Is this a parody of an old religious painting?
No it’s the real deal from the bible. It’s a little known work entitled “Bevy of Bitches.”
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That’s not how I read it. Do you have another source for this?
I highly doubt they would release a regular vinyl album, and more than one picture disc version of it. It did say 12" picture discs and in the vinyl world 12" usually means vinyl maxi single.
Presumably he’s referring to this:
as well as vinyl and limited edition 12" inch picture discs." .
Yeah, I’m expecting that to just be the From Beer to Eternity LP as a picture disc. But I could be wrong.
I highly doubt they would release a regular vinyl album, and more than one picture disc version of it. It did say 12" picture discs and in the vinyl world 12" usually means vinyl maxi single.
Unless there will be only one version of the picture disc, and the plural refers to the 500 or whatever identical copies produced.
Or it’s plural because there are picture and non-picture discs.
Or the “and” refers to a single version that is a “vinyl and limited edition 12” inch picture disc".
Is this a parody of an old religious painting? It looks like it could be, like the artwork for the Last Sucker/Supper.
I’m not sure if they’re a takeoff of any specific historically significant imagery, the way “The Last Sucker” was, but the two pieces are a nod to Biblical stories from the New Testament. The first is inspired by the accounts of Jesus and his disciples and their time fishing. Al is the obvious Jesus figure, holding the net. The art piece has put into “literal” context the metaphor that Jesus used when He told his disciples He would make them “fishers of men”
The throne one is a take on another New Testament story referred to typically as “The Feeding of the 5000” whereby there were 5000 people near the sea listening to Jesus’ teachings and the masses were getting antsy because no one had eaten. Jesus commands the disciples to see what food is in the crowd that they can feed the people with and a boy has 5 loaves of bread and two fish. Jesus’ miracle was dispersing this into ample portions to feed everyone.
Both “paintings” are obvious religious take offs from Biblical stories/ references.
Yeah, and the Al-as-Christ imagery is a continuation of the Relapse-era photo that had him in a crucifixion pose: http://theindiespiritualist.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/al-oil1.jpg
Ah yes… seeing bad photoshopped pictures is like watching an older film with tons of terrible CGI in it.
It is definitely better than Relapse. But a pictures of a turd on a popsicle stick would have been better than that abortion’s album cover. Actually a picture of a turd on a popsicle stick would have been kind of cool.
That’s a shitty ass cover if I’ve ever seen one. It might be better than Relapse but that’s like saying this piece of shit is better than that one because it has a little corn in it. They are both shit.
You guys are crazy. The Relapse cover is terrible for sure, but this is so much worse. Relapse was just a fat guy laying on the ground. This is Al’s head poorly photoshopped onto some buff dude dragging a bag full of goth skanks? And it’s supposed to be some christian allegory?
Ye gods that is wretched.
Gunnar was spot on with the Spinal Tap reference. I’m not sure they’d even approve this image.
It’s like, how much more gay could it be? And the answer is none. None more gay.
I like them. Al could be revealed to be the Son of God and i think most of the people here would go “Hmmph, not as good as Jesus”, hahaha. Cut the old bastard some slack, it could be good. I’m looking forward to it anyway, but i’ve liked everything so far except Buck Satan, which was pretty much total shit. Relapse was awful in parts but i liked some of it. The cover was definitely really really terrible.
You guys are crazy. The Relapse cover is terrible for sure, but this is so much worse. Relapse was just a fat guy laying on the ground. This is Al’s head poorly photoshopped onto some buff dude dragging a bag full of goth skanks? And it’s supposed to be some christian allegory?
Ye gods that is wretched.
Gunnar was spot on with the Spinal Tap reference. I’m not sure they’d even approve this image.
It’s still a fucking horrible photo regardless of whether I think it’s better than the last album’s. They are both horrible fucking album covers. Period.
It is what it is.
Ministry 2013 is not Ministry 1988. Personally, I’m a fan of 80’s cheesemetal and the lame ass machismo and sexist buffoonery that accompanied it. And that’s what this cover art is. It’s “Smell the Glove”. Sure, maybe it’s (hipster justification coming in 3, 2, 1 . . .) done as an ironic backslap to the goofiness of the iconic testosterone-fueled rock god of yesterday, but, whatever. We’re not gonna get another “Land of Rape and Honey” or “Dark Side of the Spoon”. The days of lyrical and visual mystery are over.
I don’t look for any “meaning” in Ministry these days. In fact, I don’t really look for meaning in any rock music. Ministry to me is nostalgia. Al is retired like 5 times over. All that’s left are jokes. I’m okay with that. If the song at least has a groove I can get into, I’m happy. But I don’t have any misconception that I’ll get much more than “1,2,5,M,8,R,99 Potatoes” with the lyrics.
It’s pointless to act like Al has turned on his fans or sold out or whatever the stock claims and accusations are. He did that long ago. That’s ALL almost 10 years old now.
I’ve heard the new album and I can say that “at least it’s different” from the previous ones. I like it okay. But it will probably still be shredded to pieces on this board. That’s okay too. Can’t really say Al isn’t asking for it.
I’ve heard the new album and I can say that “at least it’s different” from the previous ones. I like it okay. But it will probably still be shredded to pieces on this board. That’s okay too. Can’t really say Al isn’t asking for it.
Excellent! How did you manage to hear it early, if you don’t mind me asking? I’m looking forward to it quite a bit, and i’m one of those who was happy that he ended it at that Dublin show we saw, i was furious when he decided to bring “Ministry” back. But then i thought, “well, it’s new music by a man who’s given me a lot of enjoyment over the years” calmed the fuck down and realised it’s his band, he can do whatever he wants with it. Long may he run, i don’t care about his personal life, don’t really care about how he’s treated past members - i definitely find a lot of that distasteful - but at the end of the day, he owes me nothing and i make the choice to listen or not to listen. I’m glad now that he’s got one more left in him, i hope i enjoy it as much as i have done his previous albums.
They say it takes a pack of prongers to take down Al. Cause one one on one, Al would slap them down.
Hahaha, i actually “Lol’d” as the youth of today are so fond of saying [:)]
Can anybody confirm, I thought I read a real live drummer would be returning with the new product?
the album artwork is sooooo bad. then again, besides 3 or 4 albums, Ministry isn’t really known for cool album covers.
He seems to give the feeling that he STILL thinks he’s “important”. Like, all over the world, metal fans (not to mention the non-metal listening public in general) are either in awe of him or think he’s some kind of arch villain.
Does he think he’s attained the same level of celebrity worthy of a Marilyn Manson or an Ozzy Osbourne? Heck…or even a Rob Zombie!!! Does he sit there thinking: Man, wait til they get a load of this!! The media’s gonna go apeshit!
Truth is, very few people either even know who he is or if they do they stopped giving a shit a LONG fucken time ago.
His apparent self indulgent ego worship does not match his actual “celebrity” status. He’s a forgotten industrial (does that name even mean anything anymore?) “icon”. A goth metal has been, who was “popular” (or making headlines in Alternative Press, to be more accurate) for maybe…2 years max!
Yet he harps on like he’s Kim Fucking Kardashian.
Nobody cares Al. Well…that’s not true. Apart from a couple of hundred…nay a thousand tops…die hards, nobody gives a shit about your antics. Nobody thinks you’re funny. Nobody thinks you’re awesome. Nobody (apart from your own sweet self and maybe three or four buddies) thinks this new material is “the shit”. You’re a fucking joke that quit being worthy of attention back in 1999.
The only thing that most people who still listen to your music remember you for is the fact that once you had cred but have now pissed it all away in a comically cringe inducing and often nauseating fashion.
I’m not even going to bother commentating on the dumbass album artwork either. It speaks for itself and is as shithouse as the music will inevitably be. Buy it if you want. Don’t buy it if you don’t want. Just leave me the fuck out of it…
Buy it if you want. Don’t buy it if you don’t want. Just leave me the fuck out of it…
Um… You’re bringing YOURSELF into it, pal.
Nobody makes you post 1000 word essays here about much you don’t care, y’know.
Um… You’re bringing YOURSELF into it, pal.
Nobody makes you post 1000 word essays here about much you don’t care, y’know.
Yeah. I agree. That last sentence kinda contradicts what came before it.
Next time I’ll read the damn thing over before I commit to post!!!
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The truth is, people DO care about Ministry. They made a FB for their dogs that has over 1000 likes and their page has 200k alone.