I bet it's not Aliens

I’m sure by now we’ve all seen the released “Alien” footage by the pentagon with pilot David Fravor?

Here’s a refresher if not.

So I’ve been following this story. I want to believe it’s Aliens. I so want to be alive when we make first contact, or at least alive when it’s revealed that we’ve made first contact (I’m of the opinion that we’re already woking with Alien civilizations in some way…if not directly but indirectly… Anyway, I’m a freak, I know. Whatever, not the point.)

There’s a couple of different things that lead me to my personal conclusion. The person flying that Fravor Flying saucer is human. (If there’s anybody in it all) So, here’s my thought process on it.

David Fravor says that that craft would go up like 80,000 feet or some ridiculous height like that and then drop down to like 50 ft in about a second… completely impossible for combustion engines. But combustion engine doesn’t really matter here because it appears to have no exhaust or combustion engine. But more importantly to the Alien question, what reason would an Alien have to fly like that? What reason would they have to jam radar? What reason would they have to zoom off all stupid fast and then come back? That type of behavior is reminiscent of somebody with a new car… You know what I mean? Hit the gas and see how fast it goes. Take corners fast, hit the breaks to see how quick it stops, you know, handling type behavior.

Now assume it not manned but controlled. Anybody here ever fly RC planes? What this craft was doing is exactly the shit you do when you first get your RC plane. You take it up high and drop it down low real quick. You zoom it off and try to do tricks with it. You fuckin’ play with it.

So this is my first train of thought. The flight pattern looks like someone playing with a new toy whether flying it or controlling it.

Next part of my thoughts on it go back about three months ago, maybe four, when Joe Rogan had Edward Snowden on his podcast by way of facetime. Rogan asked him straight out, you had access to all of these top secret data bases tell us about the aliens. And Snowden replied something along the lines of “man, I looked for it, but there was nothing there.” much to everone’s chagrin. But why would it be there as “UFO?” If, as I speculated earlier in this post, we have already had first contact there would be no reason to reference contact as “UFOs,” Unidentified Ariel Phenomena" or “Aliens.” If it’s in a top secret databank the UFO will more than likely be referred to by it’s actual name or a code name and any alien contacts would be listed as the “Robinson’s” or some other generic name. there’s no reason for any of that stuff to be written about in such obvious terms. So, of course it wouldn’t be so obviously listed in those data banks he searched using the terms he searched… BUT i actually think nothing was there because there was actually nothing there.

So, here’s that last part of my thought process… A couple years ago I watched Requiem for the American Dream with Noam Chomsky. Noam Chomsky is talking about how the American Tax payer is getting fucked when it comes to innovation and he uses airplanes as an example. Tax Payers paid for the development and creations of the airplane through taxes. The government then hands it off to private business (Instead of giving back to the tax payers who paid for it) who then refines it and then sell it back to to the tax payers. (Which is bullshit because we the tax payers paid for the creation of it in the first place, But really off topic and not the point here) So, I have no reason to believe that this doesn’t happen.

Consider this aircraft that doesn’t have exhaust and seemingly defies the laws of physics… IS the government developing this craft? Probably not. They probably had they’re hands on it first but handed it off to Lockhead Martin, or Grumman, or Boeing or any one of a number of defense contractors that have the engineers to make this shit. So, if you really want to know about these crafts you’re gonna have to hack one of these companies’ top secret data banks, not the government’s. But even still, you’re gonna have to know what you’re searching for because it’s not going to be listed under “UFO.”

What do you guys think? Is Bob Lazar right? Did we reverse engineer this thing from some alien civilization? I love thought of Aliens and some civilization that has mastered intergalactic flight. I want to believe. :smiley:

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The way the craft moves looks like someone playing with a new toy. Private companies develop all of our innovations so of course the gubbmn’t wouldn’t have anything in top secret data banks about it.

You obviously didnt read it. Cause that comment doesnt even address anything.

It’s so weird to me how far we used to go to discredit ufo witnesses and abductees and here we are fully admitting that there are strange objects in the sky. Not to mention Trump creating Space Force a new branch in the military during the same time of this small disclosure.

Fucking invasion imminent!

We’ve had a “space force” for a while. but yeah… I’m pretty skeptical when it comes to UFOs and UFO abductees. I feel like the bar is pretty high for believability. I wanna believe bob lazar because he seems to have had knowledge that others didn’t way ahead of the time. I wanna beleive aiens but I’m not gonna be taken in by some nutter with a crazy story and no proof. I don’t want to be taking in by some weird thing in the sky with lights. What do aliens need with lights? they’re traveling light speed what are lights gonna shine on? nothing!

That’s really the rub of it, isn’t it? Everybody has a pocket sized cam corder on them at all times and still no footage of little green Aliens. That’s why the David Fravor video is so cool. It’s footage of some impossible craft, it’s not some rumor, it’s not some unverified story, It’s right there for all to see. But I still have a hard time believing it’s aliens. I want it to be aliens, but the more plausible answer is that it is not. It’s probably some dark money government/business project being tested.

Yea I think it’s more likely that these craft are ours. UFO sitings usually occur around military installations so that kinda gives it away. Probably reverse engineered. We probably struck a deal with some aliens because we’ve only been flying for 120 years or so? I don’t think we can make that kind of leap in that amount of time, we definitely had help.

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are there other life forms other than us in the universe. well, hell yes there is. it’s arrogant and ignorant for us to think otherwise. are there aliens here on earth - nah.

If there are aliens visiting Earth, then they’re just the equivalent of teenagers borrowing their parents’ car to go “spook the normals.” I couldn’t imagine why a race capable of traversing the galaxy would EVER come here.

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They’re probably surveying. We may be dumbasses by comparison but I also think we have great potential. Much like how we look at apes…give em enough time and development and they may end up resembling early humans in a few million years.

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For the same reason kids have ant farms, I would assume. Which fits with your “Alien teenagers” idea.

It’s taken from the gun camera of one of our fighter jets. It’s been acknowledged by the pentagon to be authentic and you got Fravor’s real time commentary on it. So unless he shrunk down and is flying around some guy’s colon …

Well if you believe Bob Lazar (I can’t remember if it was on the netflix doc, Ancient aliens or his Joe Rogan appearance) -and I want to believe Bob Lazar- we dug these ships out of the ground and reverse engineered them…
actually I think it was his rogan appearance is where he talked about how we dug them out of the ground.

Lazar says one of them was an archeological find but he didn’t know where the others were from, the military had several he says.

It’s an interesting story but I try not to take these things for gospel. He may very well be a total nut who knows.

It’s not aliens.

Just saying.

Well, at least we now have Starfleet – I mean, Trump’s Space Force, sorry – to protect us… :slight_smile:

stuff is real and the real reason that it can’t and will never be admitted would surprise you, but the Church will never ever let that info out,think about it

Andy you’re privy to this “real reason?” Well, go on, don’t be shy, surprise us all with the real reason. Or was that second unsurprising statement about the church supposed to be the “real reason?”

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