That FB bring back the old Ministry.
OK, so there’s only 16 members in this FB group right now…but I’m sure it will gain momentum.
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I probably should have tossed in a couple of [laugh] and [:P] smilies but…
There’s a facebook group now, called “1000 Facebook users demand that Facebook bring back the OLD Ministry”. It’s just for grins. It was started by David Floodstrand who was in 8-1/2. The description reads…
“Let’s work together to demand that Facebook bring back the OLD Ministry, before AL Jourgensen got got all mean, and naughty. Let’s show the world that “She’s got…she’s got…a cause!” Yes, let’s get Al and his evil band of naughty devil worshipers to throw down their guitars, and pick up thier synthesizers!”
I was only joking because there’s no way that 1000 FB users will enlist. Right now there’s 26 up from 16 yesterday. And let’s face it…10000 users could sign up and it still wouldn’t mean anything.
Let’s just go off into fantasy land a moment and suppose that VH1 was interested in putting the OLD OLD Ministry back together for one show, do you think that the members, other than Al, would do it? If not, why not? Because they have better things to do or too much tension between the members? Do you know what the others are up to? Sorry if you have answered this question before. We need a “wempthy FAQ” on here.
The OLD OLD Ministry? There’s only Stevo & I and we get on great to this day. I’d love to hang out with him for about a week and play for VH1 or any other reason. I’m not aware of any personality conflicts between any of the old members.
As much as an old lineup reunion would rule I’m sure Al would try to scuttle any plans to use the brand name Ministry in connection to WS era stuff. Although the way the band had been masquerading as the real deal the last 5 years it should have been called Mimestry.
I’ll just have to settle for that pic of Stevo, Brad, Mark, and you from your get together from awhile back.
… masquerading as the real deal the last 5 years it should have been called Mimestry.
I think you’re on to something. Three tribute bands, each playing material from early, middle and late versions of Ministry called Alchemistry, Psalmistry & Mimestry respectively. I’d pay to see that. [;)]
I’d settle for one concert with the George/Roberts/Pother/Hallen lineup with a midget singing that was discussed a while back.
I’d settle for one concert with the George/Roberts/Pother/Hallen lineup with a midget singing that was discussed a while back.
This is hilarious, but really if there was an all midget KISS tribute band, then surely this is not at all far-fetched.
Plus I like wempathy’s idea. 3 bands. One mission. It’ll have to be a package with a clever ‘tour’ name.
Damn, I mean it’d be worth a shot…in some weird way, that VH1 “Bands Reunited” show has had a fair amount of success in burying the hatchet on some nasty old feuds. In particular, I am thinking of how they failed to actually get Information Society together again to perform for VH1. BUT then Kurt Harland went ahead and gave Paul Robb & Jim Cassity the rights to us the InSoc name. So they dug up some new singer and released a decent comeback album with the new guy on vox. Then for some odd reason, Kurt decided to stop doing video game audio long enough to sing on one track on that album. He then ended up joining the band semi-permanently for live performances and a new compilation album last year. So maybe there’s still some sliver of hope for Al to reconcider a reunion performance if the $'s right (yeah right).
In any case, Al’s voice is probably so shot he couldn’t perform most of the old material even if he WANTED to. I’d be content to just see any of the “classic” Ministry lineup play some instrumental versions of the early material.
It’ll have to be a package with a clever ‘tour’ name.
The Bioreact Tour
So maybe there’s still some sliver of hope for Al to reconcider a reunion performance if the $'s right (yeah right).
I think $$$ is the only way Al would do it but that’s only if Al is in the financial straights that we all believe him to be in, based on that money pit that seems to be 13th planet.
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I think Al would do it to if the $ was right, but it would most likely be done in a thrash metal format with some Bush samples thrown in. Oh wait
WORK! GRRR! for love (chugga chugga guitar)
You’d be surprised. The early Ministry stuff is regarded as trendy by a lot of annoying skinny girls who are supposedly attractive and “hip” and into obscure 80s bullshit and do other people’s cocaine while smoking long cigarettes and thinking that taking photography classes at NYU makes them a fucking “artist”.
Personally I’ll take the ‘Dark Side of the Spoon’ or ‘Animositisomina’ lineup over that pussy shit any day.
You’d be surprised. The early Ministry stuff is regarded as trendy by a lot of annoying skinny girls who are supposedly attractive and “hip” and into obscure 80s bullshit and do other people’s cocaine while smoking long cigarettes and thinking that taking photography classes at NYU makes them a fucking “artist”.
Personally I’ll take the ‘Dark Side of the Spoon’ or ‘Animositisomina’ lineup over that pussy shit any day.
Damn, voidhead. That’s most of my ex-girlfriends, right there.
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Good call.
Speaking of…
A reunion of originals I’d like to see (pending they’d put down their egos) would be Skinny Puppy containing Ohgr, Key, and Leeb, just as it all started back in Remission. Too bad Key and Leeb think the other’s an asshole.
Speaking of…
A reunion of originals I’d like to see (pending they’d put down their egos) would be Skinny Puppy containing Ohgr, Key, and Leeb, just as it all started back in Remission. Too bad Key and Leeb think the other’s an asshole.
Leeb got onstage with Puppy during the encore of one of the Mythrus tour shows.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=48rdQW9LTQI
Leeb and Key are somewhat friends, but I wouldn’t hold my breath for a full blown reunion. Now Ogre guesting on a FLA album I could handle.
When I met Ogre a long time ago he told me an amusing story about Bill giving him a small silver coffin for Christmas one year, and he went out and buried it.
Many of these reunions are just cash cows and ego boosters IMO. I’d like to hear some new shit rather than all this reunion nostalgia and mining the past for ideas, playing at safe.
It would be cool for someone new to come into the Skinny Puppy fold, or let the guys involved in the live band have some creative input on the albums. Their live drummer is very talented.
On the other hand, sometimes it can work, as I feel it did for Throbbing Gristle who just kind of picked up where they left off and are impressing me with their new material (but let’s not kid ourselves; TG is still a cash cow—what a bizarre turn of events that is!)
It would be cool for someone new to come into the Skinny Puppy fold, or let the guys involved in the live band have some creative input on the albums. Their live drummer is very talented.
what like Mark Walk, Danny Carey, Otto Von Schirach, Cyrus Rex, Dre Robinson, Saki Kaskas, Traz Damji, Wayne Static, Omar Torres, Statik, Ken Marshall all have been apart of the two new albums.
or like a new full time member? opinions vary on new puppy, but at least they are attempting some new things and not relying on reliving past glories.
afaik Justin working with them is probably happening he and cev had a great time on tour brapping.
(but let’s not kid ourselves; TG is still a cash cow—what a bizarre turn of events that is!)
They’re all cash cows. They (“professional musicians”) are trying to survive without getting a gig at wal-mart or in construction. It’s called the music BUSINESS for a reason. The end goal is to live off of your craft. Otherwise you just become a circus side-show with all the “OMG, look at him now” shit.
While some groups/bands may fool certain people that its not a business - it really still is, and they know it. I’m not saying they all start out like this - but eventually - reality sets in and the successful ones come to the terms that they are trying to live off of their “art”.
Many of these reunions are just cash cows and ego boosters IMO. I’d like to hear some new shit rather than all this reunion nostalgia and mining the past for ideas, playing at safe.
I’m not put-off by the cash cowedness or ego boost of it but the biggest problem is that most reunions are either one-off shows or short tours and the band never really gets the chance to gel. It takes a few months on the road to get tight.
And your right about the other aspect too. It’s a treat to hear band work in new material as it’s being developed. But to hear someone mimic an old recording…nothing could be more boring.