I am one of the other users who has been “banned” from the Godflesh board, Tetragrammaton, apparently quite arbitrarily, and late, given that the thing I “did” which was “unreasonable” and upsetting happened a few months ago and nothing had happened since, nor anyone got in touch with me about it, although the thread I wrote was deleted and caused a general uncomfortable feeling.
I see that I was banned because, personally, one of the moderators doesn’t like me for his own reasons and RIGHT NOW, months after the event, he probably had a bad day and decided to punish me or whatever.
It would be hard to prove that I was a general nuisance to the board, quite on the contrary, I got along fine with many great people there (Chikenf1sh, Squiddy, Nick Bullen, Mick Harris for whom I made a video clip for Scorn 11 years ago, Beta Cloud, Joeki, Jbones and others, I even had beers with a couple of them at a Napalm Death gig in late 2009!), and several of them helped me pay for my personal desire to have a Godflesh t-shirt by buying half a dozen of them when I made ridiculous expensive screens for myself, to print a shirt I liked, and I custom-made 12 for them with different individual prints. A bit hard to say I was this “asshole troll” 24 hours a day.
This is a clear case in which someone bears a grudge and finally has got the chance to exercise some very very nice POWER. Good for them!
I was surprised to find myself banned now, I thought I could have been banned when I had my go at Doomride and whomever else was being a dick in a thread I started a while ago, but, whomever it was decided I should have know that the time between the incident and 11 of February was a WARNING time, in which I had plenty of time to “apologize” to Doomride and the other person, whomever it was, which, I didn’t feel the need to do and wouldn’t. They started it and deserved my vitriol, I’m afraid. Deadcase is not my father and doesn’t tell me who or when to apologize to, and if he want’s to side with his buddies and feel righteous, if that makes his little life better, well, my very best to them!
I remember even once congratulating Deadcase in his music, and this is what I get back! MUAHAHAHAHA! Evil always wins, boys!
It’s interesting to see how history gets re-written. In the thread that analyzes our expulsion from heaven and fall from Godflesh-grace, Streetcleaner, who I barely remember who he is, although I think he has a think for being a dick for no reason, goes on to say I am a “extreme leftist” (when my friends would say I am quite conservative) that hates people who buys records. I had completely forgotten this but then remembered: this is he distorting the discussion I had with someone, Blipseed I think, about being a manic collector of everything a band releases and how shallow, in the end, and unsatisfying, that is, and how it has nothing to do with music and it’s just a insane fetish.
I wasn’t violent or aggressive in that discussion, I just made clear points and stood my opinion. The fact that Streecleaner distorts it as me having a go at people for “buying records” is an interesting case of people distorting what happened and what others say to justify their position and feel “right”.
The thing with Doomride happened because I started a thread saying that the board was not particularly good lately, too many silly threads or little good discussion or links etc, and I underlined I had high respect for the people there and their discussions, thus was dissapointed. Doomride came in and said something to the effect of “Worse than uninspired threads is a thread complaining about bla bla bla”. I basically replied “Are you gonna cry?”, because, really, if you want to get inside my thread just to complain, to stir me up, to be annoying, you didn’t even had to read it, but if you make a point of being annoying to me, I’m gonna fuck you up, basically. Because you ARE asking for it.
Of course he proceeded to cry and behave like a dick and I brutalized him. Now, I have very bad memory regarding these internet discussions, and someone else joined him. Remarkably, this person tried to attack me with the most ridiculous things, saying things like “I know you pick dogs from the streets, who’s taking care of them while you are not at home??” as if that was a serious accusation and as if I had to explain to him anything, about my life, at all, and because I said that once I ordered a coffee saying, to the girl at the shop that I wanted my coffee “Black, like my metal”, which was a joke, of course, I was “perving girls up”.
All of this was quite surprising because this person took the time to actually remember details of bits of things I wrote there about my life and it also showed a desperate attempt to make me sound like an asshole because 1. I save animals from the street 2. I make jokes. So, he just used ANYTHING and everything around him and tried to turn it into something negative and horrible.
Of course, I was a total fucking dick to them when they started, if you want it, you will have it, but they deserved every inch of it, fuck them, I didn’t and I won’t apologize.
Blipseed, or speed, or whatever, calls me a pseudo-intellectual, which I see as an expression of his fear and the fact he feels threatened by people who articulate ideas better than he does (not really hard) and I think he was the insane collector of records, COIL it was the band, whom felt crushed by what I said. Man, if you can’t really express yourself and you have limitations, you do, don’t hate people who go further than you. I don’t even remember having an argument with him besides that very specific discussion which, as far as I remember was quite civilized, I only made strong points and didn’t back off my principles, and he hated me for that. Maybe I lifted up a mirror to him and he saw things he didn’t like? Who knows.
In any case, I never got personal with him, but some idea I exposed pissed him off enough to feel threatened and hate me because of how I observe things, how well I put them across (regarding how bad he does it) and probably the things he does. Oh well.
In the end, we were banned from a board. Sad, for I was there for years and made a few e-friends, but, it’s a platform for humans, with human owners, their agendas and feelings and views and not a democracy where you can say what you like. I did say things my way, and went over the top, and the result I was expelled, so be it, it’s a private board, someone pays for the hosting service I imagine (Deadcase?) and that someone decided that for his arbitrary reasons I did more than others to his liking and he decided I shouldn’t be there, it does not have to do, particularly, with what everyone else who uses that board wants or believes (or maybe it does? Hehe).
I do think that maybe a call for reasoning/debate would have been interesting, so we could discuss what happened without the passion of the moment, but that’s up to the before mentioned owner of the board to decide and, repeating, it’s a private enterprise, he doesn’t have to be reasonable or make much sense to ban people for one thing, or even six months after whatever event happened. He runs it how he likes it (whomever he is!) and he decided he would banish me and the two other guys mentioned, and that’s it.
By the way I don’t even know you, Melvins, or why you were banned. Although I just saw the videos you made and they were funny in places, I don’t know why you had a go at Doomride. Hoewever, the fact that it was HIM that caused me to tell him to fuck off in a brutal way and he also got in trouble with you… I see he likes to disrupt and possibly be an ass with people regularly. There’s something to him, since he’s been involved in two incidents with people expelled by Deadcase. And apparently he is getting away with it! Ha ha!
From the discussions there it seems you went a little over the top unnecessarily.
But, going back to what I said before, you and I were banned from a board. It was a nice board and I had friends there, but I wasn’t posting much lately and I was banned six months after the incident! Strange strange! Deadcase probably woke up with a headache or something and decided to exercise some power to feel, well, powerful I suppose.
In the end, why should you want to stay where (at least some) people don’t like you?
So, on we go with life!!!