Anaheim set list (Revised)

This really poses the question are you attending the concert to see the band give an demostration of what they do or are you there to relive your childhood?
I mean why stop at having them play land of rape and honey? why dont you also make uncle al jog on a treadmill until he has the exact ribcage/diaphragm that he did when the album was released? i mean if it is a some sort of completist thing, ministry has a manager at some level hopefully not Angie at this point and I am sure if you want to commission a private show with specific songs you can negiotate sometihng. I know several bands/ supposedly broken up bands do private shows for right amount of fruit loops. just send an email.

Let’s pool our money and see if we can raise enough for him to do a With Sympathy set with Stevo, Brad, and Robert Roberts

Let’s pool our money and see if we can raise enough for him to do a With Sympathy set with Stevo, Brad, and Robert Roberts

I’d pay to see that. Stevo is the greatest drummer to ever play in Ministry. I’d love to hear some real keyboard playing too. Sample triggering isn’t the same thing.

This really poses the question are you attending the concert to see the band give an demostration of what they do or are you there to relive your childhood?
I mean why stop at having them play land of rape and honey? why dont you also make uncle al jog on a treadmill until he has the exact ribcage/diaphragm that he did when the album was released? i mean if it is a some sort of completist thing, ministry has a manager at some level hopefully not Angie at this point and I am sure if you want to commission a private show with specific songs you can negiotate sometihng. I know several bands/ supposedly broken up bands do private shows for right amount of fruit loops. just send an email.

Who wants to relive their childhood? Maybe people just wanna hear songs that they like from this band. The songs that made this band great. You spend an awful lot of time defending Al.

im not defending that dude, im questioning the need to give a shit about a set list.
You damn well know they arent going to play your dream setlist, mainly because they dont know it.

im not defending that dude, im questioning the need to give a shit about a set list.
You damn well know they arent going to play your dream setlist, mainly because they dont know it.

I don’t think anybody is complaining about Al not playing a dream set list. People are complaining about the lack of variety in the set list. Al has complained in the past that he’s not a Jukebox and yet year after year he rolls out the same set list with the exact same encores in the exact same order.

This really poses the question are you attending the concert to see the band give an demostration of what they do or are you there to relive your childhood?

Neither, actually.
I go to get fucking wasted, rock the fuck out, tell jokes, eat at Denny’s, and then have Grumpy drive my drunk ass home. I’m under no illusion that Al’s gonna play what I WANT to hear and I enjoy the predictable Ministry-by-numbers. I’d LOVE for him to break out of his self-imposed box that he loves to complain about and actually surprise ALL of us with some unexpected numbers, but I ain’t gonna cry my eyes out when it, of course, never happens.

I dont know. I go to slayer shows and every year the band becomes more and more Jerry Garcia & Stepenwolf friends traveling side band. but they do war ensemble and angel of death. so i cant complain too much. Yes they will throw in the new songs here and there, but no ones complaining…at an audible level. they cant. slayer is too damn loud.

HAHAHAHA!!! Complaining about a Slayer show is pretty rich. I just roll my eyes. Uhhhh, did you get stabbed? Are you still alive? Did you even actually go to the show? I’ve only seen 'em a few times, but it’s always been a fucking warzone.

HAHAHAHA!!! Complaining about a Slayer show is pretty rich. I just roll my eyes. Uhhhh, did you get stabbed? Are you still alive? Did you even actually go to the show? I’ve only seen 'em a few times, but it’s always been a fucking warzone.

Wanna hear about a fucking warzone? Try Body Count and Biohazard at L’Amour’s in the early 90s. Some dude was tossing a fucking hatchet around. Takes the cake, at least for me.

That’s awesome…

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!! A fucking hatchet??? Yeah, that’s a bit much. Not gonna lie, I’d definitely be snuffing that shit out. "Okay, Kids, I ain’t here to harsh your buzz or nothing, but I’m gonna have to take away your medieval weapons while we’re getting rowdy in this here pit. I mean, hey, we can still have fun, but . . . "

A fucking hatchet??? "Okay, Kids, I ain’t here to harsh your buzz or nothing, but I’m gonna have to take away your medieval weapons while we’re getting rowdy in this here pit. I mean, hey, we can still have fun, but . . . "

Who invited the square to the pit?

Well,in the guys defense,the name of the band is Body Count…

When I was in college there was a guy who went to every show with an elaborately customized motorcycle helmet, which he wore into every mosh pit.
He got called out onstage for his foolishness by (of all people) one of the guys from They Might Be Giants.

If you get your ass handed to you publicly by THEY MIGHT BE GIANTS it’s time to reconsider your life’s path.

There is that footage of Anton from Brianjonestown Massacre who stopped a show and bypassed any talking to kick a fan right in the head…he was subsequently arrested and whined like a bitch all the way to the police station…

Back to the subject of the current Ministry tour, went to the Atlanta show last night.

  • Missed most of the Godbombs set because they started super early, but met Justin in real life for the first time later. He’s an extremely nice fellow, and the ladies LOVE him.
  • Chelsea Wolfe was good, but kind of dull to be opening for Ministry. I want to see her in a theater with films of Carpathian forests and crumbling Alpine castles playing in the background.
  • Ministry was on point. I didn’t even mind that the setlist was frontloaded with newer material. Al even seemed into doing the old stuff, unlike that tour where he had Burton come out and sing for him. Hearing Bad Blood was a trip.

Al even seemed into doing the old stuff, unlike that tour where he had Burton come out and sing for him.

HAHAHA!!! I was so pissed about that bullshit at first. It was the CU-LA-Tour (2008). Al was just complaining non-stop and giving the “I’m just a jukebox and the fans make me play this” line and all that garbage. When I saw that he wouldn’t even sing the old songs that he was complaining about I thought it was such a joke and it made me also hate Burton (because I’m an irrational dick and can always add more people to my hate list).

But Burton was AWESOME!!! He gave it 200% while Al slouched off on the side pretending to play a guitar. Burton was incredibly fun to watch and had such an intensity that it made me even consider seeing Fear Factory some day (a band that at least on CD does NOTHING for me and sounds like every other generic industrial-metal bullshit of the later 90’s).

I saw Burton after the gig and talked to him for a while. I told him straight up, “I was pretty pissed when I heard YOU were going to be singing the classics and was geared up to heckle your ass, but you were actually really terrific and a highlight of the show.” He was so appreciative and humble and told me how much of an honor and thrill it was to get to perform with the same band that we all grew up worshiping. He said also how he too wished Al would do more old songs and that he would actually sing them himself, hahaha.

Anyway, I still don’t own any albums of his or anything, but I’m a HUGE fan of Burton C. Bell, the dude, regardless.

Ever hear the Geezer Butler solo album Burton sang on? Its really good…