Godfather of Nuwave Goth & Synth Pop

Discussion
1

Before the drugs cemented Al Jourgensen into the angst thrashing metal maniac he is today, lest we forget, I feel the duty as a devouted fan to state the obvious about Al’s past personas. [shocked]

He was the nuwave goth with that awesome industrial hairstyle crooning the vocals to Over The Shoulder and Revenge (those videos make me cum).

Are there videos for All Day, Nature of Love, My Possession, Everyday is Halloween, Isle of Man, We Believe, The Angel, Where You At Now, Work for Love, Effigy, I Wanted To Tell Her and Cold Life? (this is rhetorical Q. - just busting chops 'cause there should be video for every synth pop classic Al has ever done and he’s done quite a few, hey!)

Then, there’s those never released dance tracks like Same Old Madness, Overkill, America, Never Ask For Nothing, So So Life, He’s Angry, What is the Reason and I’m Falling which made me cum and shit myself simultaneously (oddly erotic).

Now that he’s closing the shop on Ministry, in hindsight, I definitely feel those songs are the greatest of all.

Most Favorite LPs (in no particular order)::::::::::::::::::::

With Sympathy
12" Wax Trax Compilation
Twitch
MIATTTT
Early Trax (Ryko Disc)
Land of Rape & Honey
Dark Side of the Spoon
Animositisomina

These are the greatest at least for me and every single side project he did is also my favorite shite of all time too::::::::::::::::::::::::::

(This is in order of most favorite & they’re all terrific)

Pailhead
The Revolting Cocks
Acid Horse
1000 Homo DJs
PTP
LARD
Lead into Gold

Barker’s USSA is excellent by the way and his Pink Anvil is very delicious indeed but I hate that prick Max Brody. Barker rules and I hope he does cameo on the last Ministry tour…the audience would cum 1st and then pass out. [blush]

Oh yeah, those live You Tube vids of Al crooning his nuwave classics are to die for…damn, he was modelesque looking. I’m comfortable with my sexuality enough to admit that Jourgensen was one very good looking mutha fucka back then…it’s no wonder the A&R and CEO’s at Arista wanted to cash in on his talent, they definitely new they could make AL into like a Boy George kind of success story…that’s a lot of ‘dinero’ for them ‘Fat Cats’, hey?[:(]

Good thing AL grew away from all that shallow glossiness and just did what made him happy…it’s just a damn shame he hurt himself so much with smack and blow and pills and booze and pot and Oh my God…how the hell is he still alive???
[shocked][pirate][shocked][blush][shocked][blush][laugh][laugh][laugh][laugh][sly]

By the way…you can all suck on my hairy black stinky ass, mutha fuckas!!![;)]

2

You lost me with the anti-Brody statement. What’s wrong with Max?

4

Al used to play new wave music??? Holy shit, I never knew that. Thank you for enlightening me

5

the chance that paul or mikey or anyone else will make a cameo are nil. that means zero.no reason to go back to total disrespect. and this business, especially amongst the players is all about respect.

6

It’s a shame how this has played out in the end, really. Imagine a farewell tour with every member of past/present Ministry camps getting along. Once the TLS album lineup was announced, we pretty much knew the tour lineup. I just don’t see any special guests showing up. Who’s left that would? Luc Van Acker, Jello, Ian, Ogre…and what are the chances? I suppose it could happen at 1 or 2 shows, like the finale in Chicago.

I have this feeling inside that I’ll be leaving the concert disappointed, knowing that they really could’ve banged out a few obscure classics. I hope I eat my words, I really do, but I’d bet good money we get 2 LORAH songs, and zero Twitch/Wax Trax songs. Fuck, I’d just be happy to hear Burning Inside again. Haven’t heard it live since '90. Even Breathe would feel gratifying. I just hate knowing it’s Ministry’s last hurrah on the road, and a chunk of some of their best songs won’t be in the set.

Please, Al’s wife, or anyone from the Ministry camp, tell me right now that I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, that I’m dead wrong and who am I to project about the set list, and that we’re gonna be shocked by a couple of the songs they will play. They’re probably not even thinking about the set list yet, but I’d almost go to Vegas to bet on what gets played.

See, I’m not bashing Ministry, I’m just frustrated! :wink:

1002

7

the last diverse balanced setlist was featured on 2003 fornicatour.

the HOTM/RIO tours (what was that… evildoer tour and masturbatour?) had terrible setlist with most of stuff being from the new albums…

not bashing either, just stating the facts.

also one can predict that the new live set would be “best hardest stuff” from the last three albums and some classic stuff (let’s see - nwo, thieves, hero, psalm69, mabye occasional diety or so what).

8

Yeah, the '03 set was great, the Animositisomina tracks were great live (esp. Unsung), and of course going back to '86 at a few shows was a huge bonus. The '04 tour was an interesting concept in that they got the new songs out of the way right off the bat, albeit 7 of them! I did enjoy that tour, but it was WAY louder than the '03 show. I partially blame the venue, and I partially blame the band (esp. after the RGB tour at the same venue). I’m sure they’ll be coming back to the same place (Marquee Theatre), so I’m hoping this time it’s not a deafening wash of guitars.

Even if Al doesn’t go back to '86 one last time, playing at least one track from all the albums since will make a lot of fans happy, esp. those who didn’t get to see the '03 tour.

1002

9

It’s a shame how this has played out in the end, really. Imagine a farewell tour with every member of past/present Ministry camps getting along. Once the TLS album lineup was announced, we pretty much knew the tour lineup. I just don’t see any special guests showing up. Who’s left that would? Luc Van Acker, Jello, Ian, Ogre…and what are the chances? I suppose it could happen at 1 or 2 shows, like the finale in Chicago.

I have this feeling inside that I’ll be leaving the concert disappointed, knowing that they really could’ve banged out a few obscure classics. I hope I eat my words, I really do, but I’d bet good money we get 2 LORAH songs, and zero Twitch/Wax Trax songs. Fuck, I’d just be happy to hear Burning Inside again. Haven’t heard it live since '90. Even Breathe would feel gratifying. I just hate knowing it’s Ministry’s last hurrah on the road, and a chunk of some of their best songs won’t be in the set.

Please, Al’s wife, or anyone from the Ministry camp, tell me right now that I don’t know what the fuck I’m talking about, that I’m dead wrong and who am I to project about the set list, and that we’re gonna be shocked by a couple of the songs they will play. They’re probably not even thinking about the set list yet, but I’d almost go to Vegas to bet on what gets played.

See, I’m not bashing Ministry, I’m just frustrated! :wink:

1002

quoted for fucking truth!

we’ll get the same-ish setlist. someone please prove me wrong. oh god why can’t we be wrong?

i’m nto saying play 100 old songs. but some obsure bonuses. like when they redid we believe, that was great, or when they had revco open, that was good too. songs i’ve never seen befoer live, that’s what i want.

i “drop hints” all the time on the pa as well, about how it would be cool for a crazy special farewell setlist.

but it will be the first 7 tracks of tls, then nwo, theives, so what, hero, psalm 69, and mebbe stigmata.

i saw them do 2 lard songs once with jello. and chris connelly sing so what. it was orgasmic.

10

Stigmata will always be a must. Same with NWO. Would be cool to add a little variety to this tour. Doesn’t look promising, but Al could surprise us…Tour doesn’t start off until march-ish, right? Maybe they’ll surprise us with a song or 2. And since the cover album is on the way also, so maybe Lay Lady Lay is a possibility. Too much credit and hope, I know. But it would be a little logical.

11

maybe the solution could be a tour supporting TLS and a farewell tour after that, for the fans, with old songs etc etc

12

As far as new wave goes. Al was nothing. He was out before he was really in. You can’t compare what Ministry did to the likes of Pet Shop Boys or New Order.

Both British bands, of course.

Where Al stood out:

He was doing an American synth-based new wave band back in 1982.

How many bands IN THE USA back then were all about the synthesizers? Very few. In those days if you weren’t playing with a standard guitar-bass-drums rock combo, you might as well be wearing a pink tutu onstage.

Al was an important figure in American synth music, and that’s a fact. It’s also a time long since passed.

–SKot

(p.s. - Information Society was another rare US band doing synth music back then as well, long before they were signed to a major label.)