Anybody listen to 90's rap?

Black Elvis is a banger also

I think everyone had a rap phase at a young age. Some grow out of it. I couldn’t stomach it once I got out of high school, most of it is inarticulate jibberish and overtly belligerent bs for extroverts and wannabes HAHA!

I used to really like Public Enemy tho

I openly liked rap from about 4th grade to roughly the end of 6th grade when Welcome To the Jungle hit on Dial MTV with Adam Curry. My older cousin stayed with us for a month during his spring break from his tech school. He turned me on to GnR and Def Leppard and Aerosmith. And I remember Welcome to the Jungle and Hysteria used to battle it out for the #1 spot on DialMTV. I was all about the dude with the top hat and and the hair in his face and he was all about the Leppard. From that
point forward It was all rock all the time.

My sister and I weren’t allowed to watch MTV but Chris being older, watched MTV constantly and “Oh no mom and dad were not watching MTV were just hangin out with cousin Chris.”

It’s hard not to love Chuck D’s voice. (Although, Prophets Of Rage severely tests that trueism.) I liked Public Enemy and Rage Against The Machine made the cut. But I think me acknowledging those 2 bands in the midst of my rock genres only phase had more to do with the content of both bands’ lyrics and the fury/anger with which Zack Rapped, and as noted the beautiful sound Of chuck D’s voice

Hank Shocklee’s Bomb Squad is a towering force…as great as Chuck D and Flav were they are enhanced greatly by Shcoklee’s production technique…to my ears from that standpoint, its as powerful now as it was then…

“Forbidden” RULES!!!
(It’s one of the most hated Black Sabbath albums, though, so it’s not surprising to hear more people shit on it.)

And I wouldn’t say it was just “Iommi and a bunch of hired guns”. It had Tony Martin on vocals who also wrote all the lyrics. With the exception of “Dehumanizer”, Martin was on all the albums from the prior 10 years.

The “hired guns” tag should be saved for “Seventh Star”, hahahaha!!! What a shitshow.

Yeah Tony Martin was a mainstay for a while…Seventh Star has Glenn Hughes who was smoking crack the whole time the album was being made…

I still think of anything after Born Again(with the exception of Dehumanizer, 13 and the reunion album with Dio(under the Heaven and Hell moniker)as Tony Iommi solo albums…For me true Sabbath has to at least have Geezer along with Tony…

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“Cross Purposes” had Geezer and Tony, but it’s so forgettable you might as well stick with your list.

Yeah that’s right…so forgettable I forgot about it

I always forget that CROSS PURPOSES was even a real album, haha! It sounds like one long song written and recorded while they were ALL dead asleep. It has absolutely no passion or uniqueness. And the cover art… holy fuck. You could fart a better design. I always go straight to Seventh Star because it’s a laughable clusterfuck, but I think it is far more interesting than CROSS PURPOSES. That really may be the most embarrassing album. I just don’t understand how they could have created that whole album, listened to it, and signed their names to it.

Even Eternal Idol is better…

The bomb squad was mind-blowing at the time. When I hear their production I’m reminded of the raw chaos of skinny puppy, I’m sure they were using a lot of the same synths at the time.

Geezer has said that it was supposed to be a side-project that got the Sabbath name put on it (much like Seventh Star).

Which one? Cross Purposes or Forbidden?

Cross Purposes.
Geezer wasn’t on Forbidden.

Thanks. I knew Geezer was not on Forbidden but I thought perhaps he was just trying to throw shade on the project, haha!

Geezers solo albums are really good, by the way.
The bassist on Forbidden was Neil Murray, but i never remember what he’s from. I really liked the drummer, Cozy Powell. The live show for the Forbidden tour was really incredible… especially since they toured with MOTÖRHEAD!

Black Science was my favorite of the Geezer solo records…Plastic Planet was very good also
…could never get in to Ohmwork though…

I thought it was bizarre wheb Iommi somewhat recently re-mastered Forbidden…of all the things he could be doing it seemed like such an odd choice to resurrect that album from the dead…

There was talk about doing a Tony Martin era box, like with the Dio and Ozzy era ones, but I can’t imagine it would be a big seller.

Yeah I remember hearing about that T Martin box at one point…guess nothing became of it…

Neil Murray has been in a ton of bands and various projects…the epitome of a hired hand…probably best known for Whitesnake and Gary Moore band…

Remastered? I’m not an audiophile by any stretch, but that certainly doesn’t seem like something that needed such treatment. Seems like they just wanted to sell the same thing twice (which I feel is the ‘remastered’ schtick 99% of the time). Either people liked it (us 1%'er’s, haha) or they hated it (the other 99%). Boosting a bassline or reducing some treble here and there isn’t going to make it something new. I actually really like the “sound” of it, though. It was very full and heavy. Remastering? Yeah, that’s just giving nerds another reason to jerk off about an album no one really liked from the get go, haha.