I dig this comment from one of the posters on that review forum…
" I had the great pleasure of seeing them perform together on tour a couple of years ago, and Al and the gang don’t disappoint longtime fans in representing the older material."
hhehehehehe…oh how things changed.
Filth Pig and DSOTS by a country mile.
Yeah I agree with the artwork on DSOTS. What a piece of crap it is. Warner brothers had to be thinking the same thing at the time. I saw the artwork for DSOTS and listened to it. I had no desire to see them on tour in 99".
Did you know that Dark Side… is out of print now and sells for quite a bit on ebay.
Also, I like the artwork and think it would look brilliant on vinyl. It’s creepy and weird and vulgar. Too bad it was never released as an LP. If it were I’d frame it and hang it on my wall.
I kept thinking is this the same band that made “Mind”??? I liked the whole jazz idea but DSOTS could have been so much better than what it was for me. I like supermanic soul,10/10, and some of nursing home (it just gets to annoying after awhile.) thats it.
When it first came out I didn’t like it - especially the single ‘Bad Blood’. But now it’s grown on me…just don’t dig the high end tinny production. Too much ‘buzz saw’ not enough bass.
If they had given it the same production as Psalm 69 it could quite possibly be their greatest album.
I love how every thread on this board eventually leads to the inevitable recognition/realization that ‘Filth Pig’ and ‘Dark Side of the Spoon’ were actually good all these years and represent some of Ministry’s best work.
I can’t believe there are still those who refuse to bow before the ‘…Spoon’. But ‘Filth Pig’ seems almost universally accepted now save for a few crusty old tools still hankering for the “good 'ol days” and crying on about how they only enjoy the (rather simple and mundance) delay-effected piano cadence in “The Fall” as if it was a revelation.
Cereally guys…
Somebody said in another post that the track order for DSOTS could of been better. I agree with that and think DSOTS does have the worse track order of all the ministry albums. I think Barker’s bass playing is fantastic on DSOTS. When animostisomina came out I could listen to the entire thing and it had great flow.
Getting back to filth pig, I like reload, crumbs, dead guy, lava, lay lady lay, and brick windows. The reload music video I think is comedy. Gotta love Al in a dress.
i know filthpig is supposed to be slow and sludgy, but some tracks could use a bit of trimming.
dont know about dsots song order but i’d love to see extended version of step, it’s twice as awesome as the album version.
ty coon vox are very bad spots on the album.
I like both albums.
I think DSOTS appeals to me most of all as an audiphile album, it sounds really great on high quality audio equipment.
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anyway, paul elledge has all the fat pictures, of which i have seen quite the few.
elledge has a way of making ANYBODY look good, i was once told, by some hag hanging on al’s arm.and no, that hag was not wife #2. she was a little taller.
honestly…i have to know…wtf is the deal with that artwork? it’s bizarre, and i’d like answers. specifically, who was insane enough to let that get a greenlight? they/he/she/it must be loony tunes.
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An ugly record deserves an ugly cover.
ty coon.
can al have dug deeper into the barrel dredging up females he sleeps with who show up on vocals.
dark side of the spoon has an ugly cover. that’s the point, i think. i don’t second guess the master–paul elledge–who’s only won every award there is, and he rides italian motorcycles. i rest my case.
Did you know that Dark Side… is out of print now and sells for quite a bit on ebay.
if between 1 and 5 dollars is quite a bit… well… ok
Late,
grmpysmrf
ty coon.
can al have dug deeper into the barrel dredging up females he sleeps with who show up on vocals.
I love her vox, man. Still remember my shock at finding out she was a woman.
[:)]
god bless ty coon and her solo projects.
really.
Filth Pig and the Spoon are my two favourite Ministry albums. I also think the ugly art on Spoon was thouroughly appropriate. And the fact that there was no vinyl version was tragic. I remember when it came out I pestered my local record store weekly asking when it was going to come in on vinyl… and it never did. Isn’t that the sadest story ever?
Filth Pig and the Spoon are my two favourite Ministry albums. I also think the ugly art on Spoon was thouroughly appropriate. And the fact that there was no vinyl version was tragic. I remember when it came out I pestered my local record store weekly asking when it was going to come in on vinyl… and it never did. Isn’t that the sadest story ever?
I thought the whole ugly art had to do with the meaning of spoon… i mean obviously the title could be a floyd rip off, then a take on heroin, also a 3rd meaning a dark side of the spoon is getting a fat ass from over-eating… not rocket science insight, but eh…
now you’re talkin’ carmangary. you are possibly the only other person here who’s a fan of botero.
let that fat lady (or man) sing.
Filth Pig and the Spoon are my two favourite Ministry albums. I also think the ugly art on Spoon was thouroughly appropriate. And the fact that there was no vinyl version was tragic. I remember when it came out I pestered my local record store weekly asking when it was going to come in on vinyl… and it never did. Isn’t that the sadest story ever?
I remember when I could still be bothered collecting Ministry merch that I asked on here about DSOTS vinyl, and Afra (I think) said that he had seen it released on vinyl.
I’ve never been able to find a copy however.
DSOTS, ICUDFLSU and J1F on vinyl seem to be the hardest to track down. I did end up getting ICUDFLSU eventually, and have seen J1F on ebay once or twice over many years.
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I remember when I could still be bothered collecting Ministry merch that I asked on here about DSOTS vinyl, and Afra (I think) said that he had seen it released on vinyl.
I’ve never been able to find a copy however.
DSOTS, ICUDFLSU and J1F on vinyl seem to be the hardest to track down. I did end up getting ICUDFLSU eventually, and have seen J1F on ebay once or twice over many years.[/reply]
I think there were some white label copies released but never any retail copies
now you’re talkin’ carmangary. you are possibly the only other person here who’s a fan of botero.
let that fat lady (or man) sing.
Ho, man.
I scoped some of Botero’s paintings, and damn. The man depicts everything… EVERYTHING… fat. He can make a basket of fruits look unhealthily obese. That takes some skill.