fucking ridiculous. Iran hasn’t been in the news recently (japan, arab spring, debt problems, GOP race etc), so it looks like they concocted a nice little story.
I like how they say the story reads like a script and that Vin Diesel and Paul Walker wouldn’t be caught dead near it.
If this is/was true and it did happen at the Saudi embassy then how does it qualify as an act of terrorism against the U.S.? Is the Saudi embassy in Washington not Saudi territory? Or does only the U.S. count their embassies in other countries as their territory?
fucking ridiculous. Iran hasn’t been in the news recently (japan, arab spring, debt problems, GOP race etc), so it looks like they concocted a nice little story.
i think the lack of a strong muslim response is due to the fact that there are many different factions/ideas within the muslim community (sunni, shia, monarchies, democracies, theocracies etc etc), whereas the west has a much more unified vision.
and i don’t think the problem in the muslim community is lack of articulation, but the fact that they’re misrepresented and distorted in the western media.
A lot of that could be said of many religions, though. There are a plethora of different types of “Christians” too, but to many the word implies bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and lack of reason. Why is that?
Well, for one, it’s a matter of visibility. Groups like Westboro Baptist (the “God Hates Fags” group) are more interesting to put on TV than the group that minds their own business or volunteers at the homeless shelter serving soup and offering some compassion.
The a-holes always get more attention. One of Afra’s points, though, is very valid and that is exposing the truth and speaking more loudly for the “majority” (I’m referring to the majority of any particular group, not implying that Muslims are a majority in our society) . . . . call out extremism and acts of violence and hate for what they are and when your group gets wrongly villified, speak loudly and clearly for the truth.
And when jackass reporters and media outlets fail to represent sanity, truth, or reason, shout louder.
A lot of that could be said of many religions, though. There are a plethora of different types of “Christians” too, but to many the word implies bigotry, narrow-mindedness, and lack of reason. Why is that?
Well, for one, it’s a matter of visibility. Groups like Westboro Baptist (the “God Hates Fags” group) are more interesting to put on TV than the group that minds their own business or volunteers at the homeless shelter serving soup and offering some compassion.
The a-holes always get more attention. One of Afra’s points, though, is very valid and that is exposing the truth and speaking more loudly for the “majority” (I’m referring to the majority of any particular group, not implying that Muslims are a majority in our society) . . . . call out extremism and acts of violence and hate for what they are and when your group gets wrongly villified, speak loudly and clearly for the truth.
And when jackass reporters and media outlets fail to represent sanity, truth, or reason, shout louder.
i didn’t mean to imply that the west doesn’t have it’s share of divisions, but as a whole, they have a pretty unified set of visions/goals.
i didn’t mean to imply that the west doesn’t have it’s share of divisions, but as a whole, they have a pretty unified set of visions/goals.
No problem. I wasn’t taking issue with anything you said, just observing that the extremists, while representing only a small fraction of a group, always get the lion share of attention . . . at the detriment of the rest.
Regardless of their stripes, they all needlessly waste time, energy, and money on antiquated superstitions. I don’t care if you are Christian or Muslim, zealot or genuinely nice guy, belief in the supernatural is a backwards mental state to occupy. We’d all be better off if people were logically rooted in the reality of the physical universe we actually inhabit, and made the decisions necessary for continuing this human enterprise based on the best evidence we have available rather than on arbitrary biases handed down from pre-literate ritual. Period.