Anybody here have to take shit from ‘mainstream morons’ just for being a fan of Ministry or this type of music in general?
Do people ever look at you in dumb silence when they ask what kind of music you like and then say “Oh…I haven’t heard of those guys before? Is that like…Megadeth?”
Or has anyone ever reacted violently when you tried to play something industrial at a club or party? That kind of thing has happened here before. I’ve seen one guy threatened and intimidated by jocks at a 21st birthday just because he decieded that some Skinny Puppy on the stereo might liven things up a little more than the Eminem tunes blasting out of the stereo.
well, not really, since i listen to other ‘types’ of music, so i can sorta dodge the answer on the question ‘what do you listen to?’. in any way ministry always gets mention, then they always ask me “ministry of sound?”. now that pisses me off every time.
the funniest moment was when we were watching tapes of wrath couple years ago, then one dude came over, heard ‘just one fix’ music playing and said “wait, is that rammstein?”.
In my opinion, a good party NEEDS good partymusik.
Good partymusic = harder and faster and cool music.
Harder and faster = ministry, chemlab, prodigy and so on.
Cool music = Butthole Surfers (shame of life)… james brown is dead =) always get good reactions to that one.
well. many people turn on r’n’b or soul or other slowdance-songs on party’s just becaus the think
“hard rock” isn’t a good choise on this party when all
are dressed up and such (think new years eve party)
WRONG.
If you turn on slow music… people just sit on their asses and nod to the music.
Turn on some “faster / harder” music and people will rise from their seats and start walking around and talk to eachother… maybe even headbang a bit hehe.
Most of my friends don’t like the music I like…
but they all agree that when we have a party at my
place it is always a good atmosphere… even if my place is small and ugly.
they are NOW after many years starting to realise that it has something to do with music.
Skinny puppy might be a bit overkill to put on…
that music is pretty hard to get into.
hmmm… why didn’t I write a paper on this while I was in school hehe
Yeah, I’ve gotten that kind of reaction from people at my old school, everyone there was either a big Killers fan, or Franz Ferdinand, Scissor Sisters etc. (Luckily I’m now in college, where fortunately enough everyone seems to have good musical taste…)
Anyway I’ve heard it all when it comes to Industrial…I played some Skinny Puppy for one guy on request; said it sounded like " the soundtrack to a hard core porn movie" (It wasn’t even Lust Chance or anything, it was Addiction IIRC… As for Einstuerzende Neubauten, it is “oh my gawd, this is possibly the gayest thing I’ve ever heard…” and so forth…
As for people reacting violently…Well firstly I don’t go to parties where jocks hang out Secondly surely by this stage they’re more mature than to threaten someone because of their choice of music, especially at someones 21st?! I mean c’mon…
most poeple just look at me a bit wierd then say “oh, that’s nice”
that jock story was awesome, reminds me of when i was in high school. i find it hilarious that someone had fools like that still hanging around with them at their 21st. pure class.
I’ve given up on trying to ‘share’ my musical tastes with other people long ago I suppose this is partly to my own laziness since I’m fed up explaining for the hundredth time why noise is music and why listening to metal doesnt make one evil
On parties I tend to just ignore the music. After all, I’m there to get laid/drunk and not to listen to good stuff. I can do that at home.
I’d say that I’m pretty fortunate to have the friends that I have. Many of them like the same types of music as I (a lot of us graduated high school between '88 and '93), and the best part is that I’ve become the official DJ of all our parties, so I pretty much get away with anything (but eveyone loves what they hear).
For example, I’m currently compiling about 8-9 hours worth of music for a New Year’s Eve party at my friend’s house, and here’s a few songs that’ll be on the playlist:
1000 Homo DJs - Supernaut
Coil - The Anal Staircase
FLA - Provision
242 - Headhunter
Pailhead - Don’t Stand In Line
MBM - God O.D. 12"
Nitzer Ebb - Let Your Body Learn
RevCo - Attack Ships Live & You Often Forget
NIN - Last
Severed Heads - All Saints Day
Laibach - Tanz Mit
Cab Voltaire - Don’t Argue
Haven’t picked any Ministry or Skinny Puppy tunes yet, but they will be represented. Of course, there’s also gonna be tons of alternative and New Wave, so mix in Depeche, The Smiths, Replacements, Joy Division, etc., so that’s pretty much what’ll be going down that night.
back in '92 i got the DJ at a house party in Koln to play Stay Away by Nirvana. that was pretty funny. guess you had to be there though.
seriously though, this thread sounds like a bad American teen drama. does crap like this actually happen in real life? no offence intended, it’s a serious question!
I’m usually pretty ghey when it comes to music. Don’t know what to say when asked, y’know. Tell 'em I listen to old Burroughs recordings, and they’re like “Oh shit, who’s that flunky? Jazz shit?” But I just say nope and let them roll with whatever punches I can muster.
But I’m not really in the habit of disclosing that kinda stuff. I don’t wear rock t-shirts so they’re pretty cool about that.
back in '92 i got the DJ at a house party in Koln to play Stay Away by Nirvana. that was pretty funny. guess you had to be there though.
seriously though, this thread sounds like a bad American teen drama. does crap like this actually happen in real life? no offence intended, it’s a serious question!
I’ve personally never been threatened for the music I listen to, my guess is the guy being threatened had on a VNV Nation shirt or was going for the Robert Smith look so deservedly got his ass kicked.
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i once played skinny puppy’s ‘left hand shake’ to a friend at a party… i only put it on for him because i had it on me and no longer lived near him…
everyone else at the party was a midrift or soap ‘actor’… needless to say they were horrified.
i realized after a while that i couldn’t get people into the music i like an so gave up…
i’m always suprised though by who will come up out of no where to mention they love the band of the shirt i’m wearing… SP have influenced a suprisingly eclectic mix of people.
Ministry, are one of those bands that you can’t seem to play to anyone. metal heads think it’s to ‘poundy’ and liken it to being attacked with a jackhammer…
(others say that’s what they like about it), but what’s weirder is the people who bring ipods to parties and have all this crap dance music, then will flick though and all of a sudden you get the intro to the 12" version of Jesus built my hotrod or something and they’ll skip it, you ask them to put it on again and play it through, then they give you the first 20 seconds and (usually because they’re talking to a girl or pole smoker… er sorry… i mean METROsexual) they skip it again!
i prefer going to parties where people listen to shit music. that way i at least know i’m getting the best of what they have as shit as it is… rather than being frustratingly ripped off.
when you’re drunk you can pretend to not be into cool music, but as soon as you here some that’s all you want… it’s just cruel…
as for violence… well people tend not to threaten me. i have a strong physical presence…
that, and i’m really good at talking shit to people bigger than me…
Barend, I do believe that was your longest post. And what is a jock/nerd hybrid?
So, we’re talking about parties, right? Fuck, I’m exempt. I did used to spin trance at house parties between '97 and '99, and every once in a while would throw in “Everyday…” or “Stigmata” for a laugh. This was before I ‘rediscovered’ Ministry, so I didn’t know about “Dark Side…” yet. Really too bad, as that album would make great fodder for sampling. Guess I missed out…never really had a problem with anyone NOT liking my music. I was that kid in grade school making mix tapes for everyone. When I got to high school, they trusted me enough to provide the party music (you have to have seen the crowd I was hanging out with), and now, I’m “that dude that’ll make you a great/weird CD.” You have to admit, everyone loved that kid in school, making the tapes for you. That should be it’s own sub-catagory of nerd - the mix-tape guy.
The only time I caught flack for my taste in industrial, I can actually kind of understand. I was sharing an apartment with a couple of college buddies who were all into Sublime, Rancid and pretty much any other indie punk-ska kind of thing. I had just picked up a Genesis P-Orridge spoken word cd; it was a buck, and no great shakes. I settled into a recliner, got high and put on the cd. They walked in to discover me high, listening to GPO just as, in his most Genesisy drawl Genesis drawled “little girls, MASTURBATING! little boys, MASTURBATING!” Got a nice pair of “what the fuck is wrong with you” looks, can’t say it wasn’t warranted.
Oddly enough, when I got just fucking sick of Sublme (who I fucking loathe in the first place) and Rancid and made them listen E.N.'s Strategies Against Architecture, one of the guys went nuts and loved it. You never know. I even got the other one hooked on the Bedside Toxicology album.
Generally, if I get flack for my taste in music, it’s for my unrepentant love of Pungent Stench, Twisted Sister or KC and the Sunshine Band.
The only time I caught flack for my taste in industrial, I can actually kind of understand. I was sharing an apartment with a couple of college buddies who were all into Sublime, Rancid and pretty much any other indie punk-ska kind of thing. I had just picked up a Genesis P-Orridge spoken word cd; it was a buck, and no great shakes. I settled into a recliner, got high and put on the cd. They walked in to discover me high, listening to GPO just as, in his most Genesisy drawl Genesis drawled “little girls, MASTURBATING! little boys, MASTURBATING!” Got a nice pair of “what the fuck is wrong with you” looks, can’t say it wasn’t warranted.
Reminds me of the time my roommate walked in while I was watching Pink Flamingos. Just happened to be the foot-sex scene.
Thank God I was wearing pants.
Barend, I do believe that was your longest post. And what is a jock/nerd hybrid?
So, we’re talking about parties, right? Fuck, I’m exempt. I did used to spin trance at house parties between '97 and '99, and every once in a while would throw in “Everyday…” or “Stigmata” for a laugh. This was before I ‘rediscovered’ Ministry, so I didn’t know about “Dark Side…” yet. Really too bad, as that album would make great fodder for sampling. Guess I missed out…never really had a problem with anyone NOT liking my music. I was that kid in grade school making mix tapes for everyone. When I got to high school, they trusted me enough to provide the party music (you have to have seen the crowd I was hanging out with), and now, I’m “that dude that’ll make you a great/weird CD.” You have to admit, everyone loved that kid in school, making the tapes for you. That should be it’s own sub-catagory of nerd - the mix-tape guy.
i think that WAS my longest post…
jock/nerd hybrid?
a guy really into his film and music and knowlegable on the topic, like my fantasy and sci-fi… but physically superior to the people would otherwise give me a hard time about it.
i’m tougher than most jocks and smarter than most nerds… if i was better looking i’d be famous.
i actually did alot of mix tapes for people and still do mix CDs for long drives that everyone likes…
i think it’s mostly now, because i know all the GOOD songs from the 80s… not the lame ones that end up on ‘best of the 80s’ CDs…
although, i’m proud to say in a collection that spans from;
iron maiden to moody blues
throbbing gristle to red hot chili peppers
napalm death to david bowie
Foetus to Devo
i can saftley say there’s something in my collection for everyone.
“Reminds me of the time my roommate walked in while I was watching Pink Flamingos. Just happened to be the foot-sex scene.
Thank God I was wearing pants.”
Hee! Nice one. On the movie front, one of said rommates thought Blade was such a fantastic movie that I had to see it, and in revenge, I made him sit through Meet The Feebles and Dead Alive. I won. Ruined some of the nice things in life for the little shit, I did.
Everyone here pretty much thinks anything I listen to is weird, and I hardly listen to industrial these days. I generally try to avoid mentioning anything besides Nine Inch Nails when it comes to industrial bands, unless they’ve said something about industrial music to me which is pretty rare. I tried turning one of my friends onto Ministry because he loves KMFDM and NIN, but I don’t he ever listened to them again after that, though he said some of the songs I played were cool.
Secondly surely by this stage they’re more mature than to threaten someone because of their choice of music, especially at someones 21st?! I mean c’mon…