I know it’s not most here’s cup of tea, I don’t care, this is seriously my pleasure. I can’t tell you what it is, maybe it’s really a man crush,(as fat tits suggests) maybe he plays shit I dig into on a subconscious level, hell maybe uses subliminals and my mind’s ear can hear it loud and clear. I don’t know, what I do know is that generally whatever this guy belts out on guitar I absolutely adore.
I have quite a bit of respect for him as a guitarist myself.
I’m listening, and it was the same tired complaints that you always have for anything you don’t like. I would imagine you had made your mind up not to like it long before the album idea was even conceived.
Although, I do doff my hat to you if you really did listen to all of it. Can’t fault you for not liking it then, it’s just an opinion…and yours at that. You’re a hard guy to please, musically. and I know how musically diverse we are that it was probably a pretty hard exercise for you to sit through all of it. and if you indeed did listen to all of it, Brownie points to you.
Let’s see. First off it has Ian Astbury on it. I like the Cult. It has Iggy Pop on it. Iggy is a star. It has Lemmy on it. It has Chris Cornell on it. It has Ozzy on it. It has Dave Grohl on it. With this in mind I was quite prepared to enjoy this album on some level, even if I do believe that most of those guys are past their used by date. I was hoping to get some enjoyment out of a reasonable mix of frontmen I either admire or have admired at some point in my youth.
Imagine my surprise then when what I heard sounded for all the world like a slightly edgier, slightly harder version of Matchbox 20 mixed with Creed mixed with sappy, soulless FM radio modern rock.
I didn’t like it all. It was everything I’d hoped it wouldn’t be. But still I pushed on and listened to the whole thing.
Twice!
Oh do tell. I would love to read what GnR you consider decent. what if anything is “pushing the musical limits” on a GnR record? It’s all just great sounding music, but none of it, by the standards that you have shown represent you, would even come close to passing your smell test.
I like enough Guns’n’Roses. Liked their cover of ‘Patience’, ‘Mr Brownstone’ is how I’d always hoped Aerosmith could/would sound like and ‘Civil War’ still manages to send shivers up my spine - even all these years later.
Just because an album doesn’t push musical boundaries and tick all the right avant garde boxes doesn’t mean I won’t listen to it? Is Prince ‘boundary pushing’? Because I listen to Prince all the time. Likewise Madonna.
your post was your normal music snob self. Shocked you posted so much really. it reads like your annoyed having to write it.
Only slightly perturbed thinking this Slash guy is a whole lot better than that album suggests.
perhaps for you it was “upfront and Honest” but it just seemed snide over all. I give Void more credit for not liking it(again not that I care). He just came right out and said I don’t like the hooks, I don’t like the melody, the vocals suck etc etc… that to me seems more upfront and honest than anything you have written.
It was bland, generic corporate rock to a tee. And from memory GnR never made bland, generic corporate rock. Why does he start now? Hell, even the new GnR was much better than that Slash album. The lyrics were generally laughable, it was massively overproduced - completely devoid of soul - and the musical arrangements were at best competent. Nothing made me think “This is working. I’m really feeling this”. I just wasn’t sold. That’s not snide or snobby. Just honest and open feedback.
Are you sold on N’Sync? Take That? No? Why? Aren’t you just being ‘snobby’ if you disregard music like that? Plenty of times I can recall threads being started and ol’ Grmpy chimes in with the obvious ‘Soundgarden sucks!’ or ‘Faith No More sucks’ or ‘this sucks’ or ‘that sucks’!
It works both ways.
It was a foregone conclusion, for me, that you wouldn’t like it and that you would post your dissatisfaction with it on the thread. I think what bothers me about it is that what you included in your post was pretty much exactly what I figured you would post.
I might say the same thing having recommended you something that was, as you’d say, ‘boundary pushing’. Something experimental and atonal. It’s almost a foregone conclusion that you’d dismiss it as sounding like a washing machine or somebody starting up their car. But I’d hope you’d at least listen to it. Which is exactly what I did.
No bullshit, I even contemplated creating a rough outline of the gripes you would have about it and see how they would match up with what you would actually post. Just from what I remember listing in my mind, you pretty much hit all of them.
That’s sounds like you are almost admitting that the album conforms to what I have said about it and you’re just waiting for me to come out and say it. On some subconcious level then, if you have made these ‘points’, do you think the album is flawed?
You must agree with me to some extent if you listened to it and thought ‘Gee, Peligro would rip this to pieces!’.
Here is really what I’m wondering, what exactly makes it predictable and stale to you?
Because the album lacks balls!!! It’s safe and generic and bland and sounds like a million other crap FM radio modern rock bands. I’d always assumed that it’s because of the turgid state of modern rock radio that we form little web community clusters like the prongs forum and discuss ‘our’ music’. Because modern radio is so horrendously shit!! And here’s ol’ Slashy boy conforming to every generic corporate marketing guy’s wet dream of how a modern rock album should sound.
Guns’n’Roses were never about ‘conforming’ and pleasing the masses with ho hum built-for-maximum-airplay crud. Which is what made them so exciting in the first place.
But what’s this new shit?!?!?!
What about Slash’s record is predictable in anyway, all of his riffs are different and catchy and are in no way the same, the way the pedal steel is with country. You get my question?
It just bored me. Plain and simple. The way I’m bored by Linkin Park and Creed and My Chemical Romance etc. It’s soulless and plastic. It’s tweaked and polished to the point where it becomes more of a product than something that will make a difference to your life.
It has nothing to say to me, on any level.
Anyway, I’m happy that you like it and hope you get alot of joy out of it. I’ve recommended you plenty of music in the past and alot of it you’ve dug which is cool.
Guess we’re just gonna have to agree to disagree on this one. Like you said, as if we didn’t see this coming.
