For what it’s worth… when i saw puppy on the shapes for arms in atlanta, I chatted with Ken HIWATT Marshall briefly. His name came up and Ken seemed to like him.
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That, my friends, is the entire summary of his “percussion greatness”. And he’s only responsible for 1/2 of it.
Yes, the intro to “Breathe” on ICYDFLSU was incredibly monumental. But that was one performance.
It happened over 25 years ago. It’s over.
Let’s try and get on with our lives.
Rieflin joined R.E.M., for crying out loud.
That should make him dead to us.
i was very happy for Bill Rieflin when he joined REM, it was like kismet: 2 great forces merging together fulfilling an existential prophecy[/reply]
For me it was an abomination…
Even with all the Atkins bashing(well-deserved)there was a time when Pigface shows were just a blast of fun…I had some really great times seeing some of those shows…
I agree. No point in backpedaling and making excuses for my involvement with them, it was fun being in the thick of all that chaos. And I did learn a lot about the music business, ironically, at a time when Martin didn’t claim to be a “music industry expert”.
Senor Dildo made a comment above about how bad Martin actually is about promotion despite claiming this expertise. Again I agree. There was a point where it looked like Invisible was really going to break out of the “industrial” niche, and start marketing itself towards more of an omnivorous music audience.
But even as they were doing cool things like licensing other record labels like Possible and Alleysweeper, and making connections to bands like Scorn and Neurosis who have more diversified fan bases, they kept over-promoting to all the “industrial” specialty outlets. At the time they were doing that, it seemed like most of those people just wanted to hear streamlined EBM like Haujobb or something.
Lastly I wonder if such instantly buried Invisible signings like Transmisia, Sugarsmack, Gawk and Horsey gained “$100K more a year” through their involvement with Martin.
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i was very happy for Bill Rieflin when he joined REM, it was like kismet: 2 great forces merging together fulfilling an existential prophecy
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When I was a kid I’d pick up music magazines and see that REM was always positioned at the top of something called the “college music” charts.
For the longest time, that made me dread and fear having to go to college when I got older. I was scared that everyone around me would be listening to REM constantly.
Did Atkins ever say why his label no longer exists? According to Discogs, the final Invisible release was Future Eyes by Snapline in 2010.
I am more of a Ginger Baker,Elvin Jones,Terry Bozzio kind of guy…
Terry Bozzio did sum cool stuff with Jeff Beck & of course Missing Persons was so unique: the perfect blend of glam rock & nuwave!
Thnx for reminding me…
Bozzio did a seminar at Guitar center on w14th street near Union Square a few years ago that was pretty rad!
He deserves a lot more recognition than he actually gets~
When I was a kid I’d pick up music magazines and see that REM was always positioned at the top of something called the “college music” charts.
For the longest time, that made me dread and fear having to go to college when I got older. I was scared that everyone around me would be listening to REM constantly.
HAHAHA!!! Yeah, I kind of remember the same.
It was really funny. I think the term “college rock” was often used sort of interchangeably with what was also referred to loosely as “alternative rock”.
Pavement, REM, Pixies, Nirvana, Gin Blossoms . . . what else? Pretty much make a list of every band I’ve ever NOT given a crap about and you had your list of “college music”.
These are the most played artists and albums that I recall from college parties, though . . .
Beastie Boys
Beck
Lenny Kravitz
Seriously, those three seemed to be on constant rotation at every damn college party.
HAHAHA!!! Yeah, I kind of remember the same.
It was really funny. I think the term “college rock” was often used sort of interchangeably with what was also referred to loosely as “alternative rock”.
Pavement, REM, Pixies, Nirvana, Gin Blossoms . . . what else? Pretty much make a list of every band I’ve ever NOT given a crap about and you had your list of “college music”.
These are the most played artists and albums that I recall from college parties, though . . .
Beastie Boys
Beck
Lenny Kravitz
Seriously, those three seemed to be on constant rotation at every damn college party.
Hahaha yeah, if I had to make my own chart based on music I actually heard being played by people at my alma mater, WuTang Clan, Beck, and Portishead would have crushed REM in listens per semester. To the point where I don’t think I will EVER need to hear “36 Chambers,” “Odelay” or “Dummy” again.
It seemed like, in music journalist lingo, “college” was a code word for “jangly guitar pop featuring lyrics about things other than partying or romance.” Hence REM strumming wistfully on 12-strings and writing songs about antique Shaker boxes or some crap that can be passed off as deeply meaningful and transcendent.
Oh, yeah! A few of my friends rocked the Wu-Tang disc, but I think Snoop and Dr. Dre got more spins where I was at least.
There were also a few that were HUGE in my neck because they were sort of local heroes of the area . . . specifically CAKE (they made it national eventually) and Mother Hips (I don’t think they ever broke big, but if you lived in the Sacramento area you’d think they were The Beatles). I hated both of those bands at the time, but have finally come to appreciate CAKE a bit.
Haha! I love Martin Atkins. His finest moment was when he established a “school” to teach kids about the music industry . . . He charged them $3K-$5K in tuition fees and then made them work for him packaging orders and cleaning his office. Brilliant.
That actually is what the music industry is now…so in a way it was the best education possible!
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That, my friends, is the entire summary of his “percussion greatness”. And he’s only responsible for 1/2 of it.
Yes, the intro to “Breathe” on ICYDFLSU was incredibly monumental. But that was one performance.
It happened over 25 years ago. It’s over.
Let’s try and get on with our lives.
Rieflin joined R.E.M., for crying out loud.
That should make him dead to us.
i was very happy for Bill Rieflin when he joined REM, it was like kismet: 2 great forces merging together fulfilling an existential prophecy[/reply]
For me it was an abomination…[/reply]
As much as I love Rieflin, I haven’t bothered to listen to REM or his input with them. I’ve seen the music video where he’s driving the car the band is in and sortof drumming…
I much prefer his Minstry/Revco/1000 homo dj’s style.