Another dumb astronomy question

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So, years ago peligro linked the website futuretimeline . Net. It was a cool site. I still go to it from time to time. It basically just predicts what new kinda technology we’ll have in the future based on what kinda tech we have now.

Anyway, in the farther out predictions it says in a couple hundred years, using crispr, humans will be modified to withstand radiation And breathe multiple types of gas. This combined with better engines will have humans going to the gas giants and mining the gas out of the planets…

So, assuming this happens And assuming given enough time could pass What would happen to, say Jupiter, if we sucked all of the gas out of it? Would it still be considered a planet? Would it still have its gravity? If it doesnt have its gravity how drastic would the solar system change without Jupiter’s gravity?

Anyway, weird thought i had the other day. I tried googling it but nobody really answers the question. Thought id try here.

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Our galaxy is in a bit of a static hold in time, if you will. There is still crazy shit flying around everywhere, obviously, but it’s more or less (at least relative to our existence) stable. Jupiter is so fucking huge that there is just no possible way we could suck enough gas out to make any noticeable difference. Jupiter is 1300 times the size of Earth, and gas is generally pretty “light” so I don’t think there’s a a gravitational consequence with respect to our raping of the planet. If we completely vaporized a planet, then yeah, I could see a possibly cataclysmic chain of reactionary events that adjusted our solar system or galaxy’s balance accordingly.

What is “crispr”? I actually like topics like this. If you haven’t heard it yet, you should check out this discussion with Elon Musk and Joe Rogan about NEURALINK which would be an interface of our brains with A.I. . . . awesome and terrifying stuff, hahaha.

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I haven’t listened to the new interview. I heard the one from last year where he smoked weed for the first time. Rogans kinda been on hiatus for me since I’m no longer commuting.

I heard highlights from it though (at least I think I did) Where Musk thinks Neurallink will make language obsolete in 10 years . Although, I take issue with that because we all think in language, so, even if we’re not verbally speaking we’re still using language when we think.

With crispr we wouldn’t need neural link to fix a quadriplegic. crsipr would just redirect the cells to repair the damaged spinal cord.

We had a thread about it a few months back. it was called Its starting (and some more characters) it’s from March 4th… I would link it but for some reason when I do links from here it opens up my whole account so people can post as me.

Anyway, Crispr is the gene editing tool that has the potential to make our bodies designer. I.E. Stop our cells from aging (stay young), boost our immune system, increase our intelligence, grow body parts back… basically it’s the fountain of youth and other things when it comes to engineering our bodies. I heard about the potential of it on Rogan with David Sinclair, the first 20 minutes or so and The last like 30-40 minutes is where all good shit is…

I get that, I was just musing hypothetically… What does a gas planet look like without its gas? does it still hold its gravity? Does the gravity come from the core or the size of the planet. is it still locked in position in the solar system?

I would think so too but then where does the gravity come from? Just because you blow up a balloon super big doesn’t mean it’s starts having gravity, does it? and just because it’s super large doesn’t make it dense. Saturn, by contrast, is so light they say it could float in a bathtub if we could find one big enough.

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I think there’s a lot of possibilities but in the end the human race will focus more in itself. Virtual worlds, virtual realities will be the norm rather than exploring other planets.
Maybe, just maybe, this already happened and we already live in a simulation; a virtual world created somewhere in the distant past.
There’s this youtube video that I like because of instead of giving answers it raises questions and hypotheses. Fun stuff!

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Oh man I love the simulation theory… especially because the odds don’t favor us being base reality!! I’ll check out your video in a little bit. It looks cool.

I was glad I found Joe Rogan cause a while back he had Nick Bostrom on his show and Nick Bostrom is the one who presented simulation theory. Unfortunately he was kind of a dud guest, the writings on the idea are way better than he was as a guest. -hell the wiki page is better that his appearance on the show. Although now that I think about it it could’ve been a language barrier thing which was why he was so boring…

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Mass results in gravity. Different masses, different gravities.

Jupiter’s size has acted as a shield for Earth, with comets hitting it instead of Earth. Not to say a comet or asteroid cannot hit Earth at some point in the future.

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I know this. I was wondering what happens to the planet if all its gasses were sucked out. Does it still have mass or does it shrink down to just its core?

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If a small rocky core remains from Jupiter, Saturn, Neptune, Uranus, it could be classified as a dwarf planet.

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So, sucking all the gas out would alter the gravity that it has because its gravity comes from its mass and if you suck all the gas out it changes its mass? is that right?

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Yes, that is accurate, actually, because it still has mass whether its composition is liquid, gas, or solid. It’s purely theoretical, obviously, since you’re talking about sucking up something many times bigger than the Earth itself, but, you can consider the same scenario in other cases… hollowing out the moon, cutting off half of the Earth, etc…

I think we need to consider that, while we can, at best, with our present miniscule powers, fuck up a planet itself (i.e. climate change, pollution, etc.), we don’t presently have and couldn’t really conceive of ever creating something that could do something cataclysmic on a galactic, inter-planetary level. Stars, planets, galaxies, etc. . . . . they’re so fucking big and have been floating around in space for millions and billions of years. Our solar system and even our galaxy is basically a tiny fart cloud in a vast endless sea of space. It’s STABLE . . . . but stable in a very relative manner. That is, our conceivable existence (thousands, perhaps even a million years) doesn’t include a probability of something radical occurring that would effect the balance that everything is held in right now.

I think even if you could potentially steal a massive portion of Jupiter’s mass, you’re not making it disappear. You’re just relocating it. So Jupiter’s gravity could certainly be impacted, but I think the solar system itself is still such a tiny speck of nothing in a giant soup that it kind of adjusts to itself.

Sorry, that’s probably way too much verbiage.
I think a good summation in the realm of reality would also be to say that, even in a world where you created something to drain large amounts of gas from Jupiter, it would never be at a level to be consequential . . . and to get to such a level, you’d be talking about an inconceivable timeline.

Talking about this stuff, I just had a funny flashback to my childhood, actually. I used to be really obsessed with digging to the center of the Earth (yes, there was a book and movie many years ago, hahaha) and started many times. Without the giant drill we never got too far. Best we ever did was probably 4 or 5 feet.

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Yeah, this has always been “in theory.”

I think every kid has this idea. Well had it before the internet took over. LOL

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I always thought it was so funny in the old cartoons when they’d “dig all the way to China”. They’d dig through the Earth and then pop up on the other side and there’d be some really horiffically racist characters with the rice paddy hats, slanty eyes, and buck teeth. My father used to correct me all the time because when I’d say we were going to dig all the way to China he’d tell us that we’d actually end up near Australia, not China, and I think he even gave me a globe so I could see where we’d end up, haha.

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There is a theory that Mars lost the majority of its atmosphere from asteroid impacts that disrupted its magnetic field and internal convection, allowing the solar wind and radiation to strip its atmospheric gases off into the vacuum of space.

We launched the MAVEN spacecraft to study it.

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Space and future space travel are very intriguing. Have you all heard of Gary Mckinnon the Brit who hacked NASA back in the 00s. He found that NASA was doctoring photos and videos containing UFOs.

When we start venturing out there were gonna find some ego shattering shit man. Also we would already be colonizing space if it weren’t for the dark ages, a period of over 800 years where science was heresy. Imagine where we’d be if we hadn’t let our ignorance hold us back

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I wanna believe this kinda stuff but it all just reads like “woo.” As Carl Sagan said, “extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof” and sadly, as much as I wanna believe I haven’t really been shown any extraordinary proof.

For, sure!!!

Totally. Stupid church!! (And sadly it looks like we’re headed back there :frowning:)

But, I like to play with Bob Lazar’s claims that we already have these types of Space crafts (I know he hasn’t shown any proof either but I wanna believe him)… and if that is true we may have already been to every planet in the solar system…

There was some nut, probably 10 years ago now, saying he was part of some super duper top secret space force and that the us has already been exploring the universe by making use of a worm hole just past Jupiter. but If Lazar is telling the truth about these alien engine’s I guess it could be true… weird how some things we believe with no proof and others we dismiss. who knows what’s true and what’s lies. We may never know.

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The truth will eventually come out whether its by guys like Lazar or slow disclosure. I actually think it’s people like Lazar, Tom Delonge that put pressure on the Gov’t to slowly release this shit, the cats out of the bag might as well start revealing the truth piece by piece. They typically do it when no ones looking, like the UFO pentagon stuff released during the pandemic

As for the crispr predictions thats pretty far out. I don’t know why anyone would willingly alter themselves to perform in these hazardous environments I figure we’d just use androids or develop shielding of some sort.
The first humans who start altering themselves to have unnaturally lengthy lifespans are gonna suffer from some pretty crazy psychological effects. Have you seen Altered Carbon? The rich and powerful basically live for thousands of years by transferring their consciousness to new bodies and with each generation they grow more and more depraved, they get bored and do crazy shit lol. I figure that’s where we’re heading with things like crispr, there will have to be laws in place to keep people from living too long and losing their minds

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Well, I remember seeing on legit press (AP i think) that Delonge had seen footage of crazy alien ships that government had knowledge of and it turned out about a year or so later to be the david fravor tape. So, yeah I think it’s shit like that that give lazar and delonge credibility. I’ve posted in another thread here that I think the crafts on the fravor tapes are being flown by humans… because it’s flying like the way people do with a new car. you know, playing with all the features…

As far as crispr… I don’t know. it could be some scary shit. I automatically think slavery. they extend your life by 300 or 3000 years. that’s a lot of life to live if youre stuck in some shit job or have been given a “life sentence” in jail. I’m not sure if the brain goes crazy if it lives too long. no real way to tell until we get there. I would think crispr would keep those problem at bay though. I’ve never heard of that movie it sounds cool though. I may look it up.

Crispr is gonna take off though, at some point, maybe not in our life time but it will.
I don’t see it really as monkeying with the genome, I would think they would have it perfected, so whatever they do to you, if you want it undone they could do that. you want bigger tits? great here’s what the genome looks like for that. don’t want those big tits any more? great, we’ll revert you back to your old genome. want to look 25 forever? need a fast metabolism? we got it all right here…going scuba diving on vacation? take this shot and grow a set of gills like an amphibian. done scuba diving? great revert back to your previous genome the gills go away. obviously it would takes weeks or months to grow or remove whatever you got, but I think that is the future of medicine and humanity. I’d like to think it won’t be corrupted at least no more than modern medicine is. That’s really what it is is the ultimate medicine. got high chlestorol, take this shot it changes your genome so your body is better able to remove it. no different than statins, this would just be 100% effective. I guess we’ll wait and see.