He should have done a country cover. Then we could all hear what Buck Satan would sound like if he ever got around to it…
I think that’s Buck on the “Stigmata” thing.
This is an evil earworm-infested album. “Under My Thumb,” “Radar Love” and “Just Got Paid” have been looping in my head for hours when I’m at work. But I guess that’s okay, since I keep listening to it!
This is the kind of cover that should have been on the album…
Ah… the good old days…
The Light Pours Out Of Me (with Ogre NYC 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjb7iS0ymI
Smothered Hope (NYC 1988)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eLa2qJQJHA
This is the kind of cover that should have been on the album…
Ah… the good old days…
The Light Pours Out Of Me (with Ogre NYC 1988)
[url “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjb7iS0ymI”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZjb7iS0ymI
Smothered Hope (NYC 1988)
[url “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eLa2qJQJHA”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eLa2qJQJHA
Score on both of these. From Chris’ book, I’m guessing it’s Sean with the blond hair that jumps on stage to help with the guitars. Ogre on vocals, William on keys, Bill & Al on guitar (who sounded really good) Jeff on drums and Paul on bass. Although in b/w, I would love to see the complete show.
no bunny
[url “http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gwY2_Nm1Q”]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06gwY2_Nm1Q
Al does a rap in the middle. [:)] Jeff goes crazy at the end.
great videos! i’ve always thought their smothered hope is their best cover. hands down. jeff is a great drummer - he seems to have done a lot of the drumming on this special era. is reiflin on guitar (on the right?).
we need to get this show seeded on DIME.
anyone?
acceptable audio quality, sux that the vid is black and white though
i’d love to download this dvd boot…
dime had similar one upped by bisquitodoom but it was toronto 88
Lol this sounds truly awful. Maybe I’ll have a listen. Still never listened to ‘The Last Sucker’ after hearing the abysmal mp3’s on their MySpace…
I’m actually glad ‘The Light Pours Out of Me’ didn’t make the cut. That song is fucking awesome and I love Animositisomina so I’m glad it wasn’t dragged through the mud along with the other songs that Paul played on.
Lol this sounds truly awful. Maybe I’ll have a listen. Still never listened to ‘The Last Sucker’ after hearing the abysmal mp3’s on their MySpace…
I’m actually glad ‘The Light Pours Out of Me’ didn’t make the cut. That song is fucking awesome and I love Animositisomina so I’m glad it wasn’t dragged through the mud along with the other songs that Paul played on.
That I actually agree with.
LLL and Supernaut have no place on this compilation.
LLL and Supernaut have no place on this compilation.
agreed. they sound (obviously) so disjointed from the rest of the record, production wise.
meh, whatever makes him happy, eh?
i remember there being a thread for the cover song suggestions, i wonder if the album tracks match those.
i just realised that actually this disc has only 36 minutes worth of… er… “material” if you exclude lay lady lay, supernaut, that stigmata minute, and the long version of wonderful world (but count two separate versions as two songs).
i just don’t get the point of this release. who’s gonna buy it anyway? this isn’t working even as a showcase of 13th planet bands compilation. i don’t even take the bad music into account, this album is a total miss. not too many new songs, and a lot of recycling - why yes, this reminds me of rantology (hardly any remixing, couple of album versions and three live tracks straight off from sphinctour).
i remember al being hyped about doing rantology and he was talking like how he’s in the process of making new badass remixes of ministry “classics”, and some time later saying something like it was forced and how he hates revisitionism and it was a contractual obligation album.
i guess in some time he would say that cover up was also a shit album that he cranked out in boredom while drunk, etc.
who knows…
what happened to their ability to do good covers, like light pours out of me, smothered hope, and that acoustic friend of the devil?
I have some strange idea, that the leaked material may not be the final product yet, but a kind of bait to trap the evil leaker as well as to calm down the filesharers and keep them busy.
But maybe this is just my last little hope on Ministry and I just took one glass of wine too much right now…
Although I never heard the leak and I’m not really interested in until the final version is out.
I have the entire NYC 1988 show that you guys are talking about on my hard drive.
Line up…
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what happened to their ability to do good covers, like light pours out of me, smothered hope, and that acoustic friend of the devil?
Paul Barker.
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Ba-ZING.
I have some strange idea, that the leaked material may not be the final product yet, but a kind of bait to trap the evil leaker as well as to calm down the filesharers and keep them busy.
lol, that’s like that hoax about tool’s “10 000 days” being a special fake album leaked by the band.
i’m afraid this is not the case either…
I have some strange idea, that the leaked material may not be the final product yet, but a kind of bait to trap the evil leaker as well as to calm down the filesharers and keep them busy.
lol, that’s like that hoax about tool’s “10 000 days” being a special fake album leaked by the band.
i’m afraid this is not the case either…
The RGB/TLS leaks were fakes too, right? No? Hmmm…I knew there was something fishy when the music just wasn’t up to par with other things under the ministry moniker. I believe it’s the final version that leaked, and also that it’s a failed attempt at a cash grab while the name ministry still lives. But after the “end” of ministry, we could maybe look forward to some new complilation albums like early trax and so on, which could be a good thing. I doubt that when “done” with ministry, i’m sure Al will dig into the vaults and pull everything out to sell.
His voice IS shot, but i’m sure he’s more capable than he lets off. And would WB actually own the rights to material that was never released? And i’m not bashing the idea of him releasing comps. after finishing with ministry. Many bands have done it: joy division, nirvana, etc.
And one of my gripes about cover up is that it’s just a mindless, and blatant cash grab. Granted, you need to make a living. There’s absolutely zero integrity in it and it was done only for the money. A true artist would release something with some value and meaning, with hopes of earning of living in the process. NOT just releasing and recycling a half-assed cover album. Hell RATM went out (the first time) with a covers and it had little, but some value to it.
But there’s a huge difference of releasing a piece of shit and releasing something decent and good, while being rewarded with such things as profit and fanbase.
The RGB/TLS leaks were fakes too, right? No?
It’s ALL fake, Neo … [laugh]
I believe it’s the final version that leaked, and also that it’s a failed attempt at a cash grab while the name ministry still lives.
Even the last three albums weren’t big sellers, instead they almost costed more than they brought in, didn’t they? (I have no detailed information about this.)
So why should a uninspired, short cover album be the cash-cow now? I don’t think it would sell any better than TLS or RGB, but would drive off even the last hardcore fans.
But I fear you’re right anyway.
i believe warner (or sire if it still exists) has the rights for everything from twitch up to greatest fits. so i think there ain’t gonna be any compilations from that period for some time.
according to al, they gave him very limited choice of “old songs” for rantology.
on the other hand, that label (wounded bird or something like that) re-releases the land of rape and honey on cd. no bonuses or anything, but it’s nice nonetheless.
Even the last three albums weren’t big sellers, instead they almost costed more than they brought in, didn’t they? (I have no detailed information about this.)
So why should a uninspired, short cover album be the cash-cow now?
Yeah, but this is Al Jourgenson yr talking about - remember, common sense just goes out the window!
This album will be lucky to sell 10000 copies.
I remember hearing the same dumb rumor about Star Wars Ep: I. “All these stills and trailers and press releases are a big fake out! Lucas actually shot an entirely different movie!”
Keep on reachin’ for the stars, guys.
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The RGB/TLS leaks were fakes too, right? No?
It’s ALL fake, Neo … [laugh]
I believe it’s the final version that leaked, and also that it’s a failed attempt at a cash grab while the name ministry still lives.
Even the last three albums weren’t big sellers, instead they almost costed more than they brought in, didn’t they? (I have no detailed information about this.)
So why should a uninspired, short cover album be the cash-cow now? I don’t think it would sell any better than TLS or RGB, but would drive off even the last hardcore fans.
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You’ve got a point. But isn’t almost every album Al puts his hand on usually over-budget? Which could be a good reason why there’s no cash-flow. He probably realized this and figured, “I can sue the other guy and make a piece of the pie”, or “i’ll just release anything, doesn’t matter what it is, but i’ll release SOMETHING”. Maybe to make up for his losses, but that still qualifies as a cash grab.
And that sucks about the warner stuff. If Al were lucky, he would be able to do what sascha (kmfdm) did, and just buy back the rights of his back catalog (which had to have cost a shitload!). But Al probably can’t afford doing that, can he?
And when he released HOTM to TLS, I don’t think he ever had in mind or cared about the hardcore bands since the 80s, but rather gain a bunch of “heh heh, I hate bush, heh heh heh” kids to buy his albums, get some publicity again since he hasn’t really had a shitstorm of attention like he did in the 90s. A buck for buck! Just his way of PR and alienating the older fans is pretty ridiculous. And you’d figure, a bunch of fans from way back say “i’m not a fan of the newer stuff”, and he doesn’t care. Guess the hardcore loyal fans who have been around just don’t compare to metal hammer and all of the metal mags for the kids.