Damn it, Obama

Peligro,
Nice of you to ask about my parents and life. My parents had some rocky patches, but they did make it through. My dad actually went back to school when I went to college. He is now a project manager for an electric company and makes very nice money. Another example of working hard to better your situation and succeeding. As far as food on the table, we always had food. It wasn’t usually good food, but we ate.

Grumpy,
I never said I was against taxes. You read and see what you want to. I’m against raising taxes. I’m not even against the Bush cuts expiring. What I am against is this mentality that rich people owe people who sit around and do nothing. I did benefit from a state sponsored scholarship program. I never claimed otherwise.

As far as taxes and expenses go, you aren’t factoring in self employment tax, or my wife’s student loans, and surprise, my wife drives a car too. She must be selfish like me. Add to that the fact that I have a 15 month old son. It fits your skewed worldview to think that I’m living outside of my means, so keep on thinking that. I don’t care what you think about me.

Wish I could get a waiting tables job… I’d love to take a second job but I don’t need it, so I’m not going to take money out of the pocket out of some who needs that job more…

What a great person you are. Pat yourself on the back (again).

My buddies mom did 25 years at burger King she worked harder than you ever will, harder than I ever will, harder than any pin head ceo ever will.

LOL. I regularly put in 70 hours a week for my work. Your buddies mom probably does work harder than you ever will. That doesn’t surprise me. It must be nice to have the summer off every year.

And the hell you didn’t have your hand out for government money. you took a scholarship and subbed. You can polish it all you want but it’s still a turd. by todays standards you started out socialist.

Working is different that sitting at home drawing unemployment. How you don’t understand that makes no sense to me.

I prefer to call it blunt.

You prefer to call it to suit your opinion.

The last politicians to vote themselves a raise were the republican…

Then fuck them. I’m not a republican. Quit assuming I am.

I understand there are people who work hard that are struggling. I wish the best for those people and hope their hard work pays off. To the people who are addicted to drugs, who are lazy, who won’t take a job because they’re too busy bitching that everything is unfair and do nothing to contribute to society, I say fuck you.

Need to address Kill face properly.

Oh yeah, cos you just GOTTA have the final word. Gosh, wouldn’t it be awful if someone got the better of you in a discussion?

Wait…you don’t have discussions!!! You just crack skulls!!

Man, I’d love to meet you face to face. Fuck all this internet posting bullshit.

Keep this thread going. Let’s bury this loudmouth jerk for good.

The middle class is well on its way of going the way of the dodo.

Turtles. Fuck yeah.

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Grumpy,
I never said I was against taxes. You read and see what you want to. I’m against raising taxes. I’m not even against the Bush cuts expiring.

I don’t understand… Bush Tax cuts expiring would be taxes being raised. You know that right? But you said more than once, you are against raising taxes. I’m not bullying you here, I just don’t understand, your statements don’t make sense. What is “taxes being raised” mean to you? To me, it means returning the taxes back to where they were before W cut them because then they would be higher than they are now.

What I am against is this mentality that rich people owe people who sit around and do nothing.

Well, who isn’t against that? I’ve said time and time again normal people are getting screwed over by the rich, not “Help those poor lazy fuckers!!” The rich are becoming too powerful. That’s not because people are too lazy, it’s because the playing field is [strike]tipped[/strike] slanted in their favor. I’m all for welfare reform it’s needed, it’s over due. (Hell, let’s start drug testing government service recipients, how about local community services in order to get your check? Graffiti removal, Pot hole filling? Etc etc.) But what is going on right now isn’t people sitting around doing nothing thinking the rich owe them.

I did benefit from a state sponsored scholarship program. I never claimed otherwise.

Yeah, you did:

the taxes I will have to pay for 2010 because of self employment tax and other bs [u] programs that will never benefit me or my family[/u]

You benefited because some other dude had to pay bullshit taxes that will never benefit him.

Also this:

worked hard, studied and took chances instead of [u]holding my hand out for government money[/u]

Now, granted you did something with the opportunity that was afforded to you but the current problem is that with the continuing and current tax cuts, you are going to be the last of your kind… there will be no more opportunities, and folks like your family are going to be more frequent and have to suck it up and be told they aren’t working hard enough. It’s not right or accurate.

As far as taxes and expenses go, you aren’t factoring in self employment tax

15.3% and you get to deduct 50% of that

or my wife’s student loans, and surprise, my wife drives a car too. She must be selfish like me. Add to that the fact that I have a 15 month old son. It fits your skewed worldview to think that I’m living outside of my means, so keep on thinking that. I don’t care what you think about me.

What are you mad at me for? You have two cars and a solid job, steady income you are able to make it, slowly but your making it. You are in that middle class bracket. Granted, you’re higher up there but your still middle class. You too are getting fucked by the upper-class. When I call for higher taxes I just mean a return to where it was when the country was prosperous in the 90s.because you are still struggling you are obviously not wealthy… you need that tax break more than some millionaire and when you gain that wealthy status that’s when you need to start giving more back… granted you are not as bad off as many right now but my point is this and has always been… when the rich continue to get tax breaks, when it is clearly not in the best interest of the country, we all suffer.

I obviously don’t know you exact finances. But what I mean about living outside your means is this… is your wife driving a jaguar or a kia? Is your kid wearing baby gap or no name brand… My worldview is skewed by what I see around me. The only name brand shit my kid will be wearing will be whatever family members buy him, other than that no name brand is fine. My wife and I both drive cars but our combined car total is not more than 25,000. We live below our means.

LOL. I regularly put in 70 hours a week for my work. Your buddies mom probably does work harder than you ever will. That doesn’t surprise me. It must be nice to have the summer off every year.

70 hours on your feet? I doubt it. She did that often. I don’t have summers off. I work summer school. And I quite frequently push for year round school. You could have summers off as well. With your degree you could be teaching too. So, I’m not quite sure where you’re going with this… So, I guess it’s time for you to pat yourself on the back for not choosing teaching. What are you looking for here?

Btw way teachers don’t get a check in the summer time, so it’s not really like they have summers “off” but you already knew that and were trying to be crafty and play to the “lazy angle.” Shame on you.

Working is different that sitting at home drawing unemployment. How you don’t understand that makes no sense to me.

Granted…but what are you to do when you can’t get a job. Can’t tell you how many times I’ve been told “no thank you we aren’t hiring” (which is the country’s main problem now -even worse companies are laying people off) or “sorry you’re over qualified,” and that was back when the economy was “ok”.

It’s not like people are collecting unemployment because they have just decided not to work. There’s no money in the economy because the wealth is being sucked upward and horded…

You prefer to call it to suit your opinion.

So, you prefer to call me dickish ‘cause it suits your opinion…are we both asses or still just me?

Then fuck them. I’m not a republican. Quit assuming I am.

Well up until you’d explained yourself it seemed as though you were pushing their agenda. When you come at me with their talking points it’s hard to tell. “No new taxes is the mantra of the pubs”

I understand there are people who work hard that are struggling. I wish the best for those people and hope their hard work pays off.

So you are admitting that “hard work” isn’t the guaranteed fix all that keeps being uttered like magic words? And that’s all I’m saying.

To the people who are addicted to drugs, who are lazy, who won’t take a job because they’re too busy bitching that everything is unfair and do nothing to contribute to society, I say fuck you.

Well, no shit! But that isn’t the bulk of people right now. That’s never the bulk of people that collect from government services. Yes, there are those that abuse the system but why fuck it up and shut the whole system down for the majority that doesn’t? Just kick those off when they are caught. See? It’s those type of statements that you make, that make you seem republicany.
Btw those types of people can’t draw unemployment anyway ‘cause they need a job first.
Late,
grmpysmrf

Jesus Christ, Olson if you have nothing to add to this thread besides insults then just shut the fuck up.

you have offered nothing… NOTHING!! You NEVER offer anything. I don’t know if it’s because you just feel like being a bitch or because you just can’t keep up.

Oh yeah, cos you just GOTTA have the final word. Gosh, wouldn’t it be awful if someone got the better of you in a discussion?

there is no final word in a discussion that’s what makes it a… wait for it… … DISCUSSION! Jesus if you weren’t such a fucking re re you wouldn’t have to get so mad.

let me explain it to you (see this is me instigating a discussion with you but beware if you try to retort I will scream at you for “keeping it going”)
A discussion is a conversation with a back and forth exchange. It’s not a snippet of sound bites.

You see, someone posts on a topic, then others post back, then the original poster will post again and it goes on until either one decides not to respond. So consequently I still feel like responding to this thread so it would appear the “discussion” is not quite over yet

Wait…you don’t have discussions!!! You just crack skulls!!

funny you see it that way. I must have really good opinions. Jealousy is a stinky cologne on you.

Man, I’d love to meet you face to face. Fuck all this internet posting bullshit.

Why? you want your skull cracked for real or what?

So, you wanna meet me in real life… why? when you’re ready to cry over a differing opinion. I would wreck you… don’t come at me with threats, little guy.

Keep this thread going. Let’s bury this loudmouth jerk for good.

BLAH BLAH BLAH
Yeah? it won’t be you that “buries me”.

So far Killface is the only one that has made “points over me” (if your keeping score) and he did it by being rational and just posting to the points he disagreed with … unlike you.

Because this is a discussion and not a competition (or whatever the fuck you think it is) we’ve discovered the “points” we have over each other are just a misunderstanding.

I don’t think anyone comes on a thread with an intention to “win,” unless it’s you and that’s why you’ve turned so crybaby.

In all of your posts here in this thread you’ve just screamed like a little girl with a skinned knee about how I bully people… toughen up ya little bitch, and add something to the discussion, besides,

loudmouth jerk, lop sided aggressive opinions, You’re just an idiot. A loudmouth, angry, know it all, shit can crazy, bitter, twisted and most obnoxious, petty and all the more redundant, You’re just obnoxious, loud and stupid.

and after all that, my favorite

You don’t argue the point, you attack the person,

umm… I’m not you, little guy!

I think you may need a time out… Look at you! you are so worked up over my opinion in a discussion you are ready to fuckin’ cry!

AND you have YET to address any of my points you dumbass!

Grmpy you’re such an easy target I’m not even going to bother blasting holes in your idiot theories.

fucking cop out, you have nothing to blast, you dunce!
Late,
grmpysmrf

What I’m against is further expanding the government, making it more powerful all the while drowning in debt with no solution to pay it off, dumping money into wars, dumping money into special interest, returning favors for campaign contributions, and so on. Maybe the government should step in and regulate corporations a little more, but all of your answers involve pushing us towards a government with way too much say so in people’s lives, and finances.

I understand corporations, and lots of executives are crooked, but you’re insane because you don’t think Washington is. And if you do see that, you’re insane for wanting to throw more and more money at them. Who do you think politicians make money for? Do you think it’s the poor or the middle class? It doesn’t matter if we can vote them out. By the time they’re voted out they’ve already lined the pockets of all kinds of executives lining them up for great jobs as lobbyists or CEOs when they get out. There’s very little difference between politicians and the people you despise, they’re just getting good training. Besides America has shown time and again they’ll reelect crooked liars.

Push for efficiency in our government, responsible spending and cuts to stupid programs, there are shitloads of them. Quit acting like every federal program is on par with the scholarship I got. That’s a good program but I could give you a huge list of programs that are fucking silly. Push for an end to war, lobbyists, earmarks and pork. The answer isn’t to continue stupid spending, the answer is government efficiency and accountability. Why do you libs not understand throwing shitloads of other peoples cash around like it’s free isn’t the answer to everything? And then have the nerve to demand more and more?

You’re such a blind partisan robot that you don’t see that along with republicans, democrats also don’t give a fuck about the poor, or you or hispanics or blacks or gays or any other group they pander to. They want your vote and it gives them power, and power to spend other people’s money.

By the way, it makes you look dumb to act like people who work desk jobs or run business aren’t working hard or don’t deserve to make good money. Are politicians included in this group of lazy, greedy people who don’t deserve to make lots of money? They make shitloads of it, and they barely lift a finger. How would anything run if no one was smart enough, or intuitive enough, or ambitious enough to use their brain and not their backs to make money? Have you ever seen Idiocracy?

do you think you could foster all that hate?
could you foster enough hate?
are hamburgers degrading to your body?
does some body withhold shamburgers from you?
invalidate you hungrily?
has some body used you edibly?
any one drugged you for edible purposes?
any body performed edible actions on you as a child?
were your parents mean to you?
you have hunger withholds from your parents?
brothers or sisters mean to you?
someone try to abort you?
neglected as a child?
hate your parents.
ever mishandled as a child?
destroy your toys to get even.
been implanted with hunger compulsions?
implanted with edible inhibitions?
implanted with food as evil?
implanted with pictures of fast food?

any stops in your life?
been disappointed with someone?
have you ever pretended to enjoy food?
any thing concerning food you have withhold about?
any thing you’ve done that you are restraining,
yourself from ever doing again?
and yet you know you’re still a failing fucking liar,
to mock up a really fucking bad future for yourself.

you’re about to,
experience getting seriously fucked up.
and once you’re willing to,
feel that out of control and getting exited about it.

dump the fucking rubbish.
rise up.
rise up.
kill this fucking nightmare,
that is inside you.

Wait…you don’t have discussions!!! You just crack skulls!!

ROCK’N’ROLL!!!

No, I’M CRACKIN’ SKULLS!!!

Whoah!! Whoah!!

OK, stop it! Stop it!

OK? OK.

Everybody feel better now?

OK…how about now?

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Better?

OK.

I feel better.

I’ve already forgotten what it was I supposed to be angry about.

I’ve already forgotten what it was I supposed to be angry about.

Grumpy being a commie and nuts?

Why would anyone be pissed off at nuts? I love nuts. Especially roasted Almonds. The BBQ flavor kicks ass. Oh, and Chile Limon Corn Nuts totally rule too.