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“Just to make the correction …i sang lead on Fire Engine,Devil Cock,Pole Grinder,and Jack in The Crack”
that’s so weird as I’m listening to the stooges right now. I think Fire Engine was my favorite of the bunch, and now it doesn’t surprise me why!
Al and Iggy in 83…that must have been something!
I should be placing my pre-order for the album this weekend, but I really dont need that whole itunes thing (I dont download mp3s, mainly except for the ones posted on this site! )
Spyder Baby Said:
Its all very simple really, in 1983 Iggy and AL were in the studio …Iggy did the vocals and AL did the music,the studio session made it onto a rare 7’ vinyl.The song got remade in the summer of 2005 and i was part of that process ,and it was’t anything legal ,it was becase his manager /friend had past away.
So can anyone fill us in on the details of this one? I did a quick Google search and found that Iggy recorded Fire Engine and another song called Warrior Tribe with Rick Ocasec in 1983, so I would assume this was all done while With Sympathy was being recorded, right? Also, I see that those two songs are included on a compilation called Nuggets http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00002MN3D/sr=8-1/qid=1140668141/ref=sr_1_1/103-5531818-4046267?_encoding=UTF8, so it shouldn’t be too hard to track down the original version.
Sweet! I love Iggy’s output from that period; though I rather prefer his work with Bowie five or so years before. I can see Fire Engine as an Iggy tune - I just don’t much care for the newer version. I’m glad that they’re doing the cover thing, and they seem to be making some interesting choices (Dark Entries? Only the most OBSCURE Bauhaus track), but really, why not have Iggy himself guest-star? It would sell more copies that way, for sure.
Update:
Ohhhh…I feel like a dick. Didn’t realize he’d lost someone close to him, making it an impossibility for him to participate. But I’m really glad that a) them dudes over at Revco asked him to, and b) Iggy actually knew who they were, and was interested.
Hope he’s okay soon; that’s always a shitty thing to go through - and considering Iggy Pop’s life, he’s probably lost more people than most of us will ever meet.
Still, I can’t stand that freakin’ song!
Yes. I had a feeling that it might be the same “Fire Engine”.
To my knowledge, the original 1983 versions of “Fire Engine” and “Warrior Tribe” actually contained portions of material that Al actually might have performed on, but was not credited for. It was recorded at SyncroSound during WITH SYMPATHY yes, and I also believe Stevo drummed or did some sort of work on said tracks.
There was another song called “Old Man Skinner” but I am unsure if they might have been involved. The tracks were released on Nuggets in the late '90s. Who knows. wempathy, care to share?
spyderbaby? HA.
no wonder these vox sounded like “manson”.
I found somebody with the Nuggets album on Soulseek this morning, so here are the three tracks from that session:
http://s42.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=2JM4L863OZAI43QTEWYMS3NMUN
Enjoy!
thanks
Wait a minute…maybe I’m missing something here but this might be the missing link in all of this.
Alan Vega (1/2 of Suicide) released his “best” solo effort in 1983. It was called Saturn Strip and had Al on it playing synths (he’s credited on this one). So Ric Ocasek, a friend of Rev/Vega’s, produced Saturn Strip. Al could have easily worked the ol’ Boston connection thing there for a bit with Ocasek and hooked up with Iggy via him. But I NEVER knew that Al & Iggy actually collaborated on anything, much less saw anything to an actual commercial 7" release.
Wempathy/Bisquit–you guys know anything about this?
More info on Saturn Strip/Al:
http://gutterbreakz.blogspot.com/2004/11/ministry-unsound-well-theres-nothing.html
http://www.artistdirect.com/nad/store/artist/album/0,,3014334,00.html?src=search&artist=Alan+Vega
Also, doing some more googling, I found that there was apparently a Fire Engine single released Nov. 2004. On amazon.de (http://www.amazon.de/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0001A9T9W/profistart-21/302-3009151-0636823) they have the artist listed as Iggy Pop & Ministry. If you look up the ASIN number on amazon.co.uk, .fr, or .jp, it lists the single as just by Iggy Pop. None of them have a track list or cover art, though.
Wait a minute…maybe I’m missing something here but this might be the missing link in all of this.
Alan Vega (1/2 of Suicide) released his “best” solo effort in 1983. It was called Saturn Strip and had Al on it playing synths (he’s credited on this one). So Ric Ocasek, a friend of Rev/Vega’s, produced Saturn Strip. Al could have easily worked the ol’ Boston connection thing there for a bit with Ocasek and hooked up with Iggy via him. But I NEVER knew that Al & Iggy actually collaborated on anything, much less saw anything to an actual commercial 7" release.
Wempathy/Bisquit–you guys know anything about this?
Yep. See my above reply. In fact, it could even be feasible that Al could’ve worked with Iggy on his album PARTY (or was it ZOMBIE BIRDHOUSE?) because it was recorded at SyncroSound, plus it was also on Arista. I remember one interview, can’t remember where, Al said he hung with Iggy and the greatest advice he ever got from him re: songwriting was “buy a thesaurus, trust me” and it paid off for Al. ha!
Al also worked with Adrian Sherwood on his On-U Sound label, credited as supposedly “Dog” (I believe he DJd under this name in Chicago, too). We already know he made material with Adrian for Tackhead, as shown in this discography, but are there others? I’d love to know myself.
See, this is why me and bisquitodoom need to get Al to interview with us. Someone suggested on here an all-balls, no-holds-barred true fan interview with Al, and that’s pretty much how I feel about it… especially since I would love to know more about Special Affect, Twitch, Carmichaels… yanno.
LOL, LJW, that was me-on at least 3 or 4 occasions over the last few years! I did, in fact, suggest the “no-holds-barred, no bullshit, no Bush bashing, back to the music only, NO hellbilly 666-shootin’ metal God persona permitted” interview.
Really, there are plenty of us Prongers who take musical lineage/influences seriously and don’t mind a little genre hopping now and again.
Good find on the Iggy stuff. I had forgotten about the Arista connection, in fact. Lotsa good music coming out of Arista back then('82-'84) that they’d NEVER take a chance on nowadays…Iggy, Ministry, Whodini…not just Whitney Houston! 
Spyder Baby…hehe.
Haha! Remember when this dope got lit up for having a shitty farm where the animals were mistreated according to locals and authorities? They were complaining about dead and skinny cows and the animals were eating the other dead animals. He was on the local news hilariously defending himself and sounding like a total hick. “Well, yup, ya see that there is a protein so we let the animals eat the dead animals because that’s how they get what we call nutrition, yessir, that’s how things work on this here farm!”
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I never thought I would have to consider the existence of Spyder Baby again but this article is one of the best things I’ve read in a while:
EDIT: To his credit, he was acquitted of stabbing someone:
HAHAHA!!! That stabbing article is fucking hilarious. He stabbed a relative in an argument over a beer cooler. Fucking white trash gangsta!