[reply][reply]Everything said in this thread so far is spot on. Talented, zero creativity, etc.
Ditto for the appraisals of Manson.
Has anyone heard the 2wo album he did with Rob Halford, produced by Trent Reznor? It’s pretty interesting attempt at a crossover.
I’m guessing it wasn’t “metal” enough for his fans and nobody outside of them ever really gave it a chance…
I was one of the handful of people that actually liked the 2wo album…really good catchy songs with strong hooks and chorus’…and Halford sounded great on it…never understood the bashing it received…[/reply][/reply]
I’ll give it a try.
Not that I actively wrote it off, but the assessment above PARTLY could apply to me. It wasn’t that it wasn’t metal, so much, though, as it was that it appeared (based on packaging and marketing only as I’ve yet to hear ANY of it) to be another cheesy quasi-industrial gothy fagfest. If I recall, it had a really lame name too, like “Voyeurs” or something.
Anyway, I’m glad to hear someone recommend it and I’ll give it a shot when I have a chance.
You can hear Reznor in the music for sure…there are still some metal elements at play and Halford doesn’t do the high-pitched screams that are so predominant in Priest,Fight and his solo band…there is some cheesy quasi-industrial faggity moments but not overtly so…and even with those moments,I still like it…Halford is an old vet and knows how to write good hooks…and this album is no different…I think it’s a very underrated and overlooked album…
It is worth checking out and hey if it’s not your bag the good news is that you probably found it for about $1…
Part of it could well have been that I was listening on my PC, so that wasn’t the fairest of samplings (for techno or cheesy electronic industrial stuff to have a chance it’s gotta be blasted out at some dark gothy club or listened to on headphones in a dark corner of your bedroom) . . . but I tried about 3 tracks. No, not a wiggle. Not even a bit of a twitch.
It just seemed like generic quasi-industrial faggitry to me. Good for Rob for trying something new, but it just ain’t for me. I didn’t realize until flipping through the videos that Rob “came out of the closet” right before this album was released — Probably beating everyone to the punch before they all claimed this album was the gayest thing he ever did.
Haha ok,fair enough…I certainly wouldn’t try to sell you on it…I just think it’s better than it’s reputation…
I love that there is a song called ‘Gimp’…that is never not funny…
HAHAHAHA!!! I was listening to one called “Lucipher” and the intro (basically Rob speaking over some atmosphery music stuff) was really greasy and S&M’y and I felt like I was about to be molested simultaneously by Captain Howdy from Strangeland and Buffalo Bill from Silence of the Lambs.
I’ll give GIMP a try tonight. Or perhaps I should say I’ll BRING OUT THE GIMP!!!
I think 2wo was definitely Halford’s attempt at crossing over into the (at the time) fertile Industrial Rock niche market.
Like Bowie’s similar attempt, it feels a bit like an older artist trying to be hip by joining the Reznor bandwagon.
By the same token (also like Bowie), the result is actually good so I think it should not be judged so harshly.
I mean the Industrial Rock albums by Halford or Bowie in my opinion are superior to many “real” Industrial Rock veteran acts.
i LOVE the Bowie industrial stuff. i mean, he had already been playing around with the same noises and vibes and ideas for a decade at that point. you look at albums like Low, or “heroes”, even Lodger and you cant help but hear the budding industrial inspiration all over them. also, Bowie’s voice is just so… perfect.
as for 2wo, not horrible, but… i mean… eh. also, i didnt know that this John 5 fellow was on that album… yet another album i dont really care about that he is on.
Yeah,I mean are we talking about his 90s stuff because aside from some of the remixes and brief collabs with Reznor I wouldn’t consider any of that 90s stuff really industrial sounding…there was some drum and bass elements but not really to industrial sounding…
Low is amazing. Same with Scary Monsters. And “Five Years” from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust… is one of my favorite Bowie songs period.
Fuck, there’s too many great Bowie albums to pick a single one I enjoy the most.
Yeah,good point…and yeah Scary Monsters is a special one and the last before his rough 80s patch…my least favorite Bowie period(Let’s Dance,Tonight and Never Let me Down)…
[reply]Low is amazing. Same with Scary Monsters. And “Five Years” from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust… is one of my favorite Bowie songs period.
Fuck, there’s too many great Bowie albums to pick a single one I enjoy the most.
Yeah,good point…and yeah Scary Monsters is a special one and the last before his rough 80s patch…my least favorite Bowie period(Let’s Dance,Tonight and Never Let me Down)…[/reply]
“Ashes to Ashes” is amazing. And yeah, the 80’s seem pretty fucking ridiculous Bowie-wise.
[reply][reply]Low is amazing. Same with Scary Monsters. And “Five Years” from The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust… is one of my favorite Bowie songs period.
Fuck, there’s too many great Bowie albums to pick a single one I enjoy the most.
Yeah,good point…and yeah Scary Monsters is a special one and the last before his rough 80s patch…my least favorite Bowie period(Let’s Dance,Tonight and Never Let me Down)…[/reply]
“Ashes to Ashes” is amazing. And yeah, the 80’s seem pretty fucking ridiculous Bowie-wise.[/reply]
And yeah man,Ashes to Ashes is genius…just a totally unique song that sounds like nothing else…Scary Monsters is wonderful piece of work all around…