So . . . It’s racist because only minorities are on drugs?
So . . . It’s racist because only minorities are on drugs?
It’s racist because only minorities get convicted for the most part. The conviction rate and length of sentence are much higher for people arrested for crack than they are for persons arrested (maybe) for using powder cocaine. See, if you live in the street you’re guilty. But if you dress in a suit and drive a sports car…you’re in the clear.
Let’s not even get started on why some drugs are perfectly legal, yet do irreparable harm…and some drugs are harmless yet illegal. It’s a racket.
I’d much rather put my trust and faith in an occasional pot smoker than some redneck cracker with a swollen liver from drinking too many Lone Stars.
21st century style Jim Crow laws from 3 of the most backward states in the Union.
Here’s a better idea. Let’s test farmers who take subsidies for drugs and alcohol abuse. Then let’s test each and every employee of every Wall Street firm who took Federal bailout money.
Why go after small potatoes?
I’ve said for years we need to drug test wall street as well as elected officials!
That is a good point that most of those on the doll vote dem… sneaky way of putting likely democratic voters in jail… but that doesn’t necessarily mean they will get hit with felonies. Only felonies will keep people from voting…
Speaking of voting how many welfare crackheads do you know that actually keep up with politics and excercise their right to vote. I’m thinking the margin is very slim.
Late,
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wemp makes some really good points here…
i am against drug testing for welfare because it is a dehumanizing and clearly classist move. if we are going to test the poor because they get government money we should also have to test every college student on financial aid, every employee of a company who gets general tax breaks, every senior citizen who receives governmental retirement benefits, on and every one else who gets help from the american government…
its easy to attack people on welfare because they are poor and can be considered less than the mighty working majority because of this horrible meritocracy lie that we have in america. i work full time, but am still considered before the national poverty line. when i was in school i was on financial aid, and i can tell you even though im totally straight edge (not a term i normally use) and a vegan who sticks to mostly raw food, i would have rather dropped out then be forced to take a drug test to be deemed ‘worth’ my financial aid.
forcing someone into taking a drug test to see if they are worth help is a fucking eugenics argument at its core, and im sorry, im not a nazi piece of shit so i dont agree.
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Speaking of voting how many welfare crackheads do you know that actually keep up with politics and exercise their right to vote. I’m thinking the margin is very slim.
Late,
grmpysmrf
Not many, but when coupled with some of the other draconian voting laws that Republican seem to favor it ads up little by little, district by district.
But we’re getting off point. Republicans only want to drug test that part of the population who they aim to discredit the most. The poor and the underprivileged. Rich white people, no matter how they came into their money get a pass.
Nothing like cruizin’ to Whole Foods Market in the Escalade and usin’ the ole food card.
Nothing like cruizin’ to Whole Foods Market in the Escalade and usin’ the ole food card.
I’m sorry but…you have no idea how racist that makes you sound, I’m sure. It’s a myth…a meme. Then again, if a white person in a BMW used a food card (which is difficult to even know since food cards are practically identical to any other kind of electronic card) I’m sure most people wouldn’t give it a second thought IF they had any way of knowing.
[reply]Nothing like cruizin’ to Whole Foods Market in the Escalade and usin’ the ole food card.
I’m sorry but…you have no idea how racist that makes you sound, I’m sure. It’s a myth…a meme. Then again, if a white person in a BMW used a food card (which is difficult to even know since food cards are practically identical to any other kind of electronic card) I’m sure most people wouldn’t give it a second thought IF they had any way of knowing.[/reply]
What race/group drives Escalades and shops at whole foods with food cards? IMO You read something extra into what I posted. I didn’t mention any race/group nor did I have one particular race in mind when I typed that statement. If it makes you feel any better, I hate everyone equally (sarcasm).
I don’t take issue paying for people who need it, but I do take issue paying for people who don’t need it. I also take issue with them dropping $$$ per week on the vice of their choice if I am supporting them. If they can afford their vice/escalade/the gas for the Hummer, they can afford their housing and food too with their cash from under the table.
I am not a terribly political person, but I do strongly believe that there should be regular, thorough and mandatory drug testing for every member of Congress, the Senate and the presidential staff. Who’s with me?
If expecting people to take a few minimal steps to putting their life in order before giving them a portion of my hard-earned paycheck is Nazism, well then . . . SIEG HEIL!!!
And no, I don’t consider is classism or racism or any other ism other than practical realism.
I think there’s a big difference between (to steal a term from above) the hard-working straight edge dude who’s just having a hard time making ends meet or has found himself displaced economically while he tries to land another gig and get back on track and some schmuck laying on a couch smoking meth out of a lightbulb with no ambition.
Are drug habits and ambition mutually exclusive? No, not necessarily, but as I noted earlier, it sure signifies to me someone who may not have their priorities set. And I would rather someone have an incentive to improve their lot and do something with their life than just hand them a paycheck with no accountability.
If expecting people to take a few minimal steps to putting their life in order before giving them a portion of my hard-earned paycheck is Nazism, well then . . . SIEG HEIL!!!
How wonderful it would be if the state governments of FL, KY & Mo had this in mind. But they don’t. This has nothing to do with helping people or saving the portion of you “hard-earned paycheck”. Don’t expect to see any of that $$ anyway. It’ll just end up in GE’s pocket and will be used to fund an all expense paid trip for some executive’s kid who deserves it less than anyone who never had a foot up.
If y’all lookin for some clean piss, I can get you some clean piss. No problem.
If y’all lookin for some clean piss, I can get you some clean piss. No problem.
Hey, I got clean piss too.
I’m going to check right now to see if cleanpiss.com is taken as a domain name. I bet it is . . .
I am not a terribly political person, but I do strongly believe that there should be regular, thorough and mandatory drug testing for every member of Congress, the Senate and the presidential staff. Who’s with me?
The rest of the Fed has to pee in a cup, they should too.
The majority of the House and Senate are independently wealthy people. IMO, they should be true public servants and have to do the representation for free with no benefits because they can afford them on their own (plus they get too many other perks).
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The holder hasn’t done anything commercial with it yet. But his home page is awesome, nonetheless.
If expecting people to take a few minimal steps to putting their life in order before giving them a portion of my hard-earned paycheck is Nazism, well then . . . SIEG HEIL!!!
And no, I don’t consider is classism or racism or any other ism other than practical realism.
I think there’s a big difference between (to steal a term from above) the hard-working straight edge dude who’s just having a hard time making ends meet or has found himself displaced economically while he tries to land another gig and get back on track and some schmuck laying on a couch smoking meth out of a lightbulb with no ambition.
Are drug habits and ambition mutually exclusive? No, not necessarily, but as I noted earlier, it sure signifies to me someone who may not have their priorities set. And I would rather someone have an incentive to improve their lot and do something with their life than just hand them a paycheck with no accountability.
just because you dont consider it classist doesnt make it NOT classism.
the issue is that saying ‘you need to prove to me that you are worth basic human rights’ is just fucked up. yeah, some people DO take advantage of the system, yeah, some people do bleed food stamps, welfare, TANF, and financial aid, but making people debase themselves to ‘earn’ those things is in NO way a humane solution.
‘i would rather 100 guilty men go free than a single innocent man be jailed’, you know? yeah, there ARE people who do take advantage of things, but thats what reforms are for, thats what the already very time consuming and embarrassing systems in worksource programs are fore weeding out. we dont need to add this humiliating element to the whole ordeal.
it comes from a place of privilege to think that people should just be OK with basically being accused of being selfish worthless dregs.
i would rather 100 guilty men go free than a single innocent man be jailed’, you know?
I agree with much of what you say, but this statement seems a little extreme. Do you feel anyone should be jailed when there is a 1% probability that they might be innoncent - as that is essentially what your statement says unless I’m mis-reading.
Better a thousand innocent men are locked up than one guilty man roam free