Borrowed Songs From Over The Years

I love Ministry as much as the next guy - more probably, truth be told :slight_smile: - but one thing that’s always struck me are the songs that borrow a bit from other artists.
Not necessarily specific borrowed elements and certainly not samples, but times when you can hear an inspiration nonetheless.

Like comparing Positive Noise’s No More Blood And Soil to I’m Falling:
https://youtu.be/MixZvvxrHas

Or Big Black’s Racer X with Stigmata:
https://youtu.be/JwtJ_kT_FSU

Or Scarecrow and When The Levee Breaks:
https://youtu.be/uwiTs60VoTM

Or that Alien Christmas son and A Flock Of Seagull’s Space Age Lovesong
https://youtu.be/gOK3rqVgN2I

I’m probably forgetting some, but I think that should be enough examples.
Not a sample, or a complete copy, but when you hear them both you can definitely tell there’s some inspiration.
Not that it’s a bad thing… I mean FLA basically borrowed every New Order baseline during their golden period. Just strange that there would be several from decently big contemporary groups.

Anybody think of any others?

I always felt the bones of “So What” had some “Bela Lugosi’s Dead” in them.

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The first version of I’m Falling always reminds me of Seventeen Seconds/Faith eras of The Cure.

No Devotion has a striking resemblance to Jean-Michel Jarre’s Wooloomooloo, but it’s enitrely possible that they used the same Fairlight preset loops.

I hear some of Killing Joke’s “The Wait” in “Man Should Surrender.”

Heh. “The Wait” is so good it was remade multiple times - “Wargasm” from Amerikkkant is another example. Identical riff in the chorus of both songs.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQ9-r8Al84Q

This one reminds of something around the With Sympathy time.

Good one!
I thought this too.

I was listening to some old Devo the other day and I heard a song that reminded me very much of Ministry from a few years later. I don’t remember the name of either the Devo or Ministry songs, unfortunately.
No surprise, I guess, now that we’ve heard Al cover Caves of Steel.

I came across this song by The Flowerpot Men (Ben Watkins’ pre-Juno Reactor band) and can’t help but think this was the template for “You Know What You Are.” Keep in mind this song dates to 1984:

https://youtu.be/JOT7f1Zyu-s

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@brandtrax Oh wow, that’s exactly what I was talking about. That synth’s not exact, but oh so close. Like someone was playing it from memory or something.

That’s a killer track too. Completely off my radar, but I’m definitely going to check it out. For 1984, that’s absolutely crazy.

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@realmdemagic That’s crazy too! I can’t remember if I’ve heard it before, but that’s pretty dead on.
I bet those sounds are Fairlight presets, but I think that’s just too close to be coincidence.

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That’s a pretty badass song.
It’s like the missing link between Suicide and Ministry.

Too bad the only song of theirs on Spotify is a cut from the Ferris Bueller soundtrack.

HAHA!!! Nailed it. I just clicked on the track and when the music kicked in, I’m like, “Okay, there’s the LORAH-era Ministry.” And then the vocals came in, hahhaha. “Oh, hello, Suicide!”

Suicide were so unique and good…some of their music can scare the crap out of you haha

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Totally, haha! I came to 'em quite late. I think I heard Henry Rollins talking about 'em in some interview and dove in with “Frankie Teardrop” and “Ghost Rider”. It was wild, haha. And, yeah, so unique. I’ll usually go backwards to find some band/artist I’d not checked out before and think, “Oh, right, this started [insert newer band that sounds like the original stuff]…”, but Suicide were definitely stand alones, hahaha!

Yeah,they are the blueprint…some of their solo shit is really cool but still nothing like those first two Suicide albums…so weird that one of them is produced by Ric Ocasek…so strange that the guy from the Cars produced Suicide and Bad Brains…

Al worked on that Alan Vega album Ocasek produced, too.
It’s all a big interconnected web.

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Yeah Al was on the first track from what I recall…

No shit? I knew Ocasek produced some Suicide stuff, but this is the first I’d heard of him working on Bad Brains. That one is really unexpected. He was so cool.

I never heard it, but I’d always see it in the Ministry section at one of the record stores down here 30 years ago. Might still be there, haha.