I was searching but it came up with like 15 pages
I clicked on user id’s that I didn’t know very well. Two clicks is all it took.
Thanks everybody for trying to ferret out the KC-based Pronger for me, I’m sure we’ll cross paths sooner or later.
To the question before about Invisible:
I talked about that a few times on here before, but probably much earlier on in my Prongs tenure. I was in touch with Martin Atkins and co. from 1993 or so, and “worked” at the Chicago HQ in the mid-point of the 90s. I think my last official act as an Invisible drone was to get some backstage drinks for Genesis P Orridge when he sang for Pigface and Thee Majesty.
It’s funny you mention New High in Low, that was around the time where I was actually pretty excited about what Invisible might become. All the different musical threads were coming together to create something that blended the better aspects of dub, early industrial, psycho-ambience and skewed pop music. The fact that the label even got some advertising in high-brow Wire magazine speaks volumes for how much their aesthetic was starting to hold out some promise.
But sadly the label petered out shortly after that, probably because it was becoming more of the Martin Atkins show on record and behind the scenes. The guy became like a cut-rate Bill Laswell or something (meaning that if you wanted to be on his label, you either had to deal with him having some direct hand in your record as a producer or guest player.)
And then of course there were the rip-offs and rumours of rip-offs at his hands, and there was really no good reason to stick around during all that.
Please tell me you earned or stole a Revolution 3 diploma. I’d love to see one.
Cool. Thanks for telling the story again.
You know, I always felt that Invisible was a “I’m Martin Atkins” entity. From the beginning. (I’m not trashing the guy, just finally getting to talk about this shit). I liked what was happening at the beginning of pigface and invisible. it really, in my opinion - could have picked up where the “Al J. music machine” left off prior to jesus built my hotrod stuff. martin was doing all that stuff. heck i even think that is what he was going for. singles, playing on all the shit on his label. Hell, I’ve even got the Bizarre SexTrio CD single and the Love Interest single with Chris Connelly singing Dudley Moore. I always felt his best project was Murder inc. I loved that band - still do. And I always though Martin kinda played the same shit on all of his stuff. But, to each his own.
ps - the welcome to mexico asshole tour shit is probably one of my top fav concert shirts ever.
ps - the welcome to mexico asshole tour shit is probably one of my top fav concert shirts ever.
I vaguely remember it . . . . there were pills and various drugs all down the sleeves, but I don’t recall what was on the main torso part.
Cool. Thanks for telling the story again.
You know, I always felt that Invisible was a “I’m Martin Atkins” entity. From the beginning. (I’m not trashing the guy, just finally getting to talk about this shit). I liked what was happening at the beginning of pigface and invisible. it really, in my opinion - could have picked up where the “Al J. music machine” left off prior to jesus built my hotrod stuff. martin was doing all that stuff. heck i even think that is what he was going for. singles, playing on all the shit on his label. Hell, I’ve even got the Bizarre SexTrio CD single and the Love Interest single with Chris Connelly singing Dudley Moore. I always felt his best project was Murder inc. I loved that band - still do. And I always though Martin kinda played the same shit on all of his stuff. But, to each his own.
Completely agree with the assessment of Martin just ‘playing the same shit’ or recycling similar beats for each project from PiL to…whatever he’s doing now. After time you come to realize he’s not really that strong of a drummer, though he successfully uses raw intensity as a smokescreen for lack of technique. I remember the first time I sat in on a drum check for Martin at the Metro and was just thinking “whoa, this guy’s intense! He’s a machine!”, standing in teen-aged awe of his focus and force. But there are definite diminishing returns on his limited repertoire.
And that may be the guy’s true talent - making a strong enough first impression, both on record and in person, that you tend to let shit slide until it’s too late (e.g. until you’ve signed an awful record deal with Invisible.)
BTW, I find the Electric Boogaloo reference hilarious.
That is one of my prouder moments here, I have to say.
I was trying to think of some other worthy movie sequels to rip on, but none quite “popped” like that did.
The real question here, though, is - “Breakin’ 2,” or “Wild Style”? Both are deathless cinematic gems.
Tomasz Part Two: Surf Nazis Must Die…Moreso
Tomasz Part Two: Surf Nazis Must Die…Moreso
Decline of Tomasz Civilization 2: The “Prongs” Years?
This is getting dangerously close to the “ideas for movies you actually want to see” thread. I keep trying to get out but YOU KEEP PULLING ME BACK IN!!!
[reply]BTW, I find the Electric Boogaloo reference hilarious.
That is one of my prouder moments here, I have to say.
I was trying to think of some other worthy movie sequels to rip on, but none quite “popped” like that did.
The real question here, though, is - “Breakin’ 2,” or “Wild Style”? Both are deathless cinematic gems.[/reply]
Wild Style any day of the week…the definitive hip hop movie…
Damn. I thought I knew all the hip-hop and breakin’ movies . . . Beat Street, Breakin’, Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo, Rappin’, Krush Groove . . . heck, I think I even saw Disorderlies.
I don’t remember Wild Style, though. Gonna have to look into that.
Check out this badass trailer for “Rappin’” which raps the plot of the movie for you . . .
Funny how many of these movies had Ice T in them…
Funny how many of these movies had Ice T in them…
I know. I was thinking the same. Early T is so badass. He killed in Beat Street too.
[reply]Funny how many of these movies had Ice T in them…
I know. I was thinking the same. Early T is so badass. He killed in Beat Street too.[/reply]
Yep…and Breakin 1 and 2…
You missed my tour. That was the only of real importance that occurred. Ever. Oh and a bunch of retarded comments about homosexuals and gay marriage. That too.
Damn. I thought I knew all the hip-hop and breakin’ movies . . . Beat Street, Breakin’, Breakin’ 2: Electric Boogaloo, Rappin’, Krush Groove . . . heck, I think I even saw Disorderlies.
I don’t remember Wild Style, though. Gonna have to look into that.
Check out this badass trailer for “Rappin’” which raps the plot of the movie for you . . .
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLovs3yhVI4
Is Disorderlies the one with the Fat Boys?
YES SIR!!!
Is Disorderlies the one with the Fat Boys?
Indeed
Yeah,thought so…of course they were also in Krush Groove…I always remember the light skinned guy who wore the Davey Crockett hat…I think one of those dudes died a while back…
Ah, the Fat Boys - proof positive of the new dawn in American culture in the 1980s!!!
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