@ G + M138: ah yeah I’m not opposed to Bleeding Horse really at all (and it does suit a big crowd, though I popped in there for a recent Rugby clash between Ireland and England and it had too many English there, plus the game was shite!) There’s a few decent spots around there though (I live about 5 mins away). Whelan’s is close and not a bad spot for good music in bar setting, Anseo is a good pub close to there too. Bit further down is The Long Hall which looks fairly swankyu inside but it does good pints. Then there’s No Name which is usually good on a weekend. There’s a ‘golden mile’ pub crawl down Camden - Aungier - Georges st… 26 or 27 pubs I think it is. Haven’t done that yet. I got to 19 in a different town last year and I think that was enough then!
i’ll see what the setlist is first from other gigs. if there’s anything vaguely interesting i might show up (the forum, london)… but i have a feeling that won’t be the case. i’m sure there’s a joke there.
I’ll be giving it a miss, I’m afraid. Low on money. Low on fucks to give.
We could all just wait for the live album and its stellar artwork
They’re not coming to my town, and even if they were I’d skip it this time.
Now, if Al ever feels like touring Buck Satan, that might be a different story…
Now, if Al ever feels like touring Buck Satan, that might be a different story…
Yeah! I’m still hoping he might surprise us and throw a track or two in the set. It was pretty much just him and Mikey anyway, so there’s really no excuse not to.
I have tickets (2 of them, no less) for the NY show, so, yeah, I’ll be there. I’ll be there even if I cave and look at the setlist beforehand and it’s “Relapse” in its entirety followed by the best of the Bush trilogy, which I think is probably an accurate prediction. But fuck it - I’m a Ministry fan.
and it’s “Relapse” in its entirety followed by the best of the Bush trilogy, which I think is probably an accurate prediction.
Yeah, I’ve already come to peace with accepting the above. Anything beyond it will just be a pleasant surprise.
To be honest, while I couldn’t care less about “Rio” or “Sucker”, I really liked “Houses” a lot. And, as outcast as it may make me, I really dig “Relapse” (I guess someone has too, right?).
I’m looking forward to hearing the new tracks live. They’re just good fun dumb metal.
They’re just good fun dumb metal.
You just opened the door for Amlux here, you know that, right?
As a side note:
And, as outcast as it may make me, I really dig “Relapse”
A friend from high school who I haven’t spoken to in ages messaged me on facebook yesterday and asked me if I heard the new Ministry. When I said yes, before I could give my opinion, he told me he thought it was their best stuff since Psalm 69…
Maybe we’re all just jaded and bitter. Or maybe he was hammered… who knows. Guess I should give it another listen tonight…
Hey Gunnar, I did respond with a no only because I don’t have money.
Now if Ministry were coming to SF or Sacramento then I’d be there. After CU LaTour they’re simply not worth traveling anywhere to see.
You just opened the door for Amlux here, you know that, right?
That door is already wide open and he’s welcome to come over and cry his little eyes out any time. The difference between him and me is that I’m confident enough in myself that I don’t feel I need to prove anything by the music I listen to.
Yes, the new Ministry album is good dumb metal. Rockin’ tunes, good musicianship. It’s great music to drink beer and or throw stuff off bridges to . . . but if you’re looking for the meaning of life in “I’m sooooo waaaayyyyysssttteeeedddd!!!” or “We don’t want treason, we just want reason, this is the season” you’re gonna end up with a needle in your arm, mainlining oven cleaner.
Amlux is concerned with impressing the other kids at the mall so he rambles on about music that he thinks makes him seem intelligent, despite how unlistenable that crap may be.
Just because someone enjoys watching Beavis and Butthead doesn’t mean they have to BE Beavis and Butthead. And just because I appreciate dumb metal doesn’t mean I have to be a dumb metalhead (though even the dumbest of metalheads could best Amlux in some mental arm wrestling anyday).
On the flipside, Amlux thinks by wanking about some metaphysical mathmetal bullcrap that he gets to be smart by default. Nope, sorry Kiddo! Doesn’t work that way. You’re just a dummy that likes boring and unlistenable garbage.
Maybe we’re all just jaded and bitter. Or maybe he was hammered… who knows. Guess I should give it another listen tonight…
This probably is an album that may need a second pass. Don’t think of it as a Ministry album. Don’t think of it as Al Jourgensen. Forget everything you know the band and the man USED TO be capable of and appealed to your intellectual side. Don’t listen to this album with your brain (it won’t help). Just listen with your balls.
You’re describing why I like Rio Grande Blood, but that approach hasn’t helped Relapse any.
You’re describing why I like Rio Grande Blood, but that approach hasn’t helped Relapse any.
i really liked Rio, not as much as houses, but still. rio sounded like a bad slayer album, and that is still high class metal. haha.
as for relapse… well… kleptocracy is SO good… for most of it.
im not seeing this tour, saw the culatour, wasnt all that into it, but not going to waste the money on another show… especially when i could spend a fraction of the money to go see suburban scum, skarhead, hazen street, h2o, youth of today, and RANCID all in one night… haha. different night, but i mean, financially… its the principal of it.
You’re describing why I like Rio Grande Blood, but that approach hasn’t helped Relapse any.
I’m not sure if you’re trying hard enough. You really need to empty your head COMPLETELY. If you leave any of your brain active while listening your brain will protest and is goingtry to stab you to death for subjecting it to some of the worst lyrics ever written in the history of lyrics.
“Surgeons, they cut to heal you. Axe murderers cut to kill you.”
I have tickets (2 of them, no less) for the NY show, so, yeah, I’ll be there. I’ll be there even if I cave and look at the setlist beforehand and it’s “Relapse” in its entirety followed by the best of the Bush trilogy, which I think is probably an accurate prediction. But fuck it - I’m a Ministry fan.
If by some weird chance that 2nd ticket isn’t going for the 2nd party…I’ll nab it. I’ll be out of my fucking mind but I will go. It could be really lame or really fun, depending on the day.
You’re describing why I like Rio Grande Blood, but that approach hasn’t helped Relapse any.
I agree…but as a sidenote,“Listen with your balls” should be copyrighted…a rallying cry…[laugh]
I’m not sure if you’re trying hard enough.
I haven’t heard the album, so I can’t really comment on the quality… But doesn’t it defeat the purpose of a “dumb fun” album if you still have to try hard to enjoy it?
You guys. I REALLY don’t wanna drop twelve bucks on the disc. Stop convincing me otherwise.
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No, I don’t think so.
If this were a fun dumb metal album put out by a fun dumb metal band people wouldn’t have to try so hard. They’d look at the CD with a drawing of a skeleton fist punching a burning hole through the moon and go, “Huh, new CD by the Fist Punchers . . . hey, this is pretty cool!” But it’s Ministry, so people are in a different mindset typically.
It’s not really about having to force yourself to like something, but more about wiping away preconceived notions of what the album SHOULD be and what you EXPECT from the band.
This album is certainly not for everyone. It’s, like I said, an album for people who appreciate dumb metal. It’s not for sitting around and analytically dissecting the lyrical content or {UGGH} the samples. It’s for poppin’ open a case of Keystone and sneaking into your neighbors backyard to do cannonballs into their above-ground swimming pool.
This album is certainly not for everyone. It’s, like I said, an album for people who appreciate dumb metal. It’s not for sitting around and analytically dissecting the lyrical content or {UGGH} the samples. It’s for poppin’ open a case of Keystone and sneaking into your neighbors backyard to do cannonballs into their above-ground swimming pool.
God, that sounds horrible! Sounds like I’d need a whole shit-load of drugs to even contemplate giving it a spin. Music has to appeal to the mind before it affects you physically.
I don’t know about the show, Gunnar; it depends.