Are there any bands whose music is similar to the sound Ministry developed on Dark Side of the Spoon? I’m not talking the singles from that album but like the core sound of the album (“Step”, “Eureka Pile”, “Nursing Home”, “10/10”) ?
I’ve been wondering this for a while now. The only albums I’ve listened to that come remotely close to the sound of DSOTS would be Godflesh’s “Us & Them” and Type O Negative’s “World Coming Down,” both released the same year as DSOTS. Crazy, that…
One album that I can think of right now is Kevin Martin’s GOD project. Im sure I can come up with something else later.
I’ve been wondering this for a while now. The only albums I’ve listened to that come remotely close to the sound of DSOTS would be Godflesh’s “Us & Them” and Type O Negative’s “World Coming Down,” both released the same year as DSOTS. Crazy, that…
1999 was not a bad year for albums. ‘The Fragile’ was '99 and AIC’s ‘Music Bank’ came out that year too. I’ve always seen ‘Us & Them’ as similar to Filth Pig in a way but it compliments both FP and DSOTS quite well.
I don’t know of any albums very similar to DSOTS, guess that’s why it’s unique.
I’ve been wondering this for a while now. The only albums I’ve listened to that come remotely close to the sound of DSOTS would be Godflesh’s “Us & Them” and Type O Negative’s “World Coming Down,” both released the same year as DSOTS. Crazy, that…
Haven’t heard ‘World Coming Down’. Not a huge Type O fan but I like some stuff. I own ‘Us & Them’ and I don’t think it sounds much like DSOTS beyond the obvious Industrial Metal similarities. For one it has no sense of humor…
I was thinking more along the lines of Butthole Surfers and maybe The Melvins because the tracks I mentioned have a psychedelic element to them and a sick drug-addled goofiness. More of a Noise Rock vibe than rigid Industrial Metal.
For example I think Butthole’s ‘Locust Abortion Technician’ is maybI e closest to ‘Dark Side of the Spoon’ in spirit (if not direct musicality) of anything I’ve heard offhand…
Keep the ideas coming!
Haven’t heard ‘World Coming Down’. Not a huge Type O fan but I like some stuff. I own ‘Us & Them’ and I don’t think it sounds much like DSOTS beyond the obvious Industrial Metal similarities. For one it has no sense of humor…
Though I don’t think Ministry and T.O.N. are comparable musically speaking, ‘World Coming Down’ has some similarities with DSOTS;
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Many songs have a humorous angle, eg. ‘Everyone I Love is Dead’, ‘Everything Dies’.
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‘Who Will Save the Sane’ is the closest thing T.O.N. have to a jazz song (like ‘Step’ is for Ministry),
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‘White Slavery’ is a good “sludge” rock song about cocaine addiction and is one of the best on the album.
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There are some atmospheric songs, like ‘Creepy Green Light’ and ‘All Hallows Eve’ that have a sort of similar position on the album that ‘Kaif’ and maybe ‘Whip and Chain’ have on DSOTS.
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I’m pretty sure that I read somewhere Pete Steele was going through a bad addiction when he made World Coming Down. So WCD could be T.O.N.'s “strung out” album like FP or DSOTS is for Ministry
However these similarities may be somewhat tenuous to some. One thing for certain there is no songs on WCD that resemble the visceral energy of ‘Supermanic Soul’ or ‘Step’. Many of them are very long (some too long) and their Beatles medley at the end is a waste of time. Still WCD is better than anything they have done since.
[reply]Haven’t heard ‘World Coming Down’. Not a huge Type O fan but I like some stuff. I own ‘Us & Them’ and I don’t think it sounds much like DSOTS beyond the obvious Industrial Metal similarities. For one it has no sense of humor…
Though I don’t think Ministry and T.O.N. are comparable musically speaking, ‘World Coming Down’ has some similarities with DSOTS;
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Many songs have a humorous angle, eg. ‘Everyone I Love is Dead’, ‘Everything Dies’.
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‘Who Will Save the Sane’ is the closest thing T.O.N. have to a jazz song (like ‘Step’ is for Ministry),
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‘White Slavery’ is a good “sludge” rock song about cocaine addiction and is one of the best on the album.
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There are some atmospheric songs, like ‘Creepy Green Light’ and ‘All Hallows Eve’ that have a sort of similar position on the album that ‘Kaif’ and maybe ‘Whip and Chain’ have on DSOTS.
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I’m pretty sure that I read somewhere Pete Steele was going through a bad addiction when he made World Coming Down. So WCD could be T.O.N.'s “strung out” album like FP or DSOTS is for Ministry
However these similarities may be somewhat tenuous to some. One thing for certain there is no songs on WCD that resemble the visceral energy of ‘Supermanic Soul’ or ‘Step’. Many of them are very long (some too long) and their Beatles medley at the end is a waste of time. Still WCD is better than anything they have done since.[/reply]
Ahh ok. Well I’ll have to check this album out then. I owned ‘Life is Killing Me’ (until it was lost/stolen) and one of the earlier ones I think ‘Bloody Kisses’
It depends on what you want from Type O but I think their crowning glory is ‘October Rust’. Their heavier moments appear on ‘Bloody Kisses’ and even earlier stuff and parts of their recent one ‘Dead Again’ (which I got absolutely sick of after about 1 month).
While WCD pisses all over ‘Life is Killing Me’, I remember people not liking it when it came out. I dunno. It still is decent in my opinion. Maybe check it out from a file sharing site first or something but don’t expect DSOTS version 2.
Thematically i think is what you mean in the similarities to DOS. Not literally…
if you’re a type o fan get any of their dvds and listen to the audio commentary… funny bunch of guys who totally do not take themselves seriously at all.
i wish pantera didn’t break up till after the big dvd craze then at least we’d have pantera 3 with audio commantary and id probably have pissed myself…
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Haven’t heard ‘World Coming Down’. Not a huge Type O fan but I like some stuff. I own ‘Us & Them’ and I don’t think it sounds much like DSOTS beyond the obvious Industrial Metal similarities. For one it has no sense of humor…
Though I don’t think Ministry and T.O.N. are comparable musically speaking, ‘World Coming Down’ has some similarities with DSOTS;
-
Many songs have a humorous angle, eg. ‘Everyone I Love is Dead’, ‘Everything Dies’.
-
‘Who Will Save the Sane’ is the closest thing T.O.N. have to a jazz song (like ‘Step’ is for Ministry),
-
‘White Slavery’ is a good “sludge” rock song about cocaine addiction and is one of the best on the album.
-
There are some atmospheric songs, like ‘Creepy Green Light’ and ‘All Hallows Eve’ that have a sort of similar position on the album that ‘Kaif’ and maybe ‘Whip and Chain’ have on DSOTS.
-
I’m pretty sure that I read somewhere Pete Steele was going through a bad addiction when he made World Coming Down. So WCD could be T.O.N.'s “strung out” album like FP or DSOTS is for Ministry
However these similarities may be somewhat tenuous to some. One thing for certain there is no songs on WCD that resemble the visceral energy of ‘Supermanic Soul’ or ‘Step’. Many of them are very long (some too long) and their Beatles medley at the end is a waste of time. Still WCD is better than anything they have done since.
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That’s pretty much exactly what I was going for. Thanks for elaborating.
- Many songs have a humorous angle, eg. ‘Everyone I Love is Dead’, ‘Everything Dies’.
I don’t think those songs are supposed to be funny…
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- Many songs have a humorous angle, eg. ‘Everyone I Love is Dead’, ‘Everything Dies’.
I don’t think those songs are supposed to be funny…[/reply]
They have to be. Have you seen the video for Everything Dies? That was pretty funny, Type O Negative funny not the “angry inch” humour they have flopped around with since.
I haven’t seen that video. But he wrote those songs because his friends and family were dieing around him. They’re autobiographical.
See, I think World Coming Down is closer to Filth Pig than to Dark Side of the Spoon. Both albums came following the biggest successes of the band’s careers, but a lot of personal problems in the lives of the band’s leaders. As a result, you get records with a lot of personal angst and a sound that alienates some of the older fans.
So while Steele certainly incorporates humor, often very dark humor, into his work and while those songs may have some funny elements, I don’t think they’re intended as comedy tracks.
I dont think such band exists mayn.