http://vishkhanna.com/2015/11/12/ep-223-ian-mackaye-steve-albini-part-i/
Long interview, but they talk about Pailhead.
I only read the little blurb.
Is everyone like super gay for John Loder (whoever the heck he was) or something?
I only read the little blurb.
Is everyone like super gay for John Loder (whoever the heck he was) or something?
They explain who that is at 20:20.
Damn! How long is the video?
weird. they refer to paul as “Ion Barker”.
then i see it on his wiki page as an AKA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barker
what’s that all about?
add on: reflin reading moby dick on a music stand while playing for ministry… ehhhhhh i dunno Ian.
Damn! How long is the video?
1 hr. 25 minutes? Good to put on while you’re doing household chores or something, i guess.
weird. they refer to paul as “Ion Barker”.
then i see it on his wiki page as an AKA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barker
what’s that all about?
That’s how he has his FB page too.
[reply]weird. they refer to paul as “Ion Barker”.
then i see it on his wiki page as an AKA:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Barker
what’s that all about?
That’s how he has his FB page too.[/reply]
Hes referred to as ion in the linger ficken good song as well.
There’s some late-80s interviews in the prongs archives where Al refers to him as Ion.
Albini is being an arrogant dick again.
There’s some late-80s interviews in the prongs archives where Al refers to him as Ion.
Can you point one out? This “Ion” thing seems new to me.
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There’s some late-80s interviews in the prongs archives where Al refers to him as Ion.
Can you point one out? This “Ion” thing seems new to me.[/reply]
In that goofy monologue that ends the “Linger Ficken Good” title track, he’s also identified as that, though I still have no idea as to the origin of the nickname.
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There’s some late-80s interviews in the prongs archives where Al refers to him as Ion.
Can you point one out? This “Ion” thing seems new to me.[/reply]
Ipso Facto Magazine, 1987.
Regardless of where he is, Jourgensen will continue to do what he wants. Future plans include leaving Ministry and forming a new solo group of which Jourgensen was enthusiastic, “I’m leaving Ministry in the next year or two because I have too many things to do,” he said. “I’ll just be quality control and Ion (Ministry’s bass player) will be Ministry,” he said.
He then goes on to describe his “solo” band, Programming the Psychodrill. Which seems like it would’ve been really fucking cool.
quote crosses 2 pages:
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/mags/ipso_facto/al-ipso-facto-1987-4.jpg
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/mags/ipso_facto/al-ipso-facto-1987-5.jpg
Chicago Tribune, 3.28.86
http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1986-03-28/entertainment/8601230157_1_sire-records-al-jourgensen-arista-records
Jourgensen and a Ministry line-up consisting of bassist Ion Barker, drummer Bill Rieflin and sax-keyboard player Roland Barker will kick off a four-month tour with two shows Saturday at the Vic, then make another area appearance April 12 at the Holiday Star Theater in Merrillville, Ind.
Nevertheless, I don’t know the story behind the Ion moniker. I think I just kinda assumed he was toying around with a stage name. But, didn’t consider it may have been a nickname.
Albini is being an arrogant dick again.
I think that’s his default setting.
He’s never understood industrial music, despite Big Black being an influence on it.
He then goes on to describe his “solo” band, Programming the Psychodrill. Which seems like it would’ve been really fucking cool.
They had 2 tracks, i think, one of them’s in Robocop in the club scene when Robocop gets Leon Nash. This is it.
He’s never understood industrial music, despite Big Black being an influence on it.
Can’t say I agree with that at all. Industrial, in it’s purest form, is about blowing your mind and overloading the senses (similar to psychedelia). The early groups (Throbbing Gristle, Cabaret Voltaire, Whitehouse, Nocturnal Emissions, Maurizio Bianachi) did this perfectly, and with little to no use of disco beats.
What Albini doesn’t like is the dance end of industrial, that an awful lot of them adopted. Here’s his take on Cabaret Voltaire (who of course went in that direction:
So good at the start… very warm place in my heart for them and kindred spirits like Metal Urbain etc.
Nag Nag Nag, Red Mecca, Three Mantras, Live tape all impeccable and a big inspiration for me. The later grafting of the noise electronic aesthetic onto club music destroyed this whole branch of music by providing an easy, consistent framework and audience, and almost every electronic band that survived into the 80s adopted it.
That whole shift was probably the worst lemmings-off-a-cliff act in all of music. Worse than when everybody added a disco song to the setlist. Worse than when every UK band added that ridiculous Madchester shuffle. Worse than autotune.
[reply]He then goes on to describe his “solo” band, Programming the Psychodrill. Which seems like it would’ve been really fucking cool.
They had 2 tracks, i think, one of them’s in Robocop in the club scene when Robocop gets Leon Nash. This is it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2seGZa6wU78[reply]
http://www.discogs.com/PTP-Rubber-Glove-Seduction/master/19757[/quote]
Thanks for the Ion references. I totally missed it back in the day…oh well & good to know since he is using it quite often now.
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There’s some late-80s interviews in the prongs archives where Al refers to him as Ion.
Can you point one out? This “Ion” thing seems new to me.[/reply]
around 20:20 the pailhead/al/ministry/waxtrax/paul conversation starts. it’s shortly into that.