent cover, just didn’t fit at all with what came before it. One thing I will note of this cover is that Ministry truly did make it their own rather than just rehash The Doors in a plain jane (heavier) way. One thing is for certain, I think this may be the hardest and fastest Doors cover ever done.

The song after that (Die In A Crash, I think the name is), though distorted and heavy, truly has a strong post punk feel to it. Tone down the distortion, and a couple other things, and I’d swear it was Special Affect trying to make a come back.

Then comes the epic two part ending “End Of Days”…
This song surprised me…A LOT.
First off, the first part of the song TOTALLY breaks out of the standard 4/4 timing Ministry has pretty much always ran with. Putting the initial shock delivered by the time signatures used aside, I didn’t really care for the first part, which really just continued in the vein of not seeming to fit with the style of things that came before it at all…but then came the second part.
It’s long…10 minutes long (the second part). Simple. But good.
I think some may think the song is a bit too drawn out, but I really was quite satisfied with it.
What makes the second part notably interesting and different from other Ministry bits that have covered social-political affairs is the mere fact that rather than cite something dire and leave it at that…it was as if Jourgensen elected to go with something that would actually leave things on a hopeful note. More of an angle of “Look, things are bad, but we can change them, and here’s some ways we might want to start going about doing that”.
You wouldn’t be able to guess that from the lyrics of the song, as this is all expressed via a sample of a speech (from whom, I’m not sure, but I’m interested in knowing…I couldn’t make out all that was said, but it seemed Chomskyish in some ways, though I’m fairly certain it wasn’t Chomsky speaking).

No, the album isn’t Ministry perfected, but it’s a darn solid release, and I wasn’t disappointed with it. Where End Of Days (Part 2 notably) was concerned, the album ultimately did leave me salivating…
It was just a damn good song, and at it’s conclusion, there was definitely a feeling of wishing. I sat waiting, expecting something to be tucked away after the last listed track again (as this has occurred with the last 2 releases)…but no…not this time. And it was a damn solid conclusion they gave to the album.

Are there Industrial Metal bands doing it better?
No, I truly and really don’t think so. Jourgensen did seem to have a tucked away message in his swan song of, “No one does it like me”.
Is it the most forward pushing Industrial stuff out there.
No, not really…I’ve been more impressed with the likes of Mordant Music and things like the last Download album in that regard.
But it was good, it was Ministry, and it does have me looking forward to the tour. I almost think it’s a given that End Of Days will close out their initial set (pre any encores that is) this tour…the song just seems built for that.

There’s an import still in the wait that features a couple remixes attached to the end of the album…so I’ll be grabbing that as well (and you may want to keep an eye out for it).

Anyhow, for those wanting Filth Pig, you’ll probably be left disappointed. For those wanting Dark Side or Animos…you’ll probably be let down as well.
Though the darker edges of Psalm have been left out (songs like 69, Scarecrow, and Grace), if you liked Psalm, I don’t see how you can’t be satisfied with this one. It’s harder, faster, and dare I say more musically complicated than Psalm (or any previous Ministry album I’d say really), but like Rio, it really seems to pick up the pieces of where Psalm left off.
Working in tow with that statement, those that liked Rio, will probably be satisfied as well.
Those that liked Houses…well, this one has more of the guitar solo bits than Rio, but they aren’t as abundant as they were on Houses…it’s faster and harder than Houses and there’s more of an “industrial” element than what Houses exhibited (in regard to metallic like percussions and other such sample types)…so who knows, you might like it you might not.

Anyhow, even though there is still an album of covers on the way. Looks like this is the end of the road as far as actual new Ministry material is concerned.

[#ff4040][size 4]I constantly fear everything I see
Blood is the fist of authority
Pestilence is my rabid dog unchained
Another road sign marks the end of days
I disregard those who govern me
I hate all of this treachery
I numb my mind and try to walk away
Toward the trail of tears and to the end of days
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Goodbye Ministry. It was an enduring and interesting ride.

You wouldn’t be able to guess that from the lyrics of the song, as this is all expressed via a sample of a speech (from whom, I’m not sure, but I’m interested in knowing…I couldn’t make out all that was said, but it seemed Chomskyish in some ways, though I’m fairly certain it wasn’t Chomsky speaking).

It’s Eisenhower http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

I got mine at Best Buy, and apparently there are a couple of exclusive bonus tracks. One is an industrialized remix of “Watch Yourself,” and the other is a kind of dubby remix of “The Last Sucker.” No credit information on those, but I suspect it’s Bechdel and/or Worbeck.

Remember that U.S.S.A.'s “The Spoils” is out today, too. Haven’t listened to that one yet, but it too has nice (though obviously not as elaborate) packaging. I might play both cds at the same time and pretend they put out a highly experimental Ministry reunion album.

Remember that U.S.S.A.'s “The Spoils” is out today, too. Haven’t listened to that one yet, but it too has nice (though obviously not as elaborate) packaging. I might play both cds at the same time and pretend they put out a highly experimental Ministry reunion album.

did you happen to see it (ussa) at best buy? i’d like to get the ministry with the extra tunes on it - and juss pick up the ussa at the same time.

Cheers on the sample reference. Can’t believe I didn’t catch what it was.

did you happen to see it (ussa) at best buy? i’d like to get the ministry with the extra tunes on it - and juss pick up the ussa at the same time.

They had exactly one copy at my local Best Buy. You should check availability at bestbuy.com.
I’m listening to it now and it’s MUCH better than I was expecting. I figured it would be an hour’s worth of tracks that sound like “Stolen,” but it’s actually a lot more interesting than Paul’s stuff from his last days in Ministry.

“Blistering”

?

“Aggressive as hell”

???

Shuh right. A friend of mine who slaves at the local music store bought it and played 1/2 of it for me 2 hrs ago. 1st time I’ve heard it. Ugh.

The writing and playing are hurried and perfunctory. Embarrassing. A 2nd rate Jourgensen doing a 3rd rate Ministry.

I give it a 1.5 outta 10.

Watch Terrorizor give it a 7.

Lets see, if you didn’t like Rio (which I’m guessing you didn’t)…well like I said, I have a feeling you probably wouldn’t dig this one either.
I’m just guessing you didn’t like Rio.

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did you happen to see it (ussa) at best buy? i’d like to get the ministry with the extra tunes on it - and juss pick up the ussa at the same time.

They had exactly one copy at my local Best Buy. You should check availability at bestbuy.com.
I’m listening to it now and it’s MUCH better than I was expecting. I figured it would be an hour’s worth of tracks that sound like “Stolen,” but it’s actually a lot more interesting than Paul’s stuff from his last days in Ministry.[/reply]

thanks rev - i’ll try and swing by there on the way home from work and see if they have one of each.

anyone feel like upping the USSA to rapidshare or any other file sharing outlet? I doubt Ill be able to buy it anytime soon (although I definitely will when I find it somewhere) and Id love to hear it…

Cheers on the sample reference. Can’t believe I didn’t catch what it was.
Dude! I totally called that reference as soon as it was leaked… WTF?? http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=11492;sb=post_latest_reply;so=ASC;forum_view=forum_view_collapsed;;page=unread#unread

it’s one up from the bottom.
Late,
grmpysmrf

anyone feel like upping the USSA to rapidshare or any other file sharing outlet? I doubt Ill be able to buy it anytime soon (although I definitely will when I find it somewhere) and Id love to hear it…

Or buy it online :slight_smile:

My review covers my take on the lp.

Ah, the end.

Well, the end of the name anyway. I picked up my copy of The Last Sucker today and gave it a spin.

Just to give a clear picture here and acknowledge my bias - I miss Paul Barker’s involvement in Ministry, I was a huge fan of Lead Into Gold and really liked what Paul brought to the Filth Pig/Dark Side…/Animo… lps. Not that I don’t enjoy Psalm 69 or the thrash-y metal vibe of the post Paul LPs either. For me, Psalm 69’s excellence lay in it’s half thrash side & half slow heavy noisey side. It didn’t go overboard in either direction. Houses of the Mole was quite good in retrospec compared to Rio Grande Blood + The Last Sucker, in keeping the balanced vibe, instead of going heavily into straight speed metal. Okay? Good.

So here’s what’s really chaffing me about The Last Sucker - the opening tracks actually (Let’s Go, Watch Yourself and Life Is Good) are for the most part, really fucking good. But after that, this album spins off into re-hashed, re-heated shit. =(

Much has been made of Al’s anti-bush lyrics over the ‘trilogy’. For the most part it’s been enjoyable mindless ranting along, kinda like old punk records vs. Reagan. N.W.O. is all I can recall Psalm 69 featuring against Bush, Sr. So I’m not sure why Al decided to go so hard in this direction lyrically. Overkill IMO.

So the other part is the music and here’s where (baring the opening songs) The Last Sucker fails badly. It’s not recorded poorly (altho it’s mastered fucking loud enough) but really after one listen thru, I can pick out songs that are RECYCLED riffs.

Seriously, for the last gasp of a once great machine, that’s all you got? UGH. No Glory has a riff that quotes Lies, Lies, Lies but sped-up that takes over after an good intro. Die In A Crash nicks the riff from Black Flag’s ‘American Waste’. End of Days opens with a riff that’s nicked as well, from Cop Shoot Cop.

At least the Doors cover is oddly good and makes me think of a car chase with open liqour. And the album ends with End of Days part II, a nod to the non-thrash other road that Ministry used to tread on as well.Even with a useless guitar solo stuffed in between the verses, this track is actually a very nice end-cap.

the best 5 cuts on this and the best 5 cuts on Rio Grande Blood could have easily been an excellent final send off, too bad Al felt he had to make an artistic ‘statement’ by doing a trilogy instead of letting Houses stand alone and make one ‘anti-bush’ album.

In the end tho The Last Sucker is a 5/10 record.

-E

greets to all the Avalanchers here :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

“Blistering”

?

“Aggressive as hell”

???

Shuh right. A friend of mine who slaves at the local music store bought it and played 1/2 of it for me 2 hrs ago. 1st time I’ve heard it. Ugh.

The writing and playing are hurried and perfunctory. Embarrassing. A 2nd rate Jourgensen doing a 3rd rate Ministry.

I give it a 1.5 outta 10.

Watch Terrorizor give it a 7.

Yep.

Oh, check out the amazon description of Last Sucker!!!

Welcome to the renegade road warrior Al Jourgensen’s latest behemoth an off-the-map, 12 hundred horsepower vehicle. Fuel-injected with equal parts fury, disgust, distrust and dismay, spitting and sizzling with grease and venom, each joint heaves under the pressure of emotionally relentless delivery. From the first double-digit salvo of ‘Let’s Go,’ with its deliciously bizarre trademark Ministry wasteland brutality, Jourgensen outlays a glorious smorgasbord of Ministry mayhem. Strap on ‘Death & Destruction’ for joyriding thrills, ‘Watch Yourself’ for its distinctive Ministry ‘sample and slam you’ warning, ‘The Dick Song,’ for Ministry’s tribute to the current US Veep, and a propane-powered cover of The Doors ‘Roadhouse Blues.’

Ha ha!! Could it be any more cornball??

Last Sucker is truly terrible. No disrespect to those who liked it - but I found it more or less bottom of the barrel. It’s everything I hoped he wouldn’t sink to. The Dick Song, Last Sucker, No Glory, Roadhouse Blues, End Of Days…uuugggghhh!!

And is that a rap during End Of Days??? Is Burton rapping??? And those lyrics!! You’ve gotta be kidding me. Anyone who thinks they’ve improved lyrically on this one…I don’t understand. What were you thinking. They’re laughable. And the music!! It couldn’t be any more third rate if it tried. It is so badly done. So cheap and completely devoid of intelligence.

Sorry, to be such a stick in the mud and I wish it could’ve turned out different but this is one sorry assed farewell album.

Oh wait…we’ve still have SPACE TRUCKIN to look forward to.

[reply]anyone feel like upping the USSA to rapidshare or any other file sharing outlet? I doubt Ill be able to buy it anytime soon (although I definitely will when I find it somewhere) and Id love to hear it…

Or buy it online :)[/reply]

actually u gotta have a US billing address to buy it online, as I discovered with emusic…

The writing and playing are hurried and perfunctory. Embarrassing. A 2nd rate Jourgensen doing a 3rd rate Ministry.

Last Sucker is truly terrible. No disrespect to those who liked it - but I found it more or less bottom of the barrel. It’s everything I hoped he wouldn’t sink to. The Dick Song, Last Sucker, No Glory, Roadhouse Blues, End Of Days…uuugggghhh!!

Yup. That pretty much sums up my feelings.

In any regard, from back to front, like I said, probably some of the most, if not the most, detailed cover artwork I’ve ever encountered. A ton of symbology is effectively used through out it.

I think the typeface ruins the effect. It’s WAAAY too heavy, fills up too much space and looks cheap. The Ministry logo is just terrible. Really awful - like the logo of some Megadeth worshippin, bong smokin high school band.

Just plain bad.

Musically, the album comes out blistering.
It’s aggressive as all hell again, in fact, mid way through the album I was feeling mentally worn out.
I will note that there is no drummer this time around at all. All the drum programming was conducted by Jourgensen and one other chap. I have to confess, other electronic musicians should take heed and pull a page or two from their book. It was some of the best drum programming I’ve ever heard. It can be a hard feet to pull of programming drums and consistently pulling off the sound and feel of a human drummer, but this was truly achieved on this album. The drumming is not monotonous in the least of ways, and had I not been aware of the fact that all the drums were programmed, I’d have sworn a human drummer(s) were behind it all (or at least some if it)…they were simply that lively.

I couldn’t DISAGREE with this more.

Something else worthy of note is Jourgensen made a notable jump in the quality of his lyrics. In all honesty, the lyrical content of the last 2 (arguably 3) Ministry efforts I felt was fairly middle schoolish. It just seemed like stuff written by a 13 year old. It wasn’t the subject matter, it was more so how the subject matter was covered.
This time around, things are a lot more focused and intelligent I think.

Disagree again. Sloppy, unfocused songwriting. Lazy, obvious and just plain irritating. It seemed as if the lyrics were an afterthought - wait, it seems as if the ENTIRE album was just an afterthought.

Honestly, I’ve heard better White Zombie b sides that are better than this. And I don’t even LIKE White Zombie.

also all these new gimmicks… hologram, “cyphered” fonts, etc…

can anyone explain to me the point and the meaning behind all these “end of days” youtube videos? wtf is that.

No doubt. People on this board bitch because of an interesting and elaborate package design. They would have bitched if it was in a plain white paper sleeve. They would have bitched if it was a standard jewel case with a booklet. As Jesus once said, “There’s just no pleasing some people.”

From what i’ve been reading, the packaging it probably great. The music is lacking though. And if opinions and rants are a form of complaining, then my life’s sure been a lie. I do like ministry, but the last three haven’t been worth the money. They have moments, but three tracks, if lucky, aren’t worth 15 bucks. I hear the packaging and such is pretty cool though. Has a puzzle according to PA. So that’s pretty cool, but the music just isn’t doing it for me.

Just got it 2 days ago, first time I listened to it I was thinking hmmm. But at least its clattery I said [:)] Yknow its nowhere near their peak but I can listen to it again. I like it better than Houses which I thought had good songs but it all just ran together for me. Out of this trilogy of albums I like RGB best ( I really hope they play Senor Peligro live again!) Would I listen to and like anything Ministry might churn out I dont know? I was most disappointed when Dark Side came out and now can see its good points. I didnt get that feeling with this one. I will listen to this one some more and I can only be happy with that.

also all these new gimmicks… hologram, “cyphered” fonts, etc…

can anyone explain to me the point and the meaning behind all these “end of days” youtube videos? wtf is that.

I think it’s cos making a big party of the final album. Sounds daft to compare it to this, but when I used to design packaging for Pocket Dragons (yeah laugh but it was fun) when the brand finally finished, it was ended with doing something major and the budget was increased so I could design something more spectacualr than usual. It’s cos folk want to go out with a bang rather than a fizzle. And I’m green with envy of the designer who got to work on the packaging, I’d love to get a spec like that.

With the YouTube videos, looks like they were having a laugh and why not? Of course it is also to generate excitement and get people to buy the cd. So often when I wear a Ministry tshirt, I get people coming up to me and asking if Ministry are still going, so you can’t blame them for advertising any way they fancy.

Anyone that knows me won’t be surprised that I like TLS, but I am looking forward to the remix cos I thought RGDya was so much better than the original.