I just found a copy of this at Amoeba Music in Hollywood I Picked it up based on its mention here on the board. It was definately Bizzare! I don’t know about “for Adults” I was expecting it to be Horrific with disturbing imagery. It was definately cool but the only reason “not for children” is because they wouldn’t understand it not cause of nightmares or the such! any way it put a 30 dollar dent in my wallet not saying it wasn’t worth it but … would’ve been more satisfied if I had payed less(The short film Darkness Light Darkness, that came with it Was BAD ASS!!!). I also picked up “THIS DIVIDED STATE” about how the mormons had a fit when Michael Moore tried to speak at Utah state collage, Excellent FILM! pick it up if you have a chance. One more Documentary about the hypocrisy of the right wing!
Late,
grmpysmrf
That movie is so fucking cool. Alice, I mean.
Is “Darkness Light Darkness” the one where the guy rolls into a room one body part at a time and then builds himself? I really dug that one, but I don’t remember the title.
Is “Darkness Light Darkness” the one where the guy rolls into a room one body part at a time and then builds himself? I really dug that one, but I don’t remember the title.
That Is Indeed the film!
Late,
grmpysmrf
Alice is a cool movie. Right up there with Eraserhead. Very tough movie to explain to others, but oddly entertaining.
[reply]…Right up there with Eraserhead…reply]
I read this movie is really morose! Not the movie to view if you’re even remotely depressed, supposedly it could push you over the edge. So I’m kinda scared of it. I know I’m a visually depressed person; meaning when I get depressed I see shit it my minds eye that just makes the depression worse. SO I don’t think I need anymore stimulus for that! although I’m curiouse to see it. Just don’t want to risk my mental health! (Watching Salo didn’t help this condition either!)
Late,
grmpysmrf
Eraserhead just recently got knocked down to a very, VERY affordable price, not to mention very easily to purchase in the States, at $19.99 on DeepDiscountDVD.com …
Sure is a far cry from the $45 I pluncked down for it, mind you this was two and a half years ago…
Very well worth the money. It is an amazing visual experience.
is it as I have described above? Very depresssing??
Late,
grmpysmrf
"One more Documentary about the hypocrisy of the right wing! "
word. what about the documentary about fat leftists profiting off the hypocrisy of the right wing.
cool, I’ll need to check this stuff out (once the depression leaves of course [:P])
"One more Documentary about the hypocrisy of the right wing! "
word. what about the documentary about fat leftists profiting off the hypocrisy of the right wing.
There was some dude making a movie called Michael Moore Hates America awhile back. I dunno if he ever finished or released it though.
is it as I have described above? Very depresssing??
Late,
grmpysmrf
It’s hard to say. You might find most of it actually quite uplifting. I did, at a certain point in my life. It’s well worth the money… seriously.
[reply]"One more Documentary about the hypocrisy of the right wing! "
word. what about the documentary about fat leftists profiting off the hypocrisy of the right wing.
There was some dude making a movie called Michael Moore Hates America awhile back. I dunno if he ever finished or released it though.[/reply]
Michael moore refused to appear in it, so as far as I know, it’s not gotten off the ground. Kinda wonder why Michael moore won’t be seen in a movie that slanders his name in the title.
Late,
grmpysmrf
"One more Documentary about the hypocrisy of the right wing! "
word. what about the documentary about fat leftists profiting off the hypocrisy of the right wing.
well if our “liberal media” would do it’s job or live up it’s reputation that radical right has bestowed upon it, Micahel moore would be out of bussiness wouldn’t he? Might also be skinny cause he wouldn’t afford to eat. I guess he could just pop OXY COTTTON to try and get skinny while denouncing drug users. Character assassination is an ugly bussiness. why can’t the right ever mention Moore with out mentioning he’s fat? Oh yeah that’s cause they can’t attack his messages. You know, just cause you’re to left of FOX EDITORIAL’S Unfair and Biased news coverage, does not make you left. You can still be no where near the the center or even close to the actual left.
I guess that The Documentary you want doesn’t exist cause there will always be crooks and the tattle tails that expose them (Since it seems we’re over simplifying things here).
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply] You know, just cause you’re to left of FOX EDITORIAL’S Unfair and Biased news coverage, does not make you left. You can still be no where near the the center or even close to the actual left.
I guess that The Documentary you want doesn’t exist cause there will always be crooks and the tattle tails that expose them (Since it seems we’re over simplifying things here).
Late,
grmpysmrf
hahahaha please give me a list of all TRVE KVLT LEFT PEOPLE that base their politics around a news program… what a foolish premise for basing political thought! read some fucking books!
who cares what the media thinks their views are patented bullshit, anyone can attack michael moore’s mickey mouse chomsky for elementary school children ideas. and anyone can attack bush’s mickey mouse freedom for iraqis ideas. and where is the actual left? fidel castro? kim jung-il? al j?
hey aren’t you the same guy that said all left people aren’t greedy??
[reply]
…anyone can attack michael moore’s mickey mouse chomsky for elementary school children ideas…[reply]
Except for you. cause I haven’t heard anything from you except syaing that you can attack him. PLease point out some flaws in his ideas. Point to his specific lies. CAN YOU. or will it be more ad hominim attacks?? “Michael moores fat and he smells bad too!” that’s the limit of your attacks! PLEASE POINT TO SOME SPECIFICS!
Late,
grmpysmrf
hahaha i don’t think so grmpysmrf, i could never top your ad hominin attacks anyway!!!
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1946#1946
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
ever hear of rawls, e.h. carr, friedman, hayek, or sam huntington? these guys don’t rely on one-liners and mass market movies to get their well researched and widely accepted points across. maybe that’s why, you spend too much time watching TV and made for hollywood pseudo-documentaries. try quoting some of their stuff the next time you feel like being a smart guy.
read some fucking books!
hahaha i don’t think so grmpysmrf, i could never top your ad hominin attacks anyway!!!
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1946#1946
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
ever hear of rawls, e.h. carr, friedman, hayek, or sam huntington? these guys don’t rely on one-liners and mass market movies to get their well researched and widely accepted points across. maybe that’s why, you spend too much time watching TV and made for hollywood pseudo-documentaries. try quoting some of their stuff the next time you feel like being a smart guy.
read some fucking books!
What does of any of your, “changing the premise” response have to do with pointing out specifics of mike moores faulty logic?? As I stated before I KNEW YOU COULDN’T POINT TO SPECIFICS. any more fallacies? so far you’ve got non sequitor, changing the premise and ad hominem covered! And I’ve never attacked you personally or anyone else so I don’t know how you get that I’m guilty of ad hominem. I attack peoples behaviors and ideas. NEVER THEM
Late,
grmpysmrf
[reply]hahaha i don’t think so grmpysmrf, i could never top your ad hominin attacks anyway!!!
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1946#1946
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
ever hear of rawls, e.h. carr, friedman, hayek, or sam huntington? these guys don’t rely on one-liners and mass market movies to get their well researched and widely accepted points across. maybe that’s why, you spend too much time watching TV and made for hollywood pseudo-documentaries. try quoting some of their stuff the next time you feel like being a smart guy.
read some fucking books!
What does of any of your, “changing the premise” response have to do with pointing out specifics of mike moores faulty logic?? As I stated before I KNEW YOU COULDN’T POINT TO SPECIFICS.[/reply]
[laugh] [laugh] i sure wasn’t expecting that AD HOMINIM RETORT!!! please answer my questions in my 2nd reply by the way. i still haven’t found where the TRVE LEFT is hiding. i think most of them are buried in siberia with bullets in their necks. well don’t even bother, i’ll only get another question answered with another question.
grmpy there may be hope for you yet! michael moore has done well, he has you in his palm the same way 666 FOX NEWS 666 has some RIGHT WING PEOPLE in their palm as well. i don’t need to explain every point of his tired stereotypes and connect the dots politics, just to have you reply with some AD HOMININ retorts about the RIGHT and LEFT. why? because it doesn’t matter, he tells you what to believe and i’d rather stick to formulating my ideas from these political works that define the language but it is up to the reader to apply this to their current situation. then they can be discussed on a serious level devoid of mr. moore’s conspiracy theories and spliced footage.
but it’s quite funny how terrified you are of the RIGHT PEOPLE, i should come to your house in a nixon mask and demand all your money and copies of fahrenheit 9/11!!
again:
read some fucking books!
i have no paitence for you walden books political scientists on both sides of the politcal spectrum ranting like lunatics about THEE EVIL OCCULT FOX NETWORK and THE EVIL KENNEDYS and other such worthless forays into high school history lessons.
[reply][reply]hahaha i don’t think so grmpysmrf, i could never top your ad hominin attacks anyway!!! !
http://www.prongs.org/minfiles/forum/gforum.cgi?post=1946#1946
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
ever hear of rawls, e.h. carr, friedman, hayek, or sam huntington? these guys don’t rely on one-liners and mass market movies to get their well researched and widely accepted points across. maybe that’s why, you spend too much time watching TV and made for hollywood pseudo-documentaries. try quoting some of their stuff the next time you feel like being a smart guy.
read some fucking books![/reply]
What does of any of your, “changing the premise” response have to do with pointing out specifics of mike moores faulty logic?? As I stated before I KNEW YOU COULDN’T POINT TO SPECIFICS.
[laugh] [laugh] i sure wasn’t expecting that AD HOMINIM RETORT!!![/reply]
You don’t know what an ad hominem is if you thought my “retort” was ad hominem. I challanged you to point to some specifics. I knew you couldn’t do it. There’s no fallacy there, especially not an ad-hominem. Now, If I was to call you a fucking retard at this point then YES then that and that only would be an ad hominem. spot the difference.
please answer my questions in my 2nd reply by the way.
I answered your question. You need to take your own advice and read.
i still haven’t found where the TRVE LEFT is hiding. i think most of them are buried in siberia with bullets in their necks.
Ok? So… what’s your point? that it’s ok to be on the move towards fascism. Not really a left Idea, Fascism isn’t what the left is about.
well don’t even bother, i’ll only get another question answered with another question.
are you talking to me or yourself? This is all you have done to my questions.
grmpy there may be hope for you yet! michael moore has done well, he has you in his palm the same way 666 FOX NEWS 666 has some RIGHT WING PEOPLE in their palm as well.
I never came out for or against Mike Moore.WHY DON’T you go read again. I merely said they attack his person rather than his ideas. I don’t see Mike Moore do that!
i don’t need to explain every point of his tired stereotypes and connect the dots politics,
Because you can’t. You can just stop your tantrum there.
just to have you reply with some AD HOMININ retorts about the RIGHT and LEFT.
Do you even know what you are talking about? I haven’t bent to that fallacy yet.
why? because it doesn’t matter, he tells you what to believe
For instance??? Again, For example?? Maybe I am what you are accusing me of, show me the error of my ways, teach me, enlighten me! But you can’t, you just yell retard (so to speak) and run away with no proof. IS this your WMD experience? Yell it enough times and it becomes truth?
and i’d rather stick to formulating my ideas from these political works that define the language but it is up to the reader to apply this to their current situation.
What politcal works? the authors you suggest?
then they can be discussed on a serious level devoid of mr. moore’s conspiracy theories and spliced footage.
really? what conspiracy theories? What footage has been spliced? For instance?? For example??
but it’s quite funny how terrified you are of the RIGHT PEOPLE, i should come to your house in a nixon mask and demand all your money and copies of fahrenheit 9/11!!,
What does this last statement have to do with anything? Who ever said I was “terrified” of the right?
again:
read some fucking books!
1st: This started out with out with no mention of books you altered the premise (congratulations) 2nd: Who says I don’t read books? You? Faulty premise! Spectacular, you managed 2 fallacies with 1 statement.
i have no paitence for you walden books political scientists on both sides of the politcal spectrum ranting like lunatics about THEE EVIL OCCULT FOX NETWORK and THE EVIL KENNEDYS and other such worthless forays into high school history lessons.
Another ad Hominim! Look it up before you accuse me of it again!
I have no patience for the JUNKIES who pretend to be intellectuals pointing their nose skyward towards those they have made half ass assumptions about.
GOOD DAY SIR