CHUCKS OF GLENN BECK ARE IN MY STOOL !

BTW What was the reason for the Afghan war? the majority of the High jackers came from Saudi Arabia…
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Al Qaeda

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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHA
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[reply]t least get your facts straight. The 110th Congress which began in January 2007, was controlled by Democrats. They still control both houses. Democrats have had 100% control of both Congress and the Whitehouse for nearly 2 years and control of Congress for almost 4 years. Care to rethink your statement? Or shall I simply say EPIC FAIL?

LOL ^ wtf does this have to do with anything? like that’s a rebuttal compared to the 6 years that Repubs had and raided the treasury for every last dime? wtf’s your point?
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You said, last 8 years.

Really? where? I left the whole post intact. I don’t see 8 years anywhere.

I correctly pointed out that Dems had 100% control of everything for nearly the last 2 years and total control of Congress for nearly 4 years.

Yes they statement is correct and they still have yet to wreak the damage that the GOP has always done for the last 30 years. What’s your point?

Repubs are as useless as Dems.

Clearly that’s not the case. Recession/depression is not a party platform of the DNC. Neither is shafting the middle class

If it were up to me, Palin would disappear back to Alaska, and never rear her face again. She shows up because there are TV cameras. No media, no Palin. She couldn’t even finish 1 term as governor of a small state - population wise. A quiter is an apt term.

Agreed…But these are the people that represent the tea party. So by aligning yourself with the Tea party you are promoting their agendas whether you believe in them or not. You don’t like Repubs and yet you aren’t calling yourself a Repub why is the tea party any different? That’s like saying “I like the Nazis but I hate Hitler and those that are in charge of the party”

I pay no attention to Glenn Beck. Just another talking head on TV. No different than Hannity, O’Reilly, The Ed Show moron, or the female equivalent of Limbaugh - Rachel Maddow.

Actually these people are all quite diverse… O’reilly, Maddow and Shultz are actual Journalists and report on stories granted they editorialize and are obnoxious about their editorials (none more so than Maddow-even though I agree (mostly) with her editorials her presentation is horrific and deflates the message. I don’t agree with O’rielly (but seldom) but his presentation is far superior to that of Maddow’s or even Shultz for that matter)

Limbaugh beck and Hannity are pure editorialists no journalism anywhere in their presentation…

but that aside BECK is the the Tea Party that’s his brain child! Which, subscribing to that Party means you are subscribing to beck and all of those other hacks!

I make no defense of Republican spending. They are about as bad as Dems and equally indefensable.

“About as bad as the Dems” Meaning the dems are still worse? You have still yet to say how they are worse. Republicans are the spend thrifts you can clearly see the who is in charge when the recessions show up and spend the most money on the elite…Elaborate PLease.

This is a great article and is a microcosm of the liberal agenda. There is simply no legitimate defense for this sort of behavior. None. Garbage like this is a key reason why liberal states like NY, NJ, MI, and the Rebublic of Kalifornia are teetering on bankruptcy.

“The Republic of Kalifornia” has been run by a Republican the last 8 years. that’s why we are bankrupt. He’s cut funding to everyone/everything and that’s why there is no money in our state economy.

For your reading pleasure.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704206804575468161974297870.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_sections_newyork

don’t have time to read it all (but rest assured I will like all the literature you post) but scanning the first couple of paragraphs I know teachers are reluctant to apply for other teaching postions because they lose their time at their said district…meaning you go to work for another district means you start all over and lose you time served with the previous district. Their banking on being called back so they can get their tenure which will not come if they start over…

I can tell you that is not the case in “the republic of Kalifornia” you are going to be fighting with an auditorium of other candidates for 1 position at a single district.

Just from what I read that is not “laziness” it’s not wanting to be exploited but I will elaborate more later (or revise later) after I’ve read the whole thing. but just from what I’ve scanned. So far this reads like and appearance piece. Keep in mind the WSJ is now owned and operated By FOX news. Just sayin’

EDIT: Didn’t know it was going to be that short… Rest assured we have no program like this in California.

JOEL KLEIN would seem to be the problem not necessarily the “system”

“Joel Klein, could place the teachers in job vacancies in schools and wipe out the ATR pool. “The fact that he has chosen not to do so indicates that he prefers to have the issue to complain about rather than to resolve the problem,”
It’s would seem Joe is probably friends with many administrators who want to continue to hire their friends rather than competent people that can do the job!”
Let see… some guy standing up for “corporate autonomy” I bet He’s a GOP guy.

of that 60% that hasn’t tried to find work, I’d love to know their party affiliations! Just because somebody is taking advantage of the system doesn’t mean they are a Dem. More often than not they are a Repub. Dems generally have a social conscience and would not participate in something like that.
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Anybody interested in the freakshow that is Glenn Beck ought to check out Common Nonsense by Alexander Zaitchik. It traces his beginnings as a drug addicted unstable shock jock to his new role as nutcase media prophet.

Anybody interested in the freakshow that is Glenn Beck ought to check out Common Nonsense by Alexander Zaitchik. It traces his beginnings as a drug addicted unstable shock jock to his new role as nutcase media prophet.

I read an excerpt from this the other day. I don’t remember where I was but yeah. Talks about how he was getting fired left and right and basically the clear channel invested in him after 9/11 and some other American tragedy. Basically 9/11 catapulted him though.
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If that were true the last eight years would’ve been a mecca of prosperity because there was no liberal agenda in sight… EPIC FAIL

Fair enough…
However, Don’t know if you know this or not but when the Bush administration was in power there was still no Mecca of prosperity. We’ll see if the dems, if they can manage to keep all 3 branches, can do the same kind of destruction that the repubs did … My money says no!

The country was dwindling faster than slower Under complete Repub control. and I’m sure you hate him but Mike Moore Correctly pointed out (in F 911) that W has Bankrupted EVERY company he has ever headed! now you can Add America to that list as well.

Once again, I have correctly pointed out that almost 2 of the last 8 years have been 100% Dem control. 4 of the last 8 years have been total Dem control of the Congress.

Why are you focused on 2 of the last 8 years??? THe damage to this country was not done in the last “almost 2 of 8 years”

Almost 2 out of the last 8 years. almost 2, TWO that’s not even a 1/3 of the time, that’s not even 1/4 of the time that the Dems had control in the last 8 years… of the 4 years that the Dem have held the Congress 2 of those years was them still handing out blank checks to Bush to keep from committing political suicide because you know as well as I do that the remaining repubs would’ve run right to the press ( that bastion of Liberalness … which if that were true would never run a story like this.) and said “The Dems hate our troops they won’t fund the war!!!” and the press would’ve been happy to run with that story for days on end.

Still I wonder why you are focused on piddly portion of time where there really can’t be that much damage done and ignoring the bulk of the 8 years? It’s almost as if you don’t care to know history… recent history!

Though I do agree, O’Reilly is the best of them.

Not for information though, just purely on presentation. Truth be told I think O’Reilly editorializes more than the other 2. he just holds himself better while he does it.

Actually the gestation of the Tea Party began by Rick Santelli on CNBC one day. Just because one person associates themselves with something, doesn’t mean everyone is automatically in agreement. So no, I don’t subscribe to Beck or “those other hacks”.

This doesn’t work. It was an after thought for Santelli. Beck took it and ran with it. He promoted it, he’s funded it.

If you wanted to say that Beck has hijacked the movement then where are all the people that protest Beck’s involvement? they don’t exist because Beck (and Palin) Own that group. You can pretend that it stands for anything else that you want but when truth comes down Beck has control of that group his followers do exactly what he wants. So to say you hate beck is to say you hate the direction of the Tea Party. He’s driving the train! Ya dig?

OK. Both parties are total, out of any sense of control, spend thrifts and equally damaging to the welfare of the country in different but equally destructive ways.

How so? Dems are for social reconstruction Repubs are for sucking all of the wealth up to their elite friends.
Tax Breaks FUCK THE MIDDLE CLASS! How so you ask. Tax breaks let the Wealthy buildup a ridiculously large supply of reserves. So. what’s wrong with that you ask… Well, the country is fucked right now because people can’t find work. Republicans would have you believe that there are many jobs out there and that 10% of the country is lazy. I say fuck you! Republican’s OWN the majority of the businesses (they certainly own all of the fortune 500 companies)

WHY AREN’T THEY HIRING??? Because They can afford to NOT HIRE anybody until the wage is so low. Meaning, they’ll let shit pile up and pile up and pile up (pretty much living off of their reserves because the rich can live off of a tax break while the middle class can get a happy meal with theirs. See the problem yet? … probably not) soon people are so desperate they are willing to work under the table for lower than minimum wage. Or take far less for a job that is worth far more! By sitting on all of that cash (something to the tune of a combined total of 2 trillion) they are driving the standard of living down for everyone else. W’s tax breaks, FUCK YOU!

Yes, the Govenator has been horrendous. He should use his veto pen. However, spending is in control of congress. You know that.

What spending? there is no spending. Arnold himself is putting people out of work and cutting pay and lessening the number of days worked by adding fur low days where people don’t go to work or get paid! By doing this the state is going into even deeper recession.

The Kalifornia congress has been overwhelming Democrat basically forever. You don’t run a giant deficit by not over spending.

once again there is no money, there is nothing to spend on!

Nor can you spend your way out of debt.

Bullshit! you can absolutely spend you way out of debt. Look at japan. what does a business do when it goes in the red? It gets a fuckin loan! How do you get capital when you start a business oh that’s right you get a loan, meaning you are spending your way out of the red …are you sure you majored in business because that seems like the most basic tenets of business. If people couldn’t spend their way out of debt there would be no reason for banks to give loans would there?

You know you say you don’t like the RNC or Beck but you certainly spout their talking points an awful lot!

For your reading pleasure.
You mean they might have to get another job and start someplace else like the rest of society? We can’t have that can we. No. That would be a true crime against humanity.

Except that it opens them up to exploitation. which is going on right now in Ca. They take another job with another district they say goodbye to their seniority which means yes they have to start over (not a big deal) except by starting over means that another school district can use you for 2 years and then kick your ass out again (regardless of what kind of teacher you are -mostly to save money GASP you mean Districts don’t give a fuck about the students that it serves? cruel reality, deal with it!) Which means you get no security you are constantly starting over and you never make any headway and makes you reluctant to make new colleague friends because who knows how long you will be there. Very isolating.

Do they deserve a severance? Yes. Do they deserve to be paid until they die because they can’t or won’t look for another position? Absolutely not. Nobody deserves to be paid forever by their employer for simply breathing. Nobody Not teachers. Not engineers. Not farmers. Not CEOs. Nobody.

They do if said employer refuses to hire them back even though they need teachers. That guy wants to give principles free market choices… FUCK THAT put those $80,000 back to work! Oh no, but principle “JOB GOD” doesn’t want “old guard teacher number 3” he wants the big tittied blond teacher! Please!! the problem is with management not the program!

The article doesn’t mention laziness. But again, nobody deserves to be paid for life for refusing to look for work.

Really? well what do you think that article was implying for that 60%?

Keep in mind the WSJ is now owned and operated By FOX news. Just sayin’

Irrelevant. WSJ is a generally well respected news organization. [/reply]
Completely relevant. Now that Murdock is at the reins expect to see a one sided stories and carefully selected editorials! WAS a generally well respected news organization.Hell my local News paper is that way and they have no way the influence and clout that the WSJ had.

Regardless, the article is factual.

facts can still be lies if presented out of context.

I never said the teachers in question were Dems, nor did the WSJ or even imply such. However, Teachers are overwhelmingly Dem.

no you just called it a “liberal spending spree” or something to that effect. as far as teachers being dems not in my county!! they all complain about “the socialist president” while they cash their socialist teaching checks. Idiots. They are all tuned into fox news like the rest of dumb asses in the country!

Dems have a social conscience - like the Kilpatrick regime? or Charlie Rangel? or William Jefferson? or Maxine Waters? or the head of the Democratic party in Oakland county as well as the director who both suddenly resigned “to pursue other opportunities” because they are being investigated with fraudulantly registering people under the “Tea Party” banner? Or Blago? John Kerry? Tim Geithner?I could go on. Democrats are just as crooked as Republicans.

there is not to say each party has it’s stand out assholes. As far as I’m concerned the Repubs have more. But back on topic I’m speaking more to the party ideals more so than individual members. Clearly You’ve shown me that the kilpatricks embody all of the greed promoted by republicans.

A bit more about Mr. Geithner: Geithner was president of the NY Fed starting in 2003. The NY Fed was resposible for overseeing the Wall Street investment banks that were in no small part responsible for the mess we are in today.

No No No No No. Republican and Tea Party Mantra: DEREGULATION. He may have “over saw it” doesn’t mean he could do anything about it because then it would be “government treading on me!”

Remember “less government so the market will regulate itself”? Probably forgot that now that there is some accountability to be had… Not only that, is that the new RNC talking point? because before it was Geithner, it was Barney Frank’s mess cause he was head of some committee and before it was Barney Frank’s fault it was all Bill Clinton’s fault. So I guess Geithner is the the new boogieman! can’t wait to see whose fault it is next week

Some of the banks he was directly responsible for were Goldman, JPM, Meryl Lynch, Bear, and of course the now infamous Lehman Bros. As you should be aware, the failure of Lehman was the flash point for precipitating the financial crisis of today.

ALL RUN BY REPUBLICANS!!!

As you should also be aware, Mr. Obama appointed Geithner to Treasury. Which, of course, the IRS reports to. Some how Mr. Geithner “forgot” he had to pay taxes stunning as it may seem. Oddly Mr. Rangel “forgot” he had to pay taxes as well.

I give these guys a pass on this and before you get your panties all ruffled I give Repubs a pass on this as well. People with that amount of money do not do their own taxes. They have a tax company on retainer. Whatever fuck ups have occurred whether intentional or not are on these tax Companies. I’m sure rich people are just like common folk in that they don’t know their way around a tax form. They hire people to do it for them just like all of us. If our tax company fucks up we don’t know about it until we’re hit with a penalty doesn’t mean we were skirting our duties.

Because those people didn’t get their shit filed in on time or completely didn’t do it just means a tax company is getting fired and new one is being brought in.

The only time I find these situations detestable is if the situation is not remedied immediately. Which most times they often are. Dems and Repubs alike.

Mr. Kerry, well, he simply forgot he docks his yaht in another state thus avoiding a large tax bill.

1 of 2 things.

#1 Kerry married the Ketchup queen of the world. How many boats does he have? Could be that he forgot he had a boat there (McCain forgot how many fuckin houses he had! is it that much of a stretch? Boats are smaller than houses!)

#2 Kerry is a deuche and thought he was pulling a fast one…

either way it’s paid up! dead end point.

By total happenstance, these gentlemen strongly support higher taxes. If taxes were such a priority, you’d think they’d remember to pay them.

again it’s on the companies they hire…
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[reply] out there and that 10% of the country is lazy. I say fuck you! Republican’s OWN the majority of the businesses (they certainly own all of the fortune 500 companies)


everyone else. W’s tax breaks, FUCK YOU!

You seem to have some chronic inability to be civil with anyone whom you may disagree with. I haven’t been rude with you, no need to be rude with me.
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Are you kidding me? For real? After all of that, you take general statements of dissatisfaction and apply them pointedly to yourself? thus being able to ignore everything else. I wasn’t saying “Fuck you” to you specifically.

We’ve been carrying on back on forth through PM and board posts for roughly 6 mos. I don’t remember being rude to you ever before and now you want to come at me with this? Doesn’t it strike you as out of character?
Well, sorry I hurt your feelings there little fella’ (yes that one was pointed at you!)

[reply]Some of the banks he was directly responsible for were Goldman, JPM, Meryl Lynch, Bear, and of course the now infamous Lehman Bros. As you should be aware, the failure of Lehman was the flash point for precipitating the financial crisis of today.

ALL RUN BY REPUBLICANS!!!

If you’d do just a bit of research, you might come off as informed but your statement is not correct.

Lloyd Blanfien - Goldman is a Democrat.
Jamie Dimon - JPM is a Democrat
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Real Democrats or just “show” democrats? Like, maddoff and his piddly show of 2,500 bucks to the DNC which apparently qualifies him as a democrat.
I’m not buying it. Plus, Even if they are (which I seriously doubt) you got 2 out of that list.
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