Blade Runner

Prometheus was UNWATCHABLE.

Prometheus wasn’t unwatchable, but it was certainly sloppy and a missed opportunity. Also it stars Charlize Theron who fucking RUINS everything she stars in.

RUINS!

and now he is planning a Blade Runner Sequel that will tie both Prometheus and Blade Runner together…

He is?!?!

I’m a bit iffy on Blade Runner. Never really bought into the hype. For the most part it’s drab and dull and doesn’t seem to go anywhere. Also the ending is the most anti climactic ending in cinematic history.

Yeah, i definitely think a direct Blade Runner sequel with Deckard is a terrible idea, and it would disprove his theory that Deckard’s a replicant, because with the age Ford is now, surely his lifespan would have ended? He’ll probably have some stupid get-out for that too, “errr, they found a way in the intervening period to extend the lives of useful replicants”.

I think he’s a very talented man, Ridley Scott, but he’s a bullshitter and is busy trying to rake over past glories and make some coin. These sequels, “they’re either a benefit or a hazard. If they’re a benefit, it’s not my problem”. Sadly, i think they fall more into the hazard category, as did The Final Cut. I defended Blade Runner for years to people i know who didn’t like it, but Ridley Scott (or Diddley Squat as we call him in my house) pretty much destroyed my love for it by releasing that hundredth version. 2 was enough.

I liked Prometheus well enough, i had low expectations and like Fassbender, but i’ve agreed with pretty much every criticism i’ve ever heard of it. I spent a lot of the film rolling my eyes and exhaling loudly in frustration. The few good bits were great, the rest was frustratingly, laughably rubbish.

Prometheus wasn’t unwatchable, but it was certainly sloppy and a missed opportunity. Also it stars Charlize Theron who fucking RUINS everything she stars in.

RUINS!

Man, i hate her too, i don’t know why, but ever since i saw her in that 2 Days in the valley film, which i think might have been her first, i’ve just hated her. That line in Prometheus where she’s talking to Weyland, and ends it with “…father”, terrible, i just burst out laughing at a) her delivery and b) it was a totally useless development. There was so much underdeveloped good stuff and other…just… shite "twists in Prometheus, as well as laugh out loud unintentional comedy, that it almost ruined the film.

And as for it being LV 223 and not LV246 - why?! So they can squeeze another film out of it. It set it up to seem like that might be the planet, but - aha - no, it’s not, and we need yet more nonsense to get to that point where another engineer ship crashes on a planet, spilling it’s alien load carelessly. I’ll watch the sequel to Prometheus, but will expect even less. I know Blade Runner’s sequel is planned but i doubt it’ll happen, thank fuck.

Definitely in my top ten. Love everything about it-the story, the message, the visuals and the music.

I believe Deckard is a replicant.

Love this movie. The Final Cut confirms that Deckard is a Replicant. Each Replicant is given a “reveal” in the form of an eye glow that occurs. (Much like redeye in a photo) Deckard’s is when he looks at Rachel in the mirror.

Man, i hate her too, i don’t know why, but ever since i saw her in that 2 Days in the valley film, which i think might have been her first, i’ve just hated her. That line in Prometheus where she’s talking to Weyland, and ends it with “…father”, terrible, i just burst out laughing at a) her delivery and b) it was a totally useless development.

She’s fucking plastic. When it comes to serious drama she just gets it all wrong. I can imagine her playing a wealthy bitch in a chick flick but…that’s about it.

There was so much underdeveloped good stuff and other…just… shite "twists in Prometheus, as well as laugh out loud unintentional comedy, that it almost ruined the film.

Yes, we ended up with a film that stood for very little. Just a mish mash of half baked ideas and really, really stupid and annoying characters who for the most part acted like dumbass surburbanites on a reality tv show instead of the “professionals” they were supposed to portray.

It could have been so much and ended up being so little. Nothing was achieved, nothing was resolved, nothing seemed to have a point. And to boot, there were a bunch of totally miscast actors with neither the presence nor the gravitas needed to pull it off.

In the end it amounted to little more than an episode of Lost In Space directed by David Fincher.

Also a favorite movie of mine. When I first saw this film it absolutely blew me away, also that scene, one of the most epic scenes of ALL TIME. I believe The Revolting Cocks song Attack The Ships On Fire snagged the name from this movie.

AND WTF? Deckard is a replicant?

And about the Blade Runner sequel, thought I heard it was going to be a reboot or remake, not a sequel. I could be wrong.

I believe The Revolting Cocks song Attack The Ships On Fire snagged the name from this movie.

Yes.

AND WTF? Deckard is a replicant?

Yes.

And about the Blade Runner sequel, thought I heard it was going to be a reboot or remake, not a sequel. I could be wrong.

It is a sequel, but won’t necessarily involve any characters from the first one.

[reply]AND WTF? Deckard is a replicant?

Yes.[/reply]

According to Ridley Scott, he was. I think that’s a ridiculous idea. The films writer agrees with me - he never intended Deckard to be a replicant.

thats a very weird movie. in a way that yeah it has some action, sure, but not that much. it has some drama, but also not much. it’s like a movie of the atmosphere, sort of ambient or something. but the atmosphere is great, the visuals for that time, holy shit. great flick.

[reply]Prometheus wasn’t unwatchable, but it was certainly sloppy and a missed opportunity. Also it stars Charlize Theron who fucking RUINS everything she stars in.

RUINS!

Man, i hate her too, i don’t know why, but ever since i saw her in that 2 Days in the valley film, which i think might have been her first, i’ve just hated her. That line in Prometheus where she’s talking to Weyland, and ends it with “…father”, terrible, i just burst out laughing at a) her delivery and b) it was a totally useless development. There was so much underdeveloped good stuff and other…just… shite "twists in Prometheus, as well as laugh out loud unintentional comedy, that it almost ruined the film.

And as for it being LV 223 and not LV246 - why?! So they can squeeze another film out of it. It set it up to seem like that might be the planet, but - aha - no, it’s not, and we need yet more nonsense to get to that point where another engineer ship crashes on a planet, spilling it’s alien load carelessly. I’ll watch the sequel to Prometheus, but will expect even less. I know Blade Runner’s sequel is planned but i doubt it’ll happen, thank fuck.[/reply]

Oh, god the “… father” part gave me an ulcer. I don’t understand the point in that little “twist” either. It changed nothing and didn’t give you a moment of, “Oh, so that’s why [whatever happened]!” or anything. It was just sloppily thrown in there for no good reason.

There’s so much that makes absolutely no sense in that movie. It’s fucking amazing visually and beautiful but the plot and rational for the character actions is mind-boggling. Like: Let’s be friendly and try to pet the fucking alien-snake-thing. You wouldn’t try to pet a snake you just found in the wild on earth so why the fuck would you do it on another planet!?! There’s so much more… so much more…

Shame because that movie had a lot of potential. I can still enjoy it for the visuals and if I pretend that everyone on the ship is mentally retarded and they’re being sent to a hostile alien planet because in the future the people of earth dispose of the handicapped that way.

Oh, god the “… father” part gave me an ulcer. I don’t understand the point in that little “twist” either. It changed nothing and didn’t give you a moment of, “Oh, so that’s why [whatever happened]!” or anything. It was just sloppily thrown in there for no good reason.

There’s so much that makes absolutely no sense in that movie. It’s fucking amazing visually and beautiful but the plot and rational for the character actions is mind-boggling. Like: Let’s be friendly and try to pet the fucking alien-snake-thing. You wouldn’t try to pet a snake you just found in the wild on earth so why the fuck would you do it on another planet!?! There’s so much more… so much more…

Shame because that movie had a lot of potential. I can still enjoy it for the visuals and if I pretend that everyone on the ship is mentally retarded and they’re being sent to a hostile alien planet because in the future the people of earth dispose of the handicapped that way.

Yeah, it really does look beautiful, one of the loveliest-looking films for a long time. The trailer totally sucked me in, i expected a new sci-fi classic, but then when the bad reviews came out like an avalanche of warm shit, i tempered my expectations hugely.

That “father” thing, it was ludicrous, like you say it added absolutely nothing at all, there was zero effect from that “shocker” except a lot of groaning from me and my friends i watched it with. The snake-petting moment… these guys are scientists, they should be aware of the dangers. I had heard that the deleted scenes explained that bit, but they explain nothing. I watched them, some of them were pretty cool and added little bits of interest, but overall they were pretty pointless.

There was no development of any of the characters, and the ones i liked, the captain, Idris Elba, and his crew, were barely in it. The characters behaved like idiots. The guy who had the holo-map and tracker thing, how the fuck did he get lost inside the monument? It’s just not well thought out at all.

There’s so many wasted opportunities in it. The ideas (well, speculation, really, after seeing the trailer) my friends and i had were actually better than what was in the film. The original script by Jon Spaihts sounds much much better than what ended up in the film. Damon Lindelof, why do they insist on hiring that useless turd? He ruins everything, he’s nothing but a hack. I wonder if they’ll get him in to piss all over this Blade Runner sequel script, if it ever comes to fruition?

There was something i read ages ago that mentioned the Engineers being interested in the humans, and trying to make them breed, but being ignorant of exactly how our species worked, there was forced male rape in the script. They forced males to try to reproduce! Crazy! You can’t have that in a Hollywood film though, so get Damon Lindelof in to tame it down for mass consumption.

I do think there were a lot of interesting thoughts and imagery in the film, most of which were not followed up on, but they should have stayed bold and done what they’d originally wanted, instead of putting out a compromised film like they did.

I believe The Revolting Cocks song Attack The Ships On Fire snagged the name from this movie.

They may also have been the first to do so. There’s been quite a few others. White Zombie had “More Human Than Human” and Covenant had “Replicant” and “Like Tears In Rain”.

Agree with the observations regarding Prometheus.

I was so stoked to see that film before it came out. My head was swimming with all the possibilities this film could offer up. A “prequel” of sorts to Alien. An enticing trailer. Ridley Scott. It all seemed to add up.

Then when I finally saw it - well…<shrugs shoulders>.

It was “ok” - but really, “ok” was just not good enough for a film with so much riding on it.

There was no real set up. No interesting back story. No character development. Characters did not act in the way they should have. They were childish, idiotic, mopey and dull. I never gave a shit or felt compelled to know any more about them or their “quest”. The father daughter thing with Charlize Theron was, as previously noted here, tacked on and lacked any real emotional resonance. You never care. Why should you? You’re not given enough to care about.

And what type of film is it? Action? Well…there’s some action. A space drama? Kind of. A horror? It kind of tries to be at times. Is it an “Alien” film? No but there is that element to it.

Nothing is really resolved. They just sort of land on the planet, browse through the alien pyramid or whatever it is, bicker a lot with each other, some of them get an infection and either turn into monsters or die, one of the them gives birth and then…that’s it. Oh and an alien pops out of one of The Engineers. Big fucken deal.

Gee, can hardly wait for the sequel.

Pffft.

Prometheus was like 6 hours long.
I tried to watch it on a plane to Dubai and it took me like 3 shifts because I kept falling asleep.
It was BOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGG.

And yeah, I agree about the characters. There’s no hero, no one that you really feel attached to or have any concern for. It was a long boring movie.

It doesn’t seem possible, since it was released in '82…but I’m almost certain that Blade Runner was in heavy rotation on the tour bus VHS in '83.

I must’ve watched it a dozen times or so, it seems.

I never thought very highly of Blade Runner and think even less of it now.

It’s like the very awful Highlander - a victim of fanboy hype.

Prometheus was like 6 hours long.
I tried to watch it on a plane to Dubai and it took me like 3 shifts because I kept falling asleep.
It was BOOOORRRRRIIINNNGGG.

And yeah, I agree about the characters. There’s no hero, no one that you really feel attached to or have any concern for. It was a long boring movie.

lol Prometheus’ story went nowhere. Nothing new was really added that we didnt know from the other Alien films. Aside from the big giant humanoids.

Towards the end was when it got good, the alien ship was taking off to its home world along with the scientist chick (I forgot her fucking name) and the android head, that’s what they shouldve shown, but no, that was the end. I felt robbed.

I never thought very highly of Blade Runner and think even less of it now.

It’s like the very awful Highlander - a victim of fanboy hype.

Ha, i love Highlander, one of my favourite films of all time. I’ve owned if on VHS, dvd and blu-ray, and will no doubt buy it again whenever another format comes along. I watched the dvd one night, and when it ended, it was just starting on tv, so i watched it again. Then the same channel showed it later that night, so i watched it for a 3rd time.

I refuse to acknowledge any Highlander stuff apart from the first film though. The rest is crap.

Whatever happened to Christopher Lambert? Talk about a guy who fell off the map…is he still alive?