[reply]Hey Grmpy
I suppose silver boots are a lot of effort too… with art-work etc… I wonder who makes them? fans or … well I dunno?
I really wish people wouldn’t buy the so called “official bootlegs”. There is nothing official about them. Your only supporting thieves.
I love collecting boots as much as the next person and have a nice collection, but I refuse to pay for them. You should too. [/quote]
I would never pay for a CDR boot but an actual manufactured boot… I don’t mind forkin out some cash for that. somebody put in some time creating the cover…although some of them are pretty cheap looking. And based on the “official” boots I don’t think a fan would take the time to create a barcode and a company logo like KTS and what not.
Honestly, I think they are put out by the company that owns the rights to the music. Like, how much EXTRA cash would warner bothers make if they put out a live show…? there is no overhead, no extra mixing involved, No sound engineers…nothing. just a live feed. So now all of this money is made from touring that the Warner Bros can’t get their hands on BUT you grab a live show press it to disc and now the Record company is making money off of that same show. Charge far more for the CD than the ticket to the show cost and far more units are sold. rolling in cash now whereas previously they were not making any money. Slap “live show” and a date on the CD and some schmuck like myself is forking out 20 bucks for it!
Who makes them? Often it’s people like you and me. Someone who goes to a show, rolls tape and posts it to dime or the trading circuit. Some thief snags a copy, makes some artwork and presses a few copies and sells them. Often the quality blows.
I doubt it. How many people like you and me have access to a printing press? I don’t know any. How many people like you and me have access to professional recordable compact discs (I.E. silver bottomed CD’s)?? I don’t know any.
An acquaintance of mine has been kind enough to tape and share quite a few shows, not Ministry, with a really nice rig and post them to Dime or db.etree or some other trading site. A thief “stole” at least two of them from the trading community, made some artwork and pressed a few copies and is now selling them.
Pressed them? do you mean, made covers on his laser jet printer? and then put a circle sticker over the actual MAXWELL CDR? If That is the case I’m totally on your side that sucks to sell that. but the legitimate presses are produced in such a quantity that no one individual can run that from there house.
The individual who taped the show is ticked and won’t trade any of his shows any longer. The trading community is significantly worse off because of thieves who profit off of someone else’s work.
Dude should be more selctive with who he trades with.
Worse, is that it takes money out of the pocket of the performer
I don’t buy this…the performer has made the money they are going to make from that show. ticket sales and merch booth, there is no other money to be had for the performer. Even if the performer was to sell a copy of the show, generally people would buy that show from the performer over a pirate. and the people who would buy from the pirate would probably own both copies.
and they get strict about people bringing in equipment to tape shows. The whole trading community suffers for it, but the thief profits.
this is gerenally the Venue not the performer. I worked for the santa barbara Bowl and the performers I met could give a shit about recording, but the bowl were the ones against it. They don’t allow cameras either because the venues have little deals with specific mags and newspapers that states no, one with out a press pass is allowed with a camera. It cuts into the Venues profits not the band’s.
Don’t buy bootlegs, you only harm yourself and everyone else in the long run. With a bit of work, you’ll find a trading partner or two, and collect the right way. For free. And you’ll “meet” some really good people in the process.
Just not into CDR’s, Dude sorry. Although, I would trade CDRs if that was the only way the show came and then make my own covers and what not But As I said earlier I would never pay for something that exists soley on CDR. I can make that shit myself!
[quote]If you have a Ministry/Revco show I don’t and care to do some show trading, let me know. You can find my list at http://db.etree.org/prologue_99[/reply]
I’ll check out your list a bit later. I’d only be interested, as I said earlier, in the stuff that only exists on CDR. as far as my stuff, since you don’t care about CDR stuff you can have copies of whatever I have that you don’t
Late,
grmpysmrf