This thread shows Prongs moving closer and closer towards becoming 4Chan!
[reply]I hate porn with a passion.
I never used to. I can thank Peter Sotos for this.
I was looking at porn when I read this.[/reply]
Hey, that’s fair enough. I ain’t judging anyone. I don’t drink, but I don’t take people to task for it. Because I know how irritating it is when I’m taken to task for smoking bud.
It’s just after reading Index by Sotos… the level of human indignity and suffering he details has pretty much put me off it.
I can see why people like him and Monte Cazazza, et al, are perceived as misanthropes. They don’t hate the world/people for the sake of it. They just focus on the negative and see it for what it really is and… well, it is quite overwhelming when you read it in their terms.
I hate people who protest against porn for the sake of it. They’re the same sort of people who sought to censor anything Sotos, Cazazza, TG did/do without realising that for all the filth and perceived misanthropy, their work is actually somewhat empathetic.
Neil Gaiman’s fictionalized version of Peter Sotos as a wormy little serial killer groupie was brilliant.
Can you send a link, excerpt?
I used to view Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, et al with that sort of cynicism as well. It seemed like they were offending/assaulting for the sake of it. Like they had a big check box of all the deviants of history for which to write songs about.
Have you taken the time to read any of Sotos’ works?
Because, having done so completely changed my opinion. It’s actually rather empathetic. Admittedly, the hard part is scratching deep beneath the superficial ‘filth’ to find what it is exactly he’s trying to achieve.
Have you taken the time to read any of Sotos’ works?
Because, having done so completely changed my opinion. It’s actually rather empathetic. Admittedly, the hard part is scratching deep beneath the superficial ‘filth’ to find what it is exactly he’s trying to achieve.
Empathising with Sotos!!
Damn, you and I should go shopping more often, Billy-O!!!
At the risk of sounding like an easily impressed lackey (especially given my tender years), that book has honestly changed a lot of things for me. Well, it was the culmination of many factors.
http://cn.last.fm/music/Peter+Sotos/+images/309802
To the rescue!
You’re forever welcome,
Captain_URL
Can you send a link, excerpt?
I used to view Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, et al with that sort of cynicism as well. It seemed like they were offending/assaulting for the sake of it. Like they had a big check box of all the deviants of history for which to write songs about.
Have you taken the time to read any of Sotos’ works?
Because, having done so completely changed my opinion. It’s actually rather empathetic. Admittedly, the hard part is scratching deep beneath the superficial ‘filth’ to find what it is exactly he’s trying to achieve.
No excerpts that I could find - it’s in the Doll’s House trade paperback from the Sandman series. The character looks nothing like Sotos - I don’t think anybody knew what Sotos looked like when it was written. I figure Gaiman had gotten ahold of a copy of Pure (which was about all Sotos had done at the time) and decided to send up his perception of what the 'zine’s creator must be like.
I’ve read very little Sotos. It was enough to know that I didn’t want to let any more of it into my head.
You only scratched the surface. Trust me, I’d feel that way too.
Until you are completely immersed in something do you appreciate the abject iniquity it is trying to articulate.
God bless you Mick.
Can you send a link, excerpt?
I used to view Whitehouse, Sutcliffe Jugend, et al with that sort of cynicism as well. It seemed like they were offending/assaulting for the sake of it. Like they had a big check box of all the deviants of history for which to write songs about.
Have you taken the time to read any of Sotos’ works?
Because, having done so completely changed my opinion. It’s actually rather empathetic. Admittedly, the hard part is scratching deep beneath the superficial ‘filth’ to find what it is exactly he’s trying to achieve.
I still love power electronics music regardless
Ah yes, I am re-opening the dreaded “Girls” thread. I am getting divorced after 17 years of marriage and will be joining the single among you in the age old quest for girls. I’m re-joining “dating” and the idea terrifies me! [shocked]
Ah yes, I am re-opening the dreaded “Girls” thread. I am getting divorced after 17 years of marriage and will be joining the single among you in the age old quest for girls. I’m re-joining “dating” and the idea terrifies me! [shocked]
Sorry to hear that, man. I could say something like “I hope it was amicable” but really that’s pointless, very few divorces are really amicable. The “dating scene” is always terrible in my opinion. I won’t deny that I have checked out some dating sites before but have always been skeptical about them (plus, for them to be any good you need to be in a diverse & populous area otherwise all you see are dregs) Personally, the girl “scene” where I’m from sucks a big one. Maybe that’s the reason I’m moving country. Or maybe not. Whatever you do be careful of the easier route of trying girls who you already know or who are already going out with someone. I’ve teetered on some major edges this past year (and still am, sort of)
Though now that the ring has come off you’ll probably want to play around some. Whatever it is you might want now, all the best with it anyway.
Use this thread for stories
Why bother?
Enjoy the solitude. Do all the things you couldn’t while she was dragging you down.
Since I dispensed with my headache, shit has come along beautifully. Stuff that never would’ve happened if I hadn’t have shaken that last bit of turd dangling from the hairs on my arse.
Here’s a little insight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tv16ich8FXo
lyrics:
http://www.gugalyrics.com/DEATH-IN-JUNE-%26-BOYD-RICE-PRESERVE-THY-LONELINESS-LYRICS/40809/
Thanks to Peligro for showing me this. Helped me get my shit together after the said shaking of stool in a big way.
Sure, you could be like Boyd Rice or evil dildo or St. Paul and give up on the ladies entirely.
Most of us can’t handle that. We have a biological and psychological imperative to hook up.
To which you have my condolences, because dating sucks.
Actually it has been quite amicable. We’ve lived in different states (me in CA, her in MN or WI) for 9 months now so I think it was a lot easier to move away from the relationship without it turning into a shitstorm.
It’s that 9 months that makes me not terribly interested in being in solitude longer. I’ve effectively been a monk (or at least a monk with internet porn) for nearly a year and I’m ready for a little time hanging with the ladies. Yes, I’ve gotten a lot done but right now my work is my passion (I teach yoga and manage a yoga studio and I love it) so I want to be able to go out and let off steam on those rare times I’m not focused on my passion.
Of course, I work in a job surrounded by cool and hot women but I’m concerned about the whole “piss where you sleep” type of thing. I’ve had a number of women approach me (one texted me asking to go to a yoga class with me in LA not an hour after finding out I was single) but I don’t want to fuck up my sweet ass job just for the sake of a little sweet ass.
I’ve joined Plenty of Fish but am not really impressed. Maybe I’ll change my tune later.
Sure, you could be like Boyd Rice or evil dildo or St. Paul and give up on the ladies entirely.
Most of us can’t handle that. We have a biological and psychological imperative to hook up.
To which you have my condolences, because dating sucks.
Not about givin up entirely. Just about taking a fair bit of time out to catch up on stuff neglected due to time expended on the ex.
Women can be good for us. A decent/worthwhile woman is usually a good means toward being able to understand oneself better. Likewise for the other way around.
Just enjoying what I’m doing too much at the moment to even consider it. That song has just put some sense into coping with the aftermath to begin with. Sounds like yer doin all right, gd.
Ah yes, I am re-opening the dreaded “Girls” thread. I am getting divorced after 17 years of marriage and will be joining the single among you in the age old quest for girls. I’m re-joining “dating” and the idea terrifies me! [shocked]
Sorry to hear this (and Amlux too) however you have a nice pool to work with seeing as how you are a Yoga guy! you should be fine.
Late,
grmpysmrf
but I don’t want to fuck up my sweet ass job just for the sake of a little sweet ass.
sign up as a student at some other studio… schwing!
Late,
grmpysmrf