[reply]So, the overall mesage of your post is you think your safe enough so fuck everyone else? Nice. How very humanitarian of you. Nice big middle finger to anybody else. If you think your education is "passable " think again and brush up on (or learn for the first time perhaps) history and see just how bad “just rhetoric” fear mongering and propaganda can be.
I’m very bummed that you chose to interpret my statement in the way you did. From a certain perspective, I can see how my viewpoint comes off as arrogant and selfish, but that’s really not what I’m all about (or so I’ve led myself to believe).[/reply][/reply]
First off I’m not sure how anyone could interpret your statement any other way, but secondly, and more importantly, I’ve never seen you as that either which is why it surprised me to see you so nonchalant about this. It may not touch us specifically (although I think it will- and sooner than most realize) but we all know people that this is going to hurt and to turn a blind eye to that and say “it’s all cool cause I’m cool” is fucked up. Despite what DJ pon3 thinks, the world doesn’t stop at the end of our noses.
I’m really not sure how this turned into an argument. There is literally nothing to argue, unless you are trying to argue that I should not be strong, that I should not have self worth, that I should not lead by example, and that above all, I should be afraid.
I don’t think it’s an argument. It’s a disagreement. I don’t hate or dislike you. I think your thought process is misguided. There’s nothing wrong with being strong. There’s nothing wrong with having self worth and certainly nothing wrong with leading by example. You should have these qualities even when there is nothing to fear, but there are most definitely times you need to be afraid. Our fear instinct has kept us alive as a species. Some threats are real. My measure of self worth is based on how I treat those who are disadvantaged not the amenities that I can afford.
I know this is probably twisting your words, but what I’m getting is “How DARE you.” I’m having a very hard time convincing myself that this is what you are saying to me, but it’s making a very compelling case for itself.
Perhaps in the extreme that’s right. However, I’d like to think it’s more along the lines of “Are you fucking serious?” or “Have you really thought this through?” but yeah if you’re really as selfish as your post comes off (which I sincerely hope is not the case) then i suppose “how dare you” works as well.
I’m genuinely weirded out by this. Not so much that we are literally “fighting” over nothing, but over the fact that I tried to do something that I felt was positive and you interpreted it, somehow, as an evil and amoral thing.
We are not “fighting” over nothing. This is most definitely something. but more troublesome you did think you were doing something positive, you really thought focusing on yourself rather than world around you was positive. Which has really become a republican staple “I’m ok so fuck off!” I’m really happy for you that you feel YOUR needs are fine but your statement, while positive toward yourself, really is a big fuck you to all of those that will be crushed by the weight f the Trump administration.
Something’s definitely wrong with either my moral compass or my language skills, and honestly, I’d wager it’s both.
Judging by the persona you’ve crafted here over the years I’d have to go with language skills, because you’ve never struck me as a “I’m ok, fuck you” type of guy. You know, you even shared family troubles with the board and were quite compassionate when others shared life misfortunes. but by the same token you’ve always been pretty articulate with your words. So, I’m not really sure what’s going on here.
I don’t understand the implications of the 2016 election, and truth be told, I might not have too tenuous of a grasp on reality, either. I do know what I do understand, though: I really like cool music.
Look man, I don’t hate or even dislike you. I miss you when you’re not here, especially when the first time you took a big absence was when you were talking about financial and medical problems in your family. I’m troubled over some words on a screen that have come to represent one of my friends. So, when you’re not around to write a happy ending it bothers me.
I’m no real fan of Dj Pon3 (except when he’s cracking one liners) but he’s here and he’s a person entitled to his own opinions (no matter how fucked up and misguided) so when he quietly PMs me to tell me about horrific events that has befallen his family or chooses to share other events on the board that has effected him and his family It affects me and I care. I don’t automatically cheer for his misfortune because we don’t have similar opinions, and so that brings us to here. I read your comments as completely callous and selfish. For a guy who has had his share of misery it seems odd and out of character that you could completely disregard the now extremely lopsided landscape that has become the United States of America. People are going to start losing their livelihoods. They will lose their healthcare that they otherwise would not qualify for. Gay marriage will be reversed (the Vp elect pence is all on board for electro shock conversion therapy) Roe Vs Wade will undoubtedly be over turned, he will undoubtedly have the new supreme court bust unions, He plans to deregulate wall st. so more boom and bust culture. He wants to gut the EPA in the first hundred days. he wants to build some ridiculously expensive wall that people are just going to tunnel under anyway. He wants to deport a fuck ton of people who may or may not be legal. So for you to type such a flippant remark over the implications of this, yeah, I had some comments.