Industrial Accident - the Story of WaxTrax!

[reply]Yeah, Jello knew Jim and Dannie back in the Colorado days, right? Think Al talked about that in his book.

This is what I was going to say.
And I THINK I recall some earlier promo video clip of Jello talking about this.[/reply]

Yeah Jello brings this up in (I think) one of the Incredibly Strange Music books on Re/Search. He talks about how he hated the “country rock” scene that was all the rage in Colorado, supposedly the Ramones blew through town at some point and he claims that was the impetus for both his band and WaxTrax! getting launched.

I kind of reckon Jello’s vox for Lard are perfect? I mean… it would’ve been obvious to get some thick necked ass-rock yeller, but they went with the goofy choice. I like goofy.

The trailer was just posted:

https://vimeo.com/205830918

Looks good!

Great Fairlight impression, Luc.

Awesome. Can’t wait to check this out.

yep. looks good. can’t wait.

Anyone go the screening last night? Or more specifically, the panel that Groovie Mann was on? He was barking on FB about being disrespected. Who’s got the scoop?

I went to both screenings and panels actually and will expound on everything incl most likely why Groovie was annoyed, later this evening.

Groovie Mann looks like Gordon Ramsay’s depraved cousin.
This looks fucking amazing.

I went to both screenings and panels actually and will expound on everything incl most likely why Groovie was annoyed, later this evening.

dude. what happened?

Would love to hear the scoop on the event/documentary.

The VHS vault showed a tape that might be the very first Ministry live show. Was that something they showed in the film?

LOL sorry…post incoming…typing now

So, I’m gonna break down both impressions of the film, as well as the panels. It might appear light but I hope that what I report, is of at least strong substance regardless of word length. Don’t worry, I will not ruin anything as far as discussing content of it so no spoiler alerts.

THE FILM -

As a fan of damn near every act on the label, as well as a fan of “industrial” music, record stores and debaucherous people, it hit all the right moods and moves. It is a workprint, but I have to say besides the on-screen text formatting and spacing? It’s easy to put out as a final cut.

The first third and the last third (the bookends) of the film focuses on the record store/label, as well as Jim and Dannie as their enigmatic personalities. The middle portion was more focused on the acts of the roster, primarily on TKK, Ministry, RevCo and F242. Now, I must say that if I were a casual viewer, I would probably find this third of the film distracting, since they go more into the acts than the label/store/founders that the first third focused on. It’s hard to say, overall though since I am a fan and not a casual viewer. Maybe I should’ve brought some stranger, lol.

Interviewees were good, really entertaining - Al J shows up in it for maybe 5 mins of screen time here and there. He’s not a mess and not hamming it up with juvenile and esoteric BS “stories” or Beavis-style drunkenness (although he is talking while holding a beer). Trent Reznor, Steve Albini and Chicago-area writers and critics pop in here and there for comments as well.

The one thing that has to be noted, and I’m not really giving anything away here because it’s revealed in the first few minutes of the film, is that there is a lot of archival material in the form of documents, home video footage, photographs and memorabilia that they used to showcase throughout to compliment what the parties are discussing.

The soundtrack was also top-notch, using (of course) a lot of WT-era material. I admit, I got psyched when the first song came on and the last song ended it because it’s all loud, rollicking bass and hard beats and jeez how can you not dig it?

I loved it. Anyone here would dig it as well, I assure you. It made me realize how unique of a label/store WT was, and it saddens me I never got to see it in person…but this comes close in really drawing you in and making you feel welcome in knowing its history. I actually have to do the survey after I type out the panel info post.

Thanks for posting. Hope to see this at some point.

Yeah, thanks for the post.

THE PANELS -

Each panel occurred after each showing. I actually didn’t wanna go to the second showing, but I got peer pressured into it so I saw both in full.

The first panel consisted of: Buzz McCoy, Jello Biafra, Steve Knudson (Wax Trax! Denver), Groovie Mann, Andy Wombwell (Wax Trax!), Julia Nash & Larry Crandus (Wax Trax!). Marty Leonards (WXRT radio) was the moderator.

Larry contributed video archival footage to the doc as well, I believed he mentioned he was the one who filmed the Front 242/Ministry show in 1984 (the one we talked about on YouTube some time ago).

(photo credit: errorcatastrophe)

The second panel consisted of Groovie Mann, Paul Barker, Julia Nash, Richard 23, Sean Joyce, Chris Connelly and Patrick Codenys.

It’s kind of hard to go into detail about what info was shared at the panels that would be of interest to anyone here, a majority of it was anecdotes about Jim and Dannie, working at the store, it was very warm reunion kind of fodder.

Jello did acknowledge that he did not have a huge tie to WT as far as we know, he stated he was barely in 1000 Homo DJs (his wail is throughout “Hey Asshole”) and that he knew WT more from discovering it in Colorado in the mid-70s. He stated that the cop on “Hey Asshole” was based on a cop named Jerry that was in the store and would frequently kick Jim or Dannie out of their office to make phone calls. A sidenote - he tried to get a job at WT but was turned down because Jim thought Jello was “too weird”!

Questions about TKK centered around the imagery and origins of why and how it formed, but mostly Groovie related in that he was an employee who never got fired, despite his infrequency for not being at work or causing mischief.

I don’t know who the moderator was for the second panel but let me shed some light on what went down with this guy…

He wasn’t a very good moderator, in that he seemed more like a superfan than someone who was there to engage and move the event along easily. He was throwing out factual tidbits and stats throughout the discussion when needed, which mostly were on point except for a circumstance in which he brought up the fact to Groovie that he did lighting on the 1987 Ministry tour. “It was '86,” Groovie said. “Really? I was sure it was '87.” “No, it was 1986,” Groovie insisted. There was a short pause, and Groovie stated dryly and slightly sarcastically, “Next question.” I’d like to point out also that Groovie was really, really stoned for the second panel.

He did this with Richard as well, in reference to a certain venue F242 played when they came to the states in 1984. Their first venue was Medusa’s, and then he mentioned that they played some other venue in Chicago and then he asks, “Which venue?” And Rich keeps talking and the guy asked again what the venue was, leading him to say, “Does that really matter?” People laughed but, it was clearly an irritance.

That’s the only thing I can see that maybe stuck in Groovie’s craw, but that coupled with his condition and his ability to be dry with sarcasm - make of that what you will.

I think it is a strong possibility that more unreleased WT-era material will surface or be released down the line, as Julia was asked on both panels of that being a thing. She paused each time, and said, “Maybe.”

Paul did verify the origin of the 1000 Homo DJ’s name as being that of Jim mocking it never being heard beyond a thousand homo DJs playing it.

I wish I had more to add about these panels, but the one that stood out was that Groovie filmed himself in Jim and Dannie’s apartment above WT burning the inside of a windowpane with Al J’s photo on it while Groovie was mock singing “Burning inside, burning inside!” He nearly burned down the apartment yet, alas, did not get fired as a cashier of the store.

Thanks again…I wish I could have been there.

Thanks for sharing this JLW. I was really impressed with the trailer and now with your review I am really, really excited.

Thanks JLW! Wish I could have been there.