[reply] but you should maybe read a bit more about Rolf Harris; he’s a disgusting fucking pervert who had child porn on his computer which was found by the police
I like you J we generally agree on most stuff and this is me in no way supporting Rolf Harris cause I don’t really know anything about the guy, but this is from your own link you provided…
“In the aftermath of Harris’s conviction, it was reported that his legal team had obtained the identity documents of the models involved, confirming they were adults over 18. The websites Harris had visited, according to the Internet Watch Foundation, are not known for illegal images of children. The prosecution informed the court that they would not be proceeding with the indecent images charges.”
In reality “groping the bottom of a 14 year” almost 40 years ago sounds like a bullshit charge to be brought up on. How do you prove that happened? How do you prove you’re innocent?
The other stuff he’s accused of just sounds like 40 plus year old accusations based on what? an accusation? He may be horrible, he may be guilty, I don’t really know or even have an opinion the rest of the accusations.[/reply]
Yeah, i know, these UK pervs don’t prove that Cosby’s guilty, true, i was basically trying to draw a comparison with the fact that these guys were loved over here for years and nobody would have ever thought there was anything dodgy about them and would have shrugged off accusations until they really started to pile up in the last couple of years. The stuff about his relationship with his daughter’s 13 year old friend and other very dodgy things from his past got him a jail sentence, the jury found him guilty. He’s a scumbag, i was surprised that Peligro defended him.
What i meant, probably badly put, was that people who are in that position, like Rolf, or Jimmy Savile or Cosby - celebrities who we grew up watching and liked because of their family-friendly image, can deflect accusations for years because people simply don’t believe the accusers because they buy the image 100%. Seeing the corruption of the authorities here, the police, the politicians and so on, who allow and even participate in this sort of thing, or protect the celebrities, is very shocking, it’s opened my eyes to a lot of things i would never have believed. If i’d been told there was a group of upper echelon perverts who abused children and women a few years ago i would have found it very far-fetched. If it is happening in the UK, that well-known people can operate like this for years, it can happen in America as well. The Cosby case so far has really reminded me of a lot of the stuff that’s come out here in the last couple of years, accusations building up, general disbelief in them to start with because people love this person.
You’re absolutely right, these cases don’t prove Bill Cosby is a rapist, but his silence, apart from the odd bizarre joke about it, is very weird. If i was accused of something like that i’d be defending myself vociferously, it’s a horrible thing to be accused of. I’d be upset, angry and going all out to prove i was innocent. He sits there smiling and gently shaking his head, like he’s been accused of farting or something, it’s unsettling. There was also this, about him talking in one of his old standup acts about drugging women, it does sound like he’s talking from experience.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2014/11/19/bill-cosby-jokes-about-drugging-women-1969-comedy-bit/19261937/
It’s just my opinion, i do realise that, and i do understand why you don’t agree, that’s fair enough. I loved Cosby when i was a kid, but his total hypocrisy about Eddie Murphy’s swearing while he was had been banging women left right and centre behind his wife’s back and so on, it just paints a picture of the guy i don’t like at all. I think he’s guilty personally, i think the various backgrounds of the accusers (some of whom, as i said could be jumping on the money train) suggests that some of them don’t stand to benefit from it, they’re self-made women, successful in their own right, and they’re putting themselves out there in a way that could forever change the way people look at them, and not for the better. I don’t think they’d lay it on the line like that unless they were absolutely certain about what happened. I think the way we can sometimes dismiss some women’s claims of abuse is part of the reason why so many sex crimes go unreported and unpunished, and why people like Savile get away with it and it only comes out when they die. At the same time there are people who maliciously file rape claims and damage the claims of true victims, but in Bill Cosby’s case there’s almost 30 women from all walks of life and i don’t feel it’s possible that they’re all lying for a few bucks.